Can we at least agree, Cotto is lucky its not 2003

Honestly, I don't see Mayorga beating Cotto at any point. Cotto has a better chin than people make it out to be. People talk about Cotto's chin like he's been laid clean out for minutes on end. He's been wobbled and he's been hurt. It's boxing. Mayorga always had wide shots that you could see coming. Cotto's best weapon is his ability to time shots and rip to the body. He'd always be able to do this with Mayorga, all day long. He'd be even less beat up mentally and he'd be in far better shape and would have less wear and tear physically. Mayorga had a style for Forrest, virtually no one else. Cotto wins a prime Vs. prime fight, in about 10 rounds.

you must have missed the part where Mayorga was almost 40, way past prime and looked like utter **** in his previous fight. and yet still gave Cotto a pretty hard night and landed through his guard with his punches(which arent as powerful as 7+years ago)...enough to mark up his face significantly. fact is that Mayorga's uppercuts and clubbing shots would penetrate Cotto's particular guard pretty badly. Compared to his other fights, Cotto took no real damage especially for a guy who's a known 'bleeder'. Mayorga did nothing besides his usual crazy man antics and putting on a show for the people, then getting KTFO routine that suggests he brings/brought anything to the table that would beat Miguel. And I thought Cotto was shot to pieces, so both guys are past their prime right? :thinking: But Cotto outclassed him, outboxed him, and hit him so hard he faked an injury and called for the ref to save him from a brutal KO? Yeah, I guess he would've beat way back when :lol1:

you must have missed the part where Mayorga was almost 40, way past prime and looked like utter **** in his previous fight. and yet still gave Cotto a pretty hard night and landed through his guard with his punches(which arent as powerful as 7+years ago)...enough to mark up his face significantly. fact is that Mayorga's uppercuts and clubbing shots would penetrate Cotto's particular guard pretty badly. hardly did he hit Cotto clean. Cotto's face marks up pretty easily and most of the marks were from his own gloves when he deflected punches. This was a much more lively and prepared Mayo than we've seen in previous fights. and again, it wasnt a struggle. people get carried away. this is the same mayorga that was behind 86-85 against Mosley 2 years ago, before he was KOed.

Mayorga beating Vernon not once but TWICE is pretty much the most inexplicable thing I've ever witnessed in Boxing. Vernon was near the top of the P4P list along with Jones and Barrera and then some crude brawler bangs on him TWICE? I think he just had his number, had that style that perfectly countered Forest. Mayorga beating Forest doesn't mean he would beat Cotto in his prime. I think the difference in skill level was pretty apparent and the only negative you can say about Miguel's performance is that maybe he wasn't aggressive enough, but aside from a few right hooks and an uppercut or two and some entertaining moments, Ricardo was beaten soundly and had the life/fighting spirit whacked out of him by a classic Cotto left hook. At no point in their respective careers does Mayorga beat Cotto. you must have missed the part where Mayorga was almost 40, way past prime and looked like utter **** in his previous fight. and yet still gave Cotto a pretty hard night and landed through his guard with his punches(which arent as powerful as 7+years ago)...enough to mark up his face significantly. fact is that Mayorga's uppercuts and clubbing shots would penetrate Cotto's particular guard pretty badly.

Can we at least agree, Cotto is lucky its not 2003. I mean he struggled with a completely shot 38 year old Mayorga, Mayorga was solid tonight but not 60% of what he was in his prime. 30 year old Mayorga completely bombs on tonights 30 year old Cotto... Right? Poll to come. He won 9 of 11 scored rounds and KOed him with a blazing left hook. thats not a struggle. Yes there were moments where it was a fight, but to say he struggled is a disgrace.

Mayorga beating Vernon not once but TWICE is pretty much the most inexplicable thing I've ever witnessed in Boxing. Vernon was near the top of the P4P list along with Jones and Barrera and then some crude brawler bangs on him TWICE? I think he just had his number, had that style that perfectly countered Forest. Mayorga beating Forest doesn't mean he would beat Cotto in his prime. I think the difference in skill level was pretty apparent and the only negative you can say about Miguel's performance is that maybe he wasn't aggressive enough, but aside from a few right hooks and an uppercut or two and some entertaining moments, Ricardo was beaten soundly and had the life/fighting spirit whacked out of him by a classic Cotto left hook. At no point in their respective careers does Mayorga beat Cotto.Agreed. Could not have said it better myself.

prime Mayorga beats prime Cotto, imo. Mayorga might have had a...different...style of boxing, but it was still effective. I certainly dont see Cotto at any point in his career being able to beat Vernon Forrest, let alone twice in a row. I think prime Mayorga is able to get around Cotto's defesive style, particularly with uppercuts(something Cotto has always been open to) and thudding shots on the side of Cottos head(which would still do plenty of damage wuth Cottos particular guard). also Mayorga's combos and power would have spelled trouble for Cotto. Mayorga beating Vernon not once but TWICE is pretty much the most inexplicable thing I've ever witnessed in Boxing. Vernon was near the top of the P4P list along with Jones and Barrera and then some crude brawler bangs on him TWICE? I think he just had his number, had that style that perfectly countered Forest. Mayorga beating Forest doesn't mean he would beat Cotto in his prime. I think the difference in skill level was pretty apparent and the only negative you can say about Miguel's performance is that maybe he wasn't aggressive enough, but aside from a few right hooks and an uppercut or two and some entertaining moments, Ricardo was beaten soundly and had the life/fighting spirit whacked out of him by a classic Cotto left hook. At no point in their respective careers does Mayorga beat Cotto.

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Prime Mayorga KOs prime Cotto in 4

? A younger Cotto STILL outclasses ANY lucky punch landing, Mayorga. I don't care how lucky he was to smash Forrest. Cotto is not Forrest. Recognize this. Let's not get all triangle theory now. Styles make fights. Nothing about a 2003 Mayorga worries me. lucky punch? He dropped Forrest more than once in the first fight, and then beat him again by decision in an immediate rematch. doesnt seem very lucky to me... Cotto has always had trouble with crude, clubbing type punchers that smack through his guard...Corley, Torres, Margarito....

No. Prime Mayorga still gets hosed by a prime Cotto. I don't like this super relaxed Cotto and thought it wasnt near the "war" that the boxingscene headline made it out to be. It was Cotto sparring with a slow and wild Mayorga and still having trouble. I completely lost interest in Cotto after the third round and found myself watching to see what Mayorga was going to do. Cotto has no killer instinct and if Margarito is game, I think he can walk Cotto down again.

prime Mayorga beats prime Cotto, imo. Mayorga might have had a...different...style of boxing, but it was still effective. I certainly dont see Cotto at any point in his career being able to beat Vernon Forrest, let alone twice in a row. I think prime Mayorga is able to get around Cotto's defesive style, particularly with uppercuts(something Cotto has always been open to) and thudding shots on the side of Cottos head(which would still do plenty of damage wuth Cottos particular guard). also Mayorga's combos and power would have spelled trouble for Cotto.