What is the obsession with Pirog Vs Martinez?

I think that Golovkin is a really good fighter. Knocked out Bute and beat some other guy in the ams, but can't remember who it was. Was it Dirrel? I believe the best solution instead of hyping up one of these guys is to have a four way tournament to see who gets a shot at Sergio if that makes the TS happy. How about an all Euro fight between Golovkin and Pirog while Angulo and Kirkland duke it out with the winners fighting each other respectively for a shot at Sergio? Still doesn't change the fact that it's a bitch move to seek out guys from smaller divisions when you are the Middleweight champ. The only time Hopkins did it was when there were no other contenders to fight that he hadn't already beat. Not the case with Sergio.

because is the best fight that can be possibly be made at 160 pounds, plus it's a unification bout. boxing fans usually want to see the best fight the best. We do? I thought we just wanted our fighters to find the most money imaginable, even if they have to fight fighters two divisions lower to do so.

the sergixcuses never end. Pirog gets beaten by UD. And all us Sergio fans thank you for supporting our hero by having his pic in your sig. http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3180/sergiomartinez.jpg

why do you care so much about how much money martinez makes though? All I'm saying is Pirog is a damn good fighter and so is Martinez. They both had the two best KO's of last year on HBO and it would be fireworks if they were to ever fight. I understand the whole idea of "building up the fight" and I'm not one to call Martinez a ducker if he doesn't IMMEDIATELY fight Pirog, but people shouldn't act dumb as to why fans want to see this fight. It's obvious why. It's logical. Sure, maybe Martinez can make a few bucks more against Peter Manfredo jr. No one is going to tell me that's a better fight though. Eventually though, Martinez and his promoter will come to the realization that there is no one else to fight but Pirog. Kirkland = not ready. Angulo = greencard, probably wouldn't want it anyway. Sturm = LOL. That doesn't leave too many guys out there - there is Lara, another high risk low reward guy, K9, Pac/Floyd = not a chance, and maybe a rematch with Kermit Cintron. Not too many options for Martinez when you break it down. Pirog is the best option any way you look at it (provided he wins saturday of course). Likely what they are doing though is feeding martinez some bum and hope that bob arum will feed them cotto/margarito at the end of the year. Trust me im the last guy who cares how much fighters make in fact I have scolded other people for their obsession with the whole Manny/Floyd cash cow arguments. Im also not saying that it's not a fight I wouldn't want to see! I think pirog vs martinez is a good match up but it's not a must fuking have like everyone seems to be exaggerating! But as it was so well put earlier in the thread Pirog is their by default not out of merit but Im attacking the people who are using pirog as a means to call martinez a ducker. As far as the money goes like I said I don't care about it but putting myself in martinez shoes. Im 35 years old, I have a very small window left, I just ran the gauntlet for the last 3 years taking on the best that they can throw at me, and I have a low rish good size reward fight in front of me. well im gonna take it! Thats all im saying! If any fighter deserves to get a gimmie it's sergio why? Because he's already proven he doesn't duck people so I see no harm in him making some easy cash thats all.

Sturm/or 168 pound fighter take your pick Martinez is a small 160lber. Sturm won't take the fight. Neither is gonna happen. Angulo/Kirkland even if they arn't likely right now I'm ok with either or both, but neither isn't realistic right now. Then pirog If I was Pirog I would not want to fight Martinez. I think he should get some bigger fights in the states first. But he wants Martinez, so he's one that can't be ruled out. Im not asking for martinez to take soft touch but at the same time he hasn't taken a soft touch in about 3 years so if he does hey he's earned it. Personally I'm not gonna slam DiBella, HBO, or Martinez if they put someone soft against him. I'm not gonna like it, or say he deserves it, but it is what it is. I'd rather see Martinez vs Softy than Saul Alvarez vs Bobby Pacquaio.

Sturm just got a big money contract from a German tv network where he will likely fight German club fighters the next few years. Figures!!!!

Some will but they are pathetic anyways. Tell me who you would like to see him face. Sturm/or 168 pound fighter take your pick Angulo/Kirkland even if they arn't likely right now Then pirog Im not asking for martinez to take soft touch but at the same time he hasn't taken a soft touch in about 3 years so if he does hey he's earned it.

Hell id rather see him fight Sturm if thats the case! At least he's proven something and fought on a big stage before and it's a unification! Sturm just got a big money contract from a German tv network where he will likely fight German club fighters the next few years.

because is the best fight that can be possibly be made at 160 pounds, plus it's a unification bout. boxing fans usually want to see the best fight the best. Well If Pirog is the best they can do then not only is there no name recognition to further Martinez career their is also no money in it either! Hell id rather see him fight Sturm if thats the case! At least he's proven something and fought on a big stage before and it's a unification!

Pirog vs Martinez is a good fight. its not the only fight I would like to see though. I would take Martinez vs... Pac/Mayweather not happening Sturm a 168lb fighter Cotto at 154 Golovkin Pirog Martinez vs Pirog is WAY better than Manfredo Jr...please dont make that fight happen, blahrg

i would liek to see it ... but people act liek its a resume defining fight for sergio. ive only seen pirog once and while it was a pretty spectacular performance that one win isnt going to convince me that hes the beast everyone acts liek he is. id like to see more of him and i would def liek hbo to showcase him. Put Pirog vs Lee on an undercard for the next Martinez fight and build up the fight like that. If Williams wants a third fight with Martinez like he says a win over Pirog would be a great start.

will go right back to the "Martinez fights russian yak farmer" jokes. Some will but they are pathetic anyways. Tell me who you would like to see him face.

i would liek to see it ... but people act liek its a resume defining fight for sergio. ive only seen pirog once and while it was a pretty spectacular performance that one win isnt going to convince me that hes the beast everyone acts liek he is. id like to see more of him and i would def liek hbo to showcase him. There is alot on him on Youtube, check it out man.

Dmitry Pirog is the real deal. He is better than anyone Martinez has fought. I like Paul Williams too, but this is the truth.

i would liek to see it ... but people act liek its a resume defining fight for sergio. ive only seen pirog once and while it was a pretty spectacular performance that one win isnt going to convince me that hes the beast everyone acts liek he is. id like to see more of him and i would def liek hbo to showcase him.

the sergixcuses never end. Who's making excuses Im just saying it's laughable that a fight with a fuking prospect is the best fans can ask for from Martinez! I know it's really cool to name drop all these obscure Boxers to all your friends that dont watch boxing and all but I follow boxing really close and Pirog is a fuking prospect. Watch the fight will get made, martinez beats him, and you will go right back to the "Martinez fights russian yak farmer" jokes.

Ok Paul Williams PFP mainstay,Pavlik the lineal Middleweight Champion who has also flirted with top 10 PFP, and Dzinzirik a longtime titlist that was touted as this highly skilled guy that was gonna give Sergio Fits! These are all guys Martinez has defeated soundly and the best you can come up with is Pirog becasue he beat some HBO hype job? Kirkland and Angulo who are both tailor made for Martinez are much much better choices and you want another obscure eastern European with one sorta quality win? Didn't Martinez just beat that very same fighter not 3 weeks ago? How many of these obsucure fighters can one message board come up with? Angulo has visa issues and turned down the fight in the past. Kirkland is not ready yet. Please tell me who you want Martinez to fight on the list of those that are willing to fight him...

Sergio is the champ at 160 and the division is weak. Angulo is a 154lb fighter who turned down a fight with Martinez and Kirkland is fresh out of jail and needs some fights before a big one like that.