andre ward's weakness ''exposed''

how bad is andre ward's chin?......

I think Ward might be hiding something. I have a good feeling about Arthur this fight, I'm expecting a KO win.

That was in 2005... Right. Much more mature fighter now, 6 years later. I can't wait until he beats AA up, then gives Froch the business.

this^^^^^^ couldn't make a better fight at 168 if you tried. battle of the two biggest sets of huevos. Glen is a strong ass smw. if he pulls it out v froch I will be AMAZED. I totally agree. I got Glenn pulling it out.

Everyone gets knocked down or wobbled, doesnt mean he has a bad chin Exactly......... I love the way people bring up fights from 6 years ago and think they "found" something.... Like the way bring up the fact Pac lost in 1976...haha

ward has a good chin, he got caught by some good shots from both miranda and kessler and stood up to them very well. on top of that he gets hit cleanly very rarely since his speed, skill and boxing IQ keeps him out of trouble most of the time. and as this video shows if someone manages to catch him with a clean shot and acctually hurt him he knws how to react on order to survive. very impressive considering that was like his 5th pro fight if im not mistaken. any fighter can get hurt, being dropped once doesnt mean someone has a glass jaw (obviously).

Yeah Kessler has been demoted to journeymen which really is really starting to hurt Calzaghe's win over him. If you beat kessler though I think that makes you definitely an top super middleweight because he's still a live fighter I guess. I can't wait for Johnson vs Froch. The winner will definitely probably be Ward's toughest fight to date because Froch seems hungrier since he got his first loss. He got lucky he was in england against Dirrell but I think he learned his lesson in that close fight to Kessler. And Johnson is ALWAYS hungry. Ward is far from a shoe in to win the tournament. I think he will but he's going to have to go through hell to do it. But after getting up from that knockdown I think he has the great to go through fire. this^^^^^^ couldn't make a better fight at 168 if you tried. battle of the two biggest sets of huevos. Glen is a strong ass smw. if he pulls it out v froch I will be AMAZED.

You wanna bet on Berto? I'm willing to put a decent chunk of change on Ortiz. If he plays his cards right, he definitely could put a beating on Berto. I think he just needs to motto one of the best boxer punchers in boxing right now(miguel Cotto). Utililize a good jab and good to the body and I think he can wear Berto down and get em outta there! if you look at my sig, you'll see I got Berto. Ripper left the site so one of those bets is no longer good. I got 75 mil on Berto and we do a 75 mil ko bonus?

I got agbeko. I think dude has the skills to pull it out. Damn, me too. Im the conductor of the king kong hype train around here. Let me guess, you got berto too? If so, pick anoter close fight this month.

I dont know if his chins all that bad. That was a pretty damn good uppercut and he ducked right into it. It could land him in trouble against Froch or Bute who throw nice uppercuts.

:lol1: years going by don't make your chin better lol i was just having this argument in the history section with some of those stuffy bastards if you're a boy and then you become a man (over time) your chin will get better years going by can make your chin stronger depending on the stage of life the fighter is in. once you hit your prime physically, it wont get any better. you'll only be taking punishment but if you arent taking a lot of punches during your career you will be able to take better punches as you mature

if ward fights his hold and hit style, he'll have a tougher than than usual against AA

I thought you said it was going to be speed? And I actually agreed with you then because I believe he's the modern day Hopkins. The only people who gave Hopkin's trouble were speed guys like prime young roy jones and Jermain Taylor, Calzaghe only made it close because he was so damn fast with those sissy slaps. I think he'll do his best work against guys who aren't speed boxers like Kessler. Hopkins trashed prime Glenn Johnson so I'D LOVE to see how Hopkins does against him to see how good that comparison is. I think Abraham might be able to chin check him though because he's patient as fukk with such a low work rate he could probably hit him when Ward leasts expect it. But I think Ward has the heart to persevere. And don't get me started on Bute. I still don't think he's even top 5 until he beats Kessler. He does have a mean uppercut though but I still don't think he special until he beats some super 6 guys. I really want Dirrell to call him out and school him. that's one thin (speed) but ward can be outboxed too from the outside and touched up. bute hasn't really proved shi t, but ward hasn't proved much more. ward's best win is vs kessler, all his othe rwins are against the type of guys bute's been fighting. and I believe kessler hasn't been teh same since calzaghe. he struggled vs perdomo for chrissake

i know you been around. it took me awhile too. this is what you do. go to vb plaza menu and deposit your dough in your bank, then start betting fools. you can make bets in nsb or go to the betting forum. whoever you bet with will tell you how to transfer money, or better yet, will send you money. lets start it up now, pick a close fight this month and tell me who you got..... who you got in agbeko-mares? I got agbeko. I think dude has the skills to pull it out.

Man all the years I been here(new user name) I still dont know how to bet... lol i know you been around. it took me awhile too. this is what you do. go to vb plaza menu and deposit your dough in your bank, then start betting fools. you can make bets in nsb or go to the betting forum. whoever you bet with will tell you how to transfer money, or better yet, will send you money. lets start it up now, pick a close fight this month and tell me who you got..... who you got in agbeko-mares?

lol...gotta love the haters looking up these old fights to try to prove useless points.

get some ebread and talk to me later. how come you got no dough? Man all the years I been here(new user name) I still dont know how to bet... lol

How you gonna take money when the only person at super middleweight with the speed your talking about is Dirrel who obviously doesn't want to fight him? He'd mean mug Bute, maybe when Dirrell's brother moves up the rank he might have a chance. The person too beat him is either Hopkins who can outdo him in what he does best, or Pascal maybe but would probably lose, or Dawson. But Ward would probably break their spirit like Pascal did to Dawson and what Hopkins did the Pascal. Thats my view on it.. nope. dont you worry about it. hows he gonna mena mug due with the best uppercut in boxing? im not convinved ward can fight from the outside. i see a couple dudes around beating ward. don't count out the road warrior either if he gets past froch, road warrior can neutralize speed

Trust me you aint going to win sh1t. get some ebread and talk to me later. how come you got no dough?

So he wants to fight the #1 and #2 p4p guys for money and he will be too big and strong for them and it's not fair. Instead he should fight super middle weight guys that you yourself say are too strong for him? How is that any better? My point is people sh!tin on floyd, manny or whoever about taking real challenges but when it come to sergio he dont have to. I to would like to see manny or floyd vs Martinez but they arent obligated to do so.