Any Boxer that will not take a simple test is more than likely a steroid head , what is the problem in taking the test if your opponent is happy to do so as well.
this is a strawman argument, it holds no water, and is, as all the rest of this joke, based off of NO FACTS......... you can't slander and accuse someone of something with no evidence and expect them to comply with your demands or the demands of the accuser.
if i call someone a pedophile, have no proof, and demand they take a lie detector test to prove otherwise, which too is easily compromised as well as any drug test, and they don't take the test, does that make them a pedophile? because i or someone said so??? if so, i will call you and anyone else who i dont agree with or don't like, or want to cause a problem with a pedophile, none of which would take a lie detector test out of pure self respect, and so therefor we would be surrounded by pedo-perverts...... according to your logic..
get fvcking real.........
I'm not saying it's true, what I'm saying is that's what it seems based on pascals own words.
You keep telling me it's false, and I'm asking why, and you're not saying anything, you just keep replying with "that's not true" :dunno: you're just going in circles.
just like pascal, screaming like a ***** in a argument with her man, " take the test, take the test" that really hammers in facts and the point...... speak in circles.
If anything it should be because he's 46 and still fightign successfully, not because his trainer trained a guy who tested positive 10 years ago when he wasnt even ther trainer then.
didn't know mosley tested positive, i know he was caught up in being a client of balco, but never heard of him testing positive though...... im just saying, not trying to create an argument or anything.
If anything it should be because he's 46 and still fightign successfully, not because his trainer trained a guy who tested positive 10 years ago when he wasnt even ther trainer then.
imo this isn't about whether hopkins is juicing as much as it is about taking the intimidation factor away, which i think pascal has taken the play away from nard, in that regard
If Hopkins takes the test and passes it would mentally even affect Pascal even more that he is naturally beating him at his age. Pascal is taking a page out of Hopkins book and giving him a little of what B-hop does to his opponents
Erm Pascunt already knows Hopkins isn't on roids, do you honestly beleive if he didn't he wouldn't have added this in the contract?
It doesn't look good for Bernard Hopkins saying he won't take the tests. Nobody should ever reject drug testing. I have a feeling he is hiding something and that is why Pascal is doing this so blatantly. Again, nobody should ever reject drug testing.
The number 1 p4p fighter in the world wont take a drug test. lol
the fight is already signed and it's a done deal. you don't bring up further requests after the fight is signed at a press conference of all places.
Pascals logic is retarded. His link to Hopkins to PEDs is because hopkins is trained by Nazim who currently trains Mosley and Molsey was involved in the BALCO sh!t. But nazim obviously wasn't training mosley back then and only recently started training him, even during the olympic style testing floyd demanding so again, pascal was retarded.
the press conference after this video pascal retracted, saying he never wanted to accuse of hopkins being on anything.
If anything it should be because he's 46 and still fightign successfully, not because his trainer trained a guy who tested positive 10 years ago when he wasnt even ther trainer then.
If Hopkins takes the test and passes it would mentally even affect Pascal even more that he is naturally beating him at his age. Pascal is taking a page out of Hopkins book and giving him a little of what B-hop does to his opponents
In a nutshell, he felt most of the top fighters were using and that their status prevented higher-ups from doing anything about it. Believed more fighters would speak up if they weren't afraid of being blackballed. He spent more time talking about this issue than anything else but the game is to be sold, not to be told. So when I print everything he said, you'll see ;). But again...that is definitely not the reason.
I agree with the line of thinking that says most of the guys are cheating the system somehow. But like someone else said, he didnt demand it before the fight, so Hopkins has no obligation to do any extra testing. Either way, Nard wins this one going away. Anyone want to bet on it PM me.
Pretty poor behaviour from someone whom said they respected Hopkins as a legend.
Pascal's as much of a bad loser as he accuses Nard to be.
Sells the fight I guess but still...
I'm not saying it's true, what I'm saying is that's what it seems based on pascals own words.
You keep telling me it's false, and I'm asking why, and you're not saying anything, you just keep replying with "that's not true" :dunno: you're just going in circles.
I'm really not. Just not going to divulge all on here - in fact that would be pretty silly. Like I said, that's not the reason. If you feel that it is, based on a couple youtube videos then ok. Based on my lengthy conversations with him, I feel different. And that's that.
lol I'm asking you for what his reason is and you're not telling me anything :thinking:
That doesn't make what you say true. If you don't believe me then fine. But I'm here to tell you that's just false.
that doesn't mean that isn't his reasoning either though (linking hops to mosley through naz). What you just typed is what he feels about the game in general.
Yeah, but it's not his reason. Hey look if you want to keep touting it, more power to you. I'm just telling you it's not true.
And what did he say?
In a nutshell, he felt most of the top fighters were using and that their status prevented higher-ups from doing anything about it. Believed more fighters would speak up if they weren't afraid of being blackballed. He spent more time talking about this issue than anything else but the game is to be sold, not to be told. So when I print everything he said, you'll see ;). But again...that is definitely not the reason.
That appears to be the link going by pascals words. "You are trained by Nazim who trains mosley, maybe I should ask you to take drug test"
It's quite clear.
And how do you know?
Because I spoke to him a few months ago (a couple weeks after their first bout) and he had plenty to say about it. That's how I know.
I think he does that on purpose. Part of his selling point for this fight is that he's an old guy taking on a younger fighter.
The look doesn't fit him, it is funny though
Why is it every time I see B-Hop he is wearing a sweater vest now~ now he is even dressing like an old man~
I think he does that on purpose. Part of his selling point for this fight is that he's an old guy taking on a younger fighter.
we can only go by the things pascal has said. I don't know what else to base anything off. If he has other reasonings, he hasn't expressed them. He's brought up Mosley/Nazim twice now and certainly sounds like his reasoning to me.
Even going by what he said, it still doesn't show that. Further, that's just not the reason.