Do you find Wladimir Klitschko's surgical dissection of opponents boring?
Would you prefer a storming/brawling type approach like Mike Tyson?
Would you prefer Wladimir Klitschko to use more dirty tactics (e.g. hold the arms of opponents, pushing the head down) like Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali?
Is Wlad too athletic and do you prefer a more chubby physique like Larry Holmes or Joe Frazier?
What exactly is wrong with Wladimir Klitschko?
There isn't a thing surgical about him lol. He jabs, jumps to cling to his opponent with his sole intention to tire him out with his body weight, then eventually throws a right hand and KO's the guy he is fighting. He threw I think 1 or 0 body punch in his last fight and around 1000 clinches where he could have easily landed a KO shot
The round after he put Povetkin down the 3 times, there was a punch Wlad hit the guy with that was sending him to the canvas, but Wlad clinching held him up. It was hilarious.
There isn't a thing surgical about him lol. He jabs, jumps to cling to his opponent with his sole intention to tire him out with his body weight, then eventually throws a right hand and KO's the guy he is fighting. He threw I think 1 or 0 body punch in his last fight and around 1000 clinches where he could have easily landed a KO shot
Your poll sucks dick.
I admire Wladimir Klitschko as a fighter, as an athlete and as a man, but there are many things wrong with him:
* Wladimir is cautious to the point of tedium, rarely throwing a power punch unless an opponent is showing signs of fatigue, hurting or wide open.
* Wladimir spoils when an opponent manages to breach his reach advantage, holding instantly and not relenting.
* While Wladimir has faced the best opponents of his generation (barring his brother of course), he has failed to truly establish himself as a great by beating a fellow great. Now this isn't Wladimir's fault, but it's hard to truly love a fighter who has feasted on bums for years. Despite fighting in a pitifully weak heavyweight period, Wladimir has also managed to be stopped on three occasions, only avenging one of them.
I admire the technical and tactical way he fights, but I can't get excited about it. What he does makes sense, but it doesn't impress. As for the lack of quality opponents on his resume - well, he can't really change that, but it might be better for Wladimir if Vitali loses or retires in the near future so he doesn't have to split the best of a bad bunch 50/50.
This guy knows what he's taking about
His last fight was a disaster, but overall I like his fights.
They don't need to televise 1 eastern Euro vs another eastern Euro, it's always a boring fight. Just like Wlad vs Ibragimov.
I think they just split the money and laughed at people who paid for this.
Those fights didn't even look like real fights. They look like a boxing fight out of the movie Sgt. Bilko.
I would prefer Wladimir Klitschko box. He is the world heavyweight boxing champion after all, so it kind of sucks that he is always trying to molest his opponents rather than fight them.
Wlad is the 2000's version of Larry Holmes.
Both are jabbers, but I believe Holmes usually threw a higher volume of punches and clinched less. I recall a young Holmes using foot movement, feints and dodging to frustrate opponents.
You didn't watch the fight. Sam Peter was still throwing hard punches in that fight and that has nothing to do with what the guy said, he said Wlad doesn't throw hard punches in fights unless....and he stated some 'facts'.
Nope, I said he doesn't throw power punches in fights unless certain circumstances occur. The circumstances in question are common to lot of fighters, but I said Wladimir is particularly cautious. His jab is hard. Nothing to do with 'facts' either, I merely stated my point of view on Wladimir based on a lot of his fights that I have watched.
Samuel Peter could never have won that fight !
Come on boxing scene, i know you like Wlad, but that is not a convincing argument.
Haye will win within 4rds. He’ll throw very little until he spots his chance then BANG. Over.
1) I don't like Wlad personally nor could I care less if Wlad wins or loses, he's lost three times already by knockout and all three were legitimate losses. Just because I post about Haye or Wlad doesn't mean I hate or like one or the other fighter. I'm addressing the fact that this guy said Wlad doesn't throw hard punches unless.....
I don't dislike him either.
2) What does Haye have to do with anything. You're in the wrong thread.
sam peter was well shot in that second fight.
You didn't watch the fight. Sam Peter was still throwing hard punches in that fight and that has nothing to do with what the guy said, he said Wlad doesn't throw hard punches in fights unless....and he stated some 'facts'.
So what?
McCall was/is literally a crackhead and Rahman a fat journeyman. Both knocked Lewis out COLD, something that has never happened to Wladimir
I beg to differ on the McCall stoppage, but point taken on the Rahman stoppage.
And surely you don't count McCall's drug-induced nervous breakdown in the Lewis rematch as Lewis "avenging" the earlier loss! :lol1::lol1::lol1: All Lewis had to do was stand and watch McCall melt down.
Very true, but he still technically avenged the loss!
I don't want to deviate from the argument into a Lennox Lewis vs Wladimir Klitschko debate anyway. My point was merely that Wladimir has been stopped on three occasions in a weak heavyweight era, which detracts from how I view him in relation to the all-time great heavyweights. Lewis' losses to McCall and Rahman also detract from how I view him in relation to the all-time great heavyweights, but I give him a little extra credit for avenging both losses, even if he didn't have to do a whole lot to avenge his loss to McCall!
So what?
McCall was/is literally a crackhead and Rahman a fat journeyman. Both knocked Lewis out COLD, something that has never happened to Wladimir.
And surely you don't count McCall's drug-induced nervous breakdown in the Lewis rematch as Lewis "avenging" the earlier loss! :lol1::lol1::lol1: All Lewis had to do was stand and watch McCall melt down.
Brewster was as good or better than Rahman until the fight with Liakhovich destroyed him. Sanders could punch as hard as anyone. Purritty was no great shakes, I'll give you that one.Lewis was knocked out cold twice? Do you really believe this? lol
Then you didn't watch Wlad/Peter 2. That is the current Wlad and he lit up Sam Peter who punches pretty damn hard.sam peter was well shot in that second fight.
Then you didn't watch Wlad/Peter 2. That is the current Wlad and he lit up Sam Peter who punches pretty damn hard.
If you read my initial post you'll note that I didn't say he doesn't throw power punches, I said he only throws power punches when an opponent is showing signs of fatigue, hurting or is wide open (or lacking power like Eddie Chambers). With all respect to Sam Peter, he wings his punches in at times and leaves himself open to shots. Wladimir is good at taking advantage when a fighter is open. Later on in that fight with his confidence up and Peter tiring, Wladimir had it his own way entirely, but in the opening part of the fight he was cautious as usual except when Peter opened the door for him.
Wlad is the 2000's version of Larry Holmes. The people who hated Holmes style probably hate Wlad as well. Not only are their styles similar but their era's are eerily sh.tty as well.
Holmes had his toughest fights at the tail-end of a superior era, and began to dominate when all those old guys died off.
He then was KTFO by a young exciting HW. I hope WLad's story ends the same way.
As does your username.
What you call "bums" were the highest RING-rated opponents available.
Do you have any proof that this era is any worse than, say, Tyson's era?
There is no other world champ in the history of boxing with that amount of real heavyweight fights AND LESS unavenged losses than Wladimir Klitschko (and Brian Nielsen). His 2 unavenged losses are a hallmark attribute.
What you call bums were the highest RING-rated opponents.and what is your definition of a bum?
That answer refers to the current Wladimir Klitschko we have and not the Wladimir Klitschko that fought Byrd and Brewster twice. With regards to the Chambers fight, I have to accept that he threw a lot more power shots that normal, but I believe this was the case because he didn't respect the power of Chambers. Wladimir fights cautiously without exposing himself via throwing power shots because he fears taking flush punches (or Emmanuel Steward fears him taking flush punches), but Wladimir can fight with confidence against a guy like Chambers who can't really punch.
Then you didn't watch Wlad/Peter 2. That is the current Wlad and he lit up Sam Peter who punches pretty damn hard.
I beg to differ on this one. You didn't watch quite a few Wlad fights if you think he rarely throws power shots. Did you watch Wlad Brewster 1&2? What about Wlad Byrd 1&2 or Wlad Chambers? He threw power shots.
He tore Sam Peter a new one for most of both fights.
That answer refers to the current Wladimir Klitschko we have and not the Wladimir Klitschko that fought Byrd and Brewster twice. With regards to the Chambers fight, I have to accept that he threw a lot more power shots that normal, but I believe this was the case because he didn't respect the power of Chambers. Wladimir fights cautiously without exposing himself via throwing power shots because he fears taking flush punches (or Emmanuel Steward fears him taking flush punches), but Wladimir can fight with confidence against a guy like Chambers who can't really punch.
Your poll sucks dick.
I admire Wladimir Klitschko as a fighter, as an athlete and as a man, but there are many things wrong with him:
* Wladimir is cautious to the point of tedium, rarely throwing a power punch unless an opponent is showing signs of fatigue, hurting or wide open.
I beg to differ on this one. You didn't watch quite a few Wlad fights if you think he rarely throws power shots. Did you watch Wlad Brewster 1&2? What about Wlad Byrd 1&2 or Wlad Chambers? He threw power shots.
He tore Sam Peter a new one for most of both fights.