when toney was at cruiserweight versus when haye was there

Larry, you should put threads like this in the history section. We need the activity and the thread will get the proper respect.

I've never been impressed with Haye at all. He's not knocking Toney out, so I think Toney wins a clear decision.

Man I'd have loved if this fight had happened ... if Toney had stuck around at cruiser for an extra year or two it may well have - if Toney had just managed to stay in shape and lay off the burgars its hard to see anybody beat him at cruiserweight ...

Toney by late stoppage. Toney beat Jirov and Jirov >>> Haye at Cruiser

Haye's not that special without his right hand, and Toney can neutralize just about any right hand and turn it against his opponent with his shoulder roll counter. Haye is not good enough to just dance around and try to outbox Toney. Mabe against bigger slower fighters. James has an underrated jab and eventhough he is flatfooted, he can rope Haye into countering his jab, so he can counter his counter. Dude was still sharp at 190ish. He would have embarrassed Adamek too.

Toney makes a fool out of Haye his defense is too good for Haye to bomb effectively as a puncher, he'd follow Toney to the ropes, miss a lot, eat shots

James Toney would kill David Haye at Cruiserweight. Haye is surely not better than Jirov, whose career was basically ruined by the beating that Toney put on him Toney was a beast at Cruisweight, which at the time was 190lbs. That was a perfect weight for him, even just at 200 he's was becoming less effective.

Haye pulls out a week before the fight citing "severe vaginal discomfort"

flomos-"floyd beats pac without that sh1t in him take the test pac" flomos-(when not talking about pac) "who cares about steroids...skills 4 skills is all that matters" chillout man..dont make this another retarded manny-floyd-steroid-ost thread..please just talk bout this matchup

Skill for skill, Toney schools the sh!t out of him easily. Come on, man.

Toney would beat Haye but hes flat footed. Any boxer with good footwork and a long stiff jab would beat Toney.

Toney could beat Roy Jones if he really puts his heart into it, no doubt you know the answer

with or without steroids? fukk the steroids man just skill for skill