Why Cotto(and certain other fighters) will not get into the IBHOF

you missed my point. your pointing out fighters that have yet to be inducted as proof why cotto wont. your logic is sloppy. also, Hamed did not beat champions and future HOFs like Cotto did. He came to the states, was embarrassed by Barrera, then fought one fight against a C level fighter and retired. By the time Cotto is eligible, most of the future HOFs you mentioned will have already been inducted. a lot of those fighters will retire around the time Cotto does. so they will be eligible the same time Cotto is. it depends how far takes his career though(which none of us know), and you also have to take into account other HOF possibles from the past that havent been voted in yet. Hamed beat a lot of good fighters prior to Barrera and cleaned out his division, which is something Cotto has never done. Only people that dont know the division say he beat nobody. and he really opened up the public's eye to the lower weight classes, which didnt have a lot of publicity prior. he set the stage for greats like Barrera, Marquez, Pacquiao, etc. Cotto only beat one possible HOF fighter, Mosley. and that was past Mosley's prime and was a close fight. Wright beat a more prime Mosley twice. Cotto is a good fighter, no doubt. but I would be surprised to see him get in the HOF.

You obviously dont understand what McGuigan did for the sport in Britain. He was a HUGE deal, and when he fought Catholics and Protestants would stop killing one another. he had a very big impact on boxing. also McGuigan wasnt exactly **** either. he beat Juan LaPorte, Jose Caba, and Bernard Taylor when they were top guys in the division, and also became lineal champ when he beat LONG reigning champ Eusebio Pedroza...which is something Cotto has never done(become lineal champ). Hamed did more for boxing than Cotto did, and beat a lot of quality fighters. and I do think Cotto is a possible, but so is Hamed(and others along his calibur)...theyll have to choose between the two, which lessens Cotto's chances even more. thats exactly the point. by the time Cotto is eligible, those fighters will be as well. and he will be put on the backshelf compared to those other guys, and unless there is a big lull, his time will very likely pass. you missed my point. your pointing out fighters that have yet to be inducted as proof why cotto wont. your logic is sloppy. also, Hamed did not beat champions and future HOFs like Cotto did. He came to the states, was embarrassed by Barrera, then fought one fight against a C level fighter and retired. By the time Cotto is eligible, most of the future HOFs you mentioned will have already been inducted.

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You obviously dont understand what McGuigan did for the sport in Britain. He was a HUGE deal, and when he fought Catholics and Protestants would stop killing one another. he had a very big impact on boxing. also McGuigan wasnt exactly **** either. he beat Juan LaPorte, Jose Caba, and Bernard Taylor when they were top guys in the division, and also became lineal champ when he beat LONG reigning champ Eusebio Pedroza...which is something Cotto has never done(become lineal champ). Hamed did more for boxing than Cotto did, and beat a lot of quality fighters. and I do think Cotto is a possible, but so is Hamed(and others along his calibur)...theyll have to choose between the two, which lessens Cotto's chances even more. thats exactly the point. by the time Cotto is eligible, those fighters will be as well. and he will be put on the backshelf compared to those other guys, and unless there is a big lull, his time will very likely pass. There will inevitably be a lull. And you're underestimating his reputation amongst writers. Because in boxing there is only one statistic, records, other things come into play. Like I said earlier, he was part of huge events, great fights, and has a great reputation amongst boxing people as a class act. And he's been a champ fighting great competition since like 03-04. For better or worse, these things matter.

Cotto is a lock. Dude ran through several top fighters.

If Barry "Fvcking" Mcguigan can get in then ANYBODY can after their careers are over. You obviously dont understand what McGuigan did for the sport in Britain. He was a HUGE deal, and when he fought Catholics and Protestants would stop killing one another. he had a very big impact on boxing. also McGuigan wasnt exactly **** either. he beat Juan LaPorte, Jose Caba, and Bernard Taylor when they were top guys in the division, and also became lineal champ when he beat LONG reigning champ Eusebio Pedroza...which is something Cotto has never done(become lineal champ). and if you think that Hamed is a 'possible', yet Cotto isn't, there is really something wrong with you. What exactly did Hamed do besides come to the states and show that he couldnt hang with real competition? Hamed did more for boxing than Cotto did, and beat a lot of quality fighters. and I do think Cotto is a possible, but so is Hamed(and others along his calibur)...theyll have to choose between the two, which lessens Cotto's chances even more. You have to be retired for 5 years before being considered. All except one of the fighters you mentioned do not even meet the criteria. thats exactly the point. by the time Cotto is eligible, those fighters will be as well. and he will be put on the backshelf compared to those other guys, and unless there is a big lull, his time will very likely pass.

and if you think that Hamed is a 'possible', yet Cotto isn't, there is really something wrong with you. What exactly did Hamed do besides come to the states and show that he couldnt hang with real competition?

If Barry "Fvcking" Mcguigan can get in then ANYBODY can after their careers are over.

thank god youre not allowed to give votes.

Theres been a lot of talks about so and so getting into the HOF lately. time to learn! each year, only THREE boxers get into the HOF in the 'Modern' catagory: "Last bout no earlier than 1943". Which means all present day fighters would fall into this catagory. They are voted in based on what they accomplished in the sport, and ALSO the impact they had on the sport. here are some fighters that are still yet to be inducted in the HOF(but will be eligible by the time other present day fighters are eligible): Thomas Hearns, Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather, Oscar DLH, Evander Holyfield, Felix Trinidad, Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones Jr, James Toney, Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel Marquez, Wladimir Klitschko. and Ill stop there even though I could name plenty of other guys like Camacho, Nunn, Hamed etc that are 'possibles'. AND thats not even taking into account fighters from the past that are still yet to be voted in, but could be. I can tell you right now that someone like Cotto or Martinez will not have priority and be voted in before the above. they will be passed by over and over again, and eventually new possible inductees will have started showing up as well. so, athough the IBHOF is unpredictable sometimes, I find it very unlikely a lot of guys that people are talking about will get in. You have to be retired for 5 years before being considered. All except one of the fighters you mentioned do not even meet the criteria.

I agree. But like we discussed the other day, it's unpredictable really. You would expect others to be inducted over Brian Mitchell too. But overall I agree I can't see Cotto getting inducted but he definitely has a shot considering the history of the IBHOF.

He's got a lot of fighting ahead of him so how can you make that decision now? If he comes back and beats Margs and unifies at 154 he may very well beat out some of the guys on your list. even if he does unify 154(unlikely), you really think he would have priority over the above mentioned fighters? maybe Wladimir, possibly Marquez, but thats it.

He'll get in eventually, as will all the other guys you named with the possible exception of Wladimir.

Cotto will eventually get in. It's, for better or worse, not that difficult to get into the boxing hall of fame. I agree it may take a while, but eventually there will be a lull in the classes and he will get the nod. Reasons: He's built a very good resume, but maybe more importantly, he drew big crowds, has been part of big events, was in great fights, and carried himself with class. I have zero doubt he will get in eventually.

He should at least be considered and it will be their decision if they get him in or not at the end of his career. anything is possible, yes. he will be considered. and also Cotto's career is not over. I just find it...quite unlikely.

Theres been a lot of talks about so and so getting into the HOF lately. time to learn! each year, only THREE boxers get into the HOF in the 'Modern' catagory: "Last bout no earlier than 1943". Which means all present day fighters would fall into this catagory. They are voted in based on what they accomplished in the sport, and ALSO the impact they had on the sport. here are some fighters that are still yet to be inducted in the HOF(but will be eligible by the time other present day fighters are eligible): Thomas Hearns, Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather, Oscar DLH, Evander Holyfield, Felix Trinidad, Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones Jr, James Toney, Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel Marquez, Wladimir Klitschko. and Ill stop there even though I could name plenty of other guys like Camacho, Nunn, Hamed etc that are 'possibles'. AND thats not even taking into account fighters from the past that are still yet to be voted in, but could be. I can tell you right now that someone like Cotto or Martinez will not have priority and be voted in before the above. they will be passed by over and over again, and eventually new possible inductees will have started showing up as well. so, athough the IBHOF is unpredictable sometimes, I find it very unlikely a lot of guys that people are talking about will get in. He should at least be considered and it will be their decision if they get him in or not at the end of his career.