Dan Rafael: "Cotto-Mayorga 200K PPV buys, could reach 250K"

I thought it would do abut 300-400k, but its not much lower than I thought. Its still a very solid payday for Cotto, he probably made 3-5 million for a tune-up, not bad at all. Cotto's purse was 1M, plus some on the PPV upside. He'd be lucky to hit 2M, just saying...

Lol there goes the "Cotto is the 3rd best PPV seller in boxing". 3rd has to be Marquez or Mosley. Even Hopkins can sell 200k PPV's and he's known as a fighter who can't really draw PPV's. So much fail in this post, where should I begin? :lol1: 150K for Marquez-Diaz II in a fight of the year redux. 100-130K for Mosley-Mora. 135K for Hopkins-Jones II. 200-250K for Cotto-Mayorga (a blatant tuneup for Margarito in the summer). Tell me which one of these is not like the others. Take your time.

The last people I'd go to for the numbers is Top Rank. However, I can see this fight topping out at 200k. Showtime did one hell of a job promoting it :rolleyes:. I'm pretty sure they'll have better luck with Pacquiao-Mosley but I'm beginning to smell bad news in the air for Bob Arum. Should be interesting. The hate never stops with you does it? :lol1: Name one HBO PPV fight in the last 2 years not involving Pacquiao or Mayweather that reached 200 K buys. Then re-read your post and tell me if you can spot what the problem is with your 'argument'. I'll wait. But yeah, Arum is in trouble with Pacquiao-Mosley (easy 1 mil, wouldn't be surprised if it topped 1.5 with the promotions), Cotto-Margarito II (first fight did 500K w/ no reality series) coming up in May-July and CBS pushing at least one of those. How ever will he manage? :sad2:

threads like this is a welcome development in boxing really. its indicative of how the sports of boxing has progressed. every bout of well known fighter is viewed like the nyse, at the end of the fight everyones waiting if the stocks are down or up. its like everyones turned like an investor or prospector. dang, boxing is at the forefront again, when will baseball/soccer/basketball/nhl/nfl follow suit. boxing is showing them the way yeahh. their fans should also start monitoring their teams sales.

Lol there goes the "Cotto is the 3rd best PPV seller in boxing". 3rd has to be Marquez or Mosley. Even Hopkins can sell 200k PPV's and he's known as a fighter who can't really draw PPV's. LOL there goes Marquez or Mosley number 3 PPV draw. Marquez Diaz 2 did like 100K or less? and Mosley? are you serious?

Lol there goes the "Cotto is the 3rd best PPV seller in boxing". 3rd has to be Marquez or Mosley. Even Hopkins can sell 200k PPV's and he's known as a fighter who can't really draw PPV's. Mosley? cmon lets be serious.

Cotto-Mosley did 400K. Cotto-Judah was the one that did 250K. Stop inflating numbers :lol1: Cotto-Judah did 255k But Mosley-Cotto did less than 400k.

Lol there goes the "Cotto is the 3rd best PPV seller in boxing". 3rd has to be Marquez or Mosley. Even Hopkins can sell 200k PPV's and he's known as a fighter who can't really draw PPV's.

The last people I'd go to for the numbers is Top Rank. However, I can see this fight topping out at 200k. Showtime did one hell of a job promoting it :rolleyes:. I'm pretty sure they'll have better luck with Pacquiao-Mosley but I'm beginning to smell bad news in the air for Bob Arum. Should be interesting.

thats ok to be fair

and you guys were hating on pac for making 700k against an even bigger nobody in Clottey. Its not that he did a high number, its the fact that lost half a million buys by fighting a nobody, by not having a "name" on the card his buy rate went down by nearly 50% thats just ****TY. And my bad on the Cotto/Mosley numbers, didn't realize they were that high.

Cotto/Shane did 250k, but I believe it was only Cotto's second fight on PPV. Cotto/Marg did 500k and Manny/Cotto did 1.25 million which is the highest of Manny's career, more than Oscar. I'm not sure if Manny/Mosley will do more but seeing as it will be on CBS (360 anyway) I think it will, but it wouldn't be because Mosley is a bigger draw (he did less than 100k with Sergio Mora) it'd be because Fight Camp 360 was available in like 120 million homes compared to the 20 million you get with 24/7. Cotto-Mosley did 400K. Cotto-Judah was the one that did 250K.

pretty good numbers i would say:boxing:

for a fight that shouldn't have been on PPV in the first place. Which fights on HBO's or Showtime's schedule would you have liked to remove and replace with Cotto-Mayorga?

I don't really care, but I guess 200-250k isn't all that bad for a fight that shouldn't have been on PPV in the first place. Can't believe 11 of you (so far) actually thought this number would be higher..... I was expecting 300-350k because I thought Mayorga would sell more, but anyone who even knows he is figured he was done and again 250,000 people just paid to watch one of Cotto's tune-ups its really not a bad number.

Who cares what Oscar has to say about this? How is Oscar relevant in this issue? Anyways 250k is a good number considering nobody really cared about this fight. I don't really care, but I guess 200-250k isn't all that bad for a fight that shouldn't have been on PPV in the first place. Can't believe 11 of you (so far) actually thought this number would be higher.....

HBO won???? If the numbers are correct, Top Rank won. HBO spent millions for the Martinez fight, Top Rank made Millions for the Cotto fight.

Cotto was never a big time PPV draw. Against Mosley they did 400K. not because he is 3rd behind Pac and FLoyd in PPV doesnt mean he is a top draw. i'd still say 200K plus buys were pretty good. Cotto/Shane did 250k, but I believe it was only Cotto's second fight on PPV. Cotto/Marg did 500k and Manny/Cotto did 1.25 million which is the highest of Manny's career, more than Oscar. I'm not sure if Manny/Mosley will do more but seeing as it will be on CBS (360 anyway) I think it will, but it wouldn't be because Mosley is a bigger draw (he did less than 100k with Sergio Mora) it'd be because Fight Camp 360 was available in like 120 million homes compared to the 20 million you get with 24/7.

pretty solid number imo ... especially considering cotto was such a favorite and mayorga has been out of the spotlight for so long.

Imagine the numbers Cotto would do if he actually fought legitimate opponents.