While browsing thru askmen.com, I came across an article that listed the top 10 most physically demanding sports in the world, and can you believe that boxing didnt even make the list! They had mma/ufc as #1. They even had sports like soccer, rowing, swimming, and rugby making the list and not boxing.
Thoughts?
http://www.askmen.com/top_10/sports/top-10-hardest-sports_1.html
I've trained in several different martial arts and none of them came close to the kind of training I did with boxing. I've never trained MMA (mixed martial arts) though.
Grappling requires ALOT of energy. BJJ and submissions require alot of energy as well.
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No it does not!! The whole point of bjj is to use leverage, u react from what your oppenent is doing, have you ever trained in bjj before? ill admit, it does require some energy, but the whole point the gracies were trying to make is that a smaller/weaker opponent can beat a bigger/stronger opponent with leverage, with technique you do not need much strength, with bad technique you use ALOT of energy
biased opinions are showing.
just because we all like boxing better (this is a boxing site afterall) doesn't mean it takes more conditioning than MMA.
Grappling requires ALOT of energy. BJJ and submissions require alot of energy as well.
being on your back and someone on top raining punches down on you can take a lot out of you.
and still boxing is more physically exerting. u guys talk about the grappling and stuff, but that stuff is designed to end fights fast. doesnt always work but usually it does. if u look at the average time for a championship mma fight and the average time for a championship boxing fight, u will immediately notice that the boxing fight takes longer. there is just too much that says that boxing is more physically exerting.
biased opinions are showing.
just because we all like boxing better (this is a boxing site afterall) doesn't mean it takes more conditioning than MMA.
Grappling requires ALOT of energy. BJJ and submissions require alot of energy as well.
being on your back and someone on top raining punches down on you can take a lot out of you.
Every sport is draining in its own way
The difference is boxers fight every 4-6 months
Footballers play every 3-4 days
UFC fighters fight every however many months etc
Its just something you cant really compare
Why is boxing more demanding?
What is your argument?
I've trained in MMA, muay thai, and boxing years ago. I gotta say boxing is much more demanding. The training is almost always fast paced and much more explosive. Imagine what the guys at the championship level train like? I even get tired watching my trainer, who's also a pro fighter, train.. He can be considered a gatekeeper/journeyman though:
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=119782&cat=boxer
When you have been wrestling you whole life like randy it does not take alot out of you to hold your opponent against the fence if you have trained properly. You are making too broad of a generlization when you say less rounds = faster/more vigurous pace. I like mma a lot, but that is just not true.
You don't think it doesn't cause a more frantic pace when each fighter has precious little time to impress the judges? I mean when do you ever see a UFC fighter take a round off?
I would say Boxing....mma does take alot out of you but, if you get tired in mma you can take a guy down for the rest of the round and just hold him there. In boxing if you get tired you're fkng done
Says who? If you're tired in mma and take a guy down, you still have to have the strength to prevent him from turning it around mounting you or submitting you.
Ugh yes it does when losing 2 rounds means a loss! Lyoto and Coutures styles are designed to slow down the fights but they certainly expend more energy even at that slower pace because A Lyoto has to be elusive to not just punches but also kicks and take downs, and B. Coutures fighting style is super fuking demanding because he grinds out his opponents in a style that requires a tirelesss work rate and lots of physical strength. You think it's easy to keep a man pinned to the ground especially when that man has been trained to get out of that position?
When you have been wrestling you whole life like randy it does not take alot out of you to hold your opponent against the fence if you have trained properly. You are making too broad of a generlization when you say less rounds = faster/more vigurous pace. I like mma a lot, but that is just not true.
LOL. Lower amount of rounds does not = faster pace.
Go watch a Randy Couture fight or a Lyoto Machida fight. The amount of rounds has no bearing whatsoever on what pace the fighters keep.
Ugh yes it does when losing 2 rounds means a loss! Lyoto and Coutures styles are designed to slow down the fights but they certainly expend more energy even at that slower pace because A Lyoto has to be elusive to not just punches but also kicks and take downs, and B. Coutures fighting style is super fuking demanding because he grinds out his opponents in a style that requires a tirelesss work rate and lots of physical strength. You think it's easy to keep a man pinned to the ground especially when that man has been trained to get out of that position?
What they also don't realize is they only have 3 rounds they don't have feeling out rounds and they can't take a round off. They have to go 3 rounds full throtle which is one of the reasons why the pace is a hundred times faster than it is in boxing.
LOL. Lower amount of rounds does not = faster pace.
Go watch a Randy Couture fight or a Lyoto Machida fight. The amount of rounds has no bearing whatsoever on what pace the fighters keep.
Longer fights.
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Wrong!!!! Longer fights also means a slower pace! Boxers take their time and spread out their energy! In MMA you have to go all out because you have so few rounds to work with and losing just one round is a hundred times more damaging than losing one round in boxing.
Grappling is more demanding than boxing though. There is a reason why someone who has trained for a fight for weeks can get winded after the first round.
Lol at people thinkin MMA fighters get winded because they dont train properly. these are top athletes who are paid millions for each fight and most of them started out as top amateur wrestlers, competing in the olympics etc.
What they also don't realize is they only have 3 rounds they don't have feeling out rounds and they can't take a round off. They have to go 3 rounds full throtle which is one of the reasons why the pace is a hundred times faster than it is in boxing.
Grappling is more demanding than boxing though. There is a reason why someone who has trained for a fight for weeks can get winded after the first round.
Lol at people thinkin MMA fighters get winded because they dont train properly. these are top athletes who are paid millions for each fight and most of them started out as top amateur wrestlers, competing in the olympics etc.
I can agree on the grappling thing to a degree. I have seen some of the payouts for some of these guys and it was really surprising to me...it was like Lesnar I think, he made 500K for the Carwin fight and Carwin was making like 200k or less.
I always thought it was because the MMA guys pack on so much muscle that they got winded easier. The MMA guys are huge...like body builders...that has to consume a massive amount of oxygen.
Thats exactly why it's less dangerous because a quick knockout means less blows to the head overall! repeated blows over and over that don't knock a guy out do more damage in the long run than getting knocked out with one punch.
In a way that kind of makes sense........
Ugh yeah dragging a well conditioned athlete to the ground using all your bodyweight or getting taken to the ground and eating a bunch of punches while your opponent is on top of you with all his body weight is nowhere near as demanding as 3 min of felling each other oput and conservativly throwing some Punches here and there.
Dumbass!
I've seen dudes winded after 20 seconds period....beginning of the match first 3 strikes and the dude is puffing like crazy and leaning on the cage. Not all the matches go like this of course but more than a few. Just because you can make a weight, it doesn't mean your cardio is at peak performance.
How is stamina at a higher level with boxers?
Longer fights.
For every elite former ama wrestler in MMA you have just as many BJJ and guys who only started MMA a few years ago with poor stamina and still making it to the big show.
MMA is a very tough sport. So is wrestling and Muay Thai. I don't want to hate on any combat sport but the way the rules are designed in boxing it makes it the more physically demanding.
I notice a lot more guys suffering one punch KO's where the guy is out cold in MMA as opposed to boxing.
I'm no expert by any means and these are just my observations/opinions.
Thats exactly why it's less dangerous because a quick knockout means less blows to the head overall! repeated blows over and over that don't knock a guy out do more damage in the long run than getting knocked out with one punch.