Looks like some of you are still trying to fight the fight.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_azimCSzqNnc/TL_q1fJNAWI/AAAAAAAAGZw/E-_0orys6QA/s1600/the+fail+boat.jpg
He's on something, only a blind man would fight that, I have seen that little man pacquiao pic and he is far from having 8 inch wrists, which means he aquired them much later....
Plus the tell tell sign that hes on something is that tim smith from the media is not included in the lawsuit, bob arum is a lawyer first and foremost.... He would have been all over that if it was not true, but they never even asked for a retraction at all......
Now if manny was really trying to get paid he would have included tim smith in the lawsuit , but we all know that never happened....
THOSE EMAILS EXIST, THATS WHY THEY NEVER ATTACKED TIM SMITH...OR EVEN TEDDY ATLAS!!!!
That was more damaging than anything, and everyone has conveniently pushed this little shred of evidence out of their minds for some reason....
Your dumber then dumb to believe that.. Even Floyd Sr. and Jr pushed it out of their minds huh? They talk all this sladerous crap yet with actual evidence like you say exist with the emails, they can't produce it...Why don't floyd post the emails on his website like he did the torrecampo fight.
i agree...iv'e said before i'd be particularly interested to know if his shoe size has increased or his hands have gotten bigger.
Little known fact that: Mayweather's calve measurements are only half an inch smaller than MP's.
I first noticed Pac's measurements in the Cotto fight...the only place Cotto was bigger was in the waist (and height ofcourse)
Cotto's thighs were a lot bigger too, but seriously Flomo this is to be expected. Manny is fighting at his NATURAL weight, just like Floyd. Cotto, Margs, and just about every other "big" WW out there is losing muscle to make the weight. If we measure Manny's old bicep/foreman or anywhere where he had muscle at lower weights it would be smaller.
And what I posted was relevant as BONE MINERALIZATION TAKES PLACE USING CERTAIN PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS....
There is a pic of pac on here when he was younger, dont tell me he has 8 in wrists in that pic lol...
which I truthfully stated, he got much later.
You are a moron for basing his bone structure from a picture of a malnourished kid decades ago!!! He may have far lesser lean muscles back then but i think his bone structure is quite the same or maybe lesser by tiny bit.. Body builders use HGH more than any other athlete in any sports, they use it to build more than usual lean muscles in a very short period of time and yet their bone structure doesn't gravitate far too much as when they first started lifting weight... So let's say by your argument, Manny only had an average wrist for his height of 5ft 6in and that is around 6inches.. How many HGH does Manny has to take to build that puny wrist of him to a heavyweight size of 8inches?!!!
This wasn't hard to do. I just did a simple google search on news from 2001 to 2006 for any earlier measurements than that 2006 source.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=hFc1AAAAIBAJ&sjid=iSUMAAAAIBAJ&pg=2661,26051159&dq=pacquiao+tale-of-the-tape&hl=en
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/7440/pacjmm1taleoftape.jpg
how did you find that? what search terms did you use?
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He's on something, only a blind man would fight that, I have seen that little man pacquiao pic and he is far from having 8 inch wrists, which means he aquired them much later....
Plus the tell tell sign that hes on something is that tim smith from the media is not included in the lawsuit, bob arum is a lawyer first and foremost.... He would have been all over that if it was not true, but they never even asked for a retraction at all......
Now if manny was really trying to get paid he would have included tim smith in the lawsuit , but we all know that never happened....
THOSE EMAILS EXIST, THATS WHY THEY NEVER ATTACKED TIM SMITH...OR EVEN TEDDY ATLAS!!!!
That was more damaging than anything, and everyone has conveniently pushed this little shred of evidence out of their minds for some reason....
Hey Mr body builder, you are talking about Mass Size while we are talking about bone structure here, If you take notice of every fight Manny has fought on from featherweight down, everybody around the ring specially the main announcers always took notice of Manny's extremely bigger than average calf, what they don't see is his wrist, Manny always has a bigger than average bone structure specially at his limbs like legs and arms. At lower weight he may look thin because he has lesser meat muscles then, but what caught me back then when watching Manny during his very early years is the power in his punches, this extremely high power coming from a very thin frame of a boy, he always had that one-punch power specially at the lower weight, and then he developed that 4-5 combination that made him more dangerous at the higher weight... Now i understand, Manny may have leaner muscles compared to everyone else, But his muscles is not his source of power, that's for the heavyweights, but his speed coupled with denser bone structure that yields more damages to his opponents...
The moment you didn't believe the reason that Manny requested a 30 day cut off, you were labeled a "PED expert".
thats all you talk about thats why....
Interesting read.
8" wrists are pretty eye popping, and you would think just his calves.
Honestly, world class athletes are just physical freaks and they all have something physically unique to them that's a genetic advantage for their respective sports.
Mayweather, Donaire, and Marquez are freaking lerches with loong arms for their size.
These guys are not normal.
Exactly
I remember Cus D'Amato saying something like, you know you have something special to work with when you see a teenager the size Tyson was
The change Manny's body has gone through, yet he still manages to be as fast and even more powerful, is incredible
A lot to do with genetics and how his body copes with the extra muscle, but also down to his unbelievable conditioning and dedication.
didn't say i was......just pointing out some observations. If Manny is on PED's, like i have said in the past it's most likely EPO, testosterone or HGH or a mix of the three.
Also pointing out looks are deceiving. People think Mayweather has chicken legs, yet his calf measurements are only slightly less than MP's. Again iv'e said for a while he's not as small as people think.....that doesn't mean he isn't on something. After 50+ fights, ring wars, over 30 years old and coupled with rapid movement in weight classes and has improved measurably. Is any of that incorrect?? I'm not claiming to be an expert at anything......i'm just inherently cynical and highly suspicious, and believe MP is highly suspect.
The moment you didn't believe the reason that Manny requested a 30 day cut off, you were labeled a "PED expert".
:lol1:...First it was his big ass head.. then it was that bump on his wrist.. now it's his massive fists thats pointing towards PED usage? Mannys been had hammer fists (good post No.13).. but some of you are going to find other subtle physical features.
Keep the hope alive fellas.. no way this little filipino can be this amazing without PEDs. Fukkin losers :rofl:
Hahaha. I feel pity to this flomos, i think they're so mad to pac because of what pac did to floyd's life.
didn't say i was......just pointing out some observations. If Manny is on PED's, like i have said in the past it's most likely EPO, testosterone or HGH or a mix of the three.
Also pointing out looks are deceiving. People think Mayweather has chicken legs, yet his calf measurements are only slightly less than MP's. Again iv'e said for a while he's not as small as people think.....that doesn't mean he isn't on something. After 50+ fights, ring wars, over 30 years old and coupled with rapid movement in weight classes and has improved measurably. Is any of that incorrect?? I'm not claiming to be an expert at anything......i'm just inherently cynical and highly suspicious, and believe MP is highly suspect.
yea that is incorrect, show me manny v morales or manny v marquez or barrera and compare his speed then to now
OR, there are plenty of manny shadowboxing videos, take one when he was in the lower weights and watch a current one
he's slower, and he has yet to ko anyone at 147
yet somehow you clowns think he has more power
also show me where in the lower weights he took breaks and just stood there to get pummelled before you go on about how his stamina has gotten so much better
Hahaha, flomos r so amusing, they r so desperate for trying to convince themselves that pac did all those unbelievable things because of peds. Sorry flomos just accept the truth that pac is just that naturally great.
another expert in drugs and physiology
didn't say i was......just pointing out some observations. If Manny is on PED's, like i have said in the past it's most likely EPO, testosterone or HGH or a mix of the three.
Also pointing out looks are deceiving. People think Mayweather has chicken legs, yet his calf measurements are only slightly less than MP's. Again iv'e said for a while he's not as small as people think.....that doesn't mean he isn't on something. After 50+ fights, ring wars, over 30 years old and coupled with rapid movement in weight classes and has improved measurably. Is any of that incorrect?? I'm not claiming to be an expert at anything......i'm just inherently cynical and highly suspicious, and believe MP is highly suspect.
Wow, QADASHBANYAH disappeared pretty fast once those older Pac stats were found. Maybe he's busy reading about bone mineralization since that seems to be his favorite topic.
No, he's busy spamming other threads with steroids posts after I owned him twice in this one. lol.
Wow, QADASHBANYAH disappeared pretty fast once those older Pac stats were found. Maybe he's busy reading about bone mineralization since that seems to be his favorite topic.
We've already got paralegals, travel agents, PED experts, crisis counselors, etc. etc.
Can you imagine how many diseases these experts can
"cure" if Manny wasn't in their heads so much?
They would definitely find the answer in google.
Because that's all it takes.
sarcasm.
Haha I did the exact thing after wards. My wrists are exactly 8 inches, probably much bigger than my body type.
I'm not very defined but do have a lot of muscle to me because of my fat percentage.
I also don't look my weight, people think I weigh much less than I do, always have. They always think I am about 20lbs lighter than I really am.
Pac hatred is ridiculous on here, the dude is a freak of nature, just face it. That's why he holds the weight better.
Same with me. I got huge calves, forearms, wrists ankles... I swear I am about 60lbs over weight but people think I am not that overweight. They always think I am 40 lbs lighter then I am.. Even won a prize in Universal because they were way off in guessing my weight. I can still run faster, jump higher, and do **** then most normal weight people can't do being overweight.
Interesting read.
8" wrists are pretty eye popping, and you would think just his calves.
Honestly, world class athletes are just physical freaks and they all have something physically unique to them that's a genetic advantage for their respective sports.
Mayweather, Donaire, and Marquez are freaking lerches with loong arms for their size.
These guys are not normal.
Anyone else measure there wrists after reading this? mine are smaller than I thought for my weight anyway.
Anyway very interesting article.
Haha I did the exact thing after wards. My wrists are exactly 8 inches, probably much bigger than my body type.
I'm not very defined but do have a lot of muscle to me because of my fat percentage.
I also don't look my weight, people think I weigh much less than I do, always have. They always think I am about 20lbs lighter than I really am.
Pac hatred is ridiculous on here, the dude is a freak of nature, just face it. That's why he holds the weight better.