A security guard, working at the old Arsenal Stadium. Obviously he was a big Manny fan! He seems to believe the fight with Floyd isn't happening because Manny doesn't want to take any tests 7 days before the fight! Apparently it makes Manny weak he said. I asked him if he understood what random meant. He did. So I said testing up to the day of the fight doesn't necessarily mean they'll do it. Just that they might. Manny does not want to be drug tested 7 days into fight. Thats his stance. Floyd just wants him o co-operate if they show up! He said that's fair!! Ding-Ding!!
On another note, if all Pacquiao fans (no disrespect, I love watching Manny too); can confirm that Manny has indeed agreed to all the testing terms, why the big hoohaa when Floyd first asked.
Don't get upset.
Manny wanted things at the negotiating table, which could be perceived as gaining an advantage, gloves (Floyd's brittle hands), ring-size (Floyd can't run), $10million penalty per lb. over 147 (not an advantage as Floyd always in impeccable shape!!!
Floyd asks for Manny to agree to random drug testing 14 days outside the fight initially. Why did Manny really say no? There were untold excuses. Mental, Physical, Spiritual, Egotistical (Floyd not commission) etc.
Calm down.
What Floyd asked for was not a terrible thing. Think about if the shoe was on the other foot, we'd crucify Floyd for not agreeing to be randomly tested. Funny enough he agrees to be randomly tested also. But all these Boxers under Top Rank can't make Manny or Arum do sh!t.
Ben Johnson fooled the whole world in 1988 and look what happened? You can't play boxing. One shot can end your life. Yes, let's punish Floyd for being suspicious. Question his manhood and bravery. But the best way to punish Floyd is to test negative and go on to knock him out.
Hold on...
An even playing field for all please. And stop all this racial hatred. None of you guys are getting in the ring for anyone. People get hurt in the ring, you guys just get on with your lives. Replay knockouts on youtube and giggle like girls.
Ali can't wipe his a$$ anymore, but he's still the greatest right??
Sorry for the long-a$$ thread...
Peace.
What's para sa iyo? Did it come out before the Oscar fight? I only knew Manny when he fought Hoya. :D
Me too. Its a good thing we registered in 2004. I was able to get a link for download of the Hoya fight.
:)
Haters cant do anything about Pacquaio's dominance in the ring.
That's why they attack Pacquiao and the posters supporting him. True story since 03. Just in the forums fortunately.
errrrr... sorry man. you kinda lost me there.
let me rephrase my stand.
i firmly believe that floyd is scared of Pac and that the blood tests are just an excuse to avoid fighting him. I just wish that Pac would just call floyd's bluff and agree to unlimited blood testing.
There's a reason why the fight hasn't happened yet. Yes, Floyd is scared to lose, but so is Pacquiao or else he would have just said, f0ck it. I'll deal with your dirty mouth in the ring the same as Floyd just saying if you don't want to be tested, f0ck it, let's just fight. If Pac isn't afraid to lose, we should be seeing Pac vs Marquez now not the farce Mosley fight. I'm not saying Mosley is an easy fight, but I'm pretty sure deep in Pac's heart, he knows Marquez is more than capable of beating him if he's not that shot yet.
Well, if you used it as a comeback against Alibata, it was pretty lame...
Can you not read in between the lines? I'm pretty sure you would have take taken A Modest Proposal literally if you were around the time of Swift.
Satire is not meant to be taken literally. I was mocking yesir. It's not meant to be a comeback.
Dude you got issues. Ignorance being the biggest. You say you are Pinoy American? I don't believe it. You say the majority of Pac fans don't know anybody outside Pacquiao and Donaire, just be straight forward, don't beat around the bush and say what you mean. Most De La Hoya fans didn't know too much about boxing either as well as most Tyson fans, yet you are a "Filipino" that chooses to single out Filipinos. Floyd more popular than Pac, did you check google stats? You cannot mention Floyd without mentioning Pac yet pac has more hits on google. To claim you are a pac fan is just like you claiming you are filipino. Both lies.
My anecdote was satire. I don't need Google stats to know that both men have transcended the sport. But I digress.
But believe whatever canard you want, man. I don't really need to prove anything (geneaology or otherwise) to support this pointless back-and-forth.
My beef is with casual fans who think I'm wrong for criticizing fighters, not you.
Newbies? I been around here much longer than you buddy so has chups but he only became a pacquiao fan because of "para sa yo"
i wasn't referring to anyone in this forum but i agree chups is a fan of pac the singer more than the fighter:D
Everybody knows the A-side Meth Pac is taking disappears after the fight. It's a magical PED.
LOL, it magically disappear right after PAC dish out the beating....so true
Testing hasn't been an issue since they agreed on it last summer. If Floyd can't agree to the 7 day blood testing, blood testing after the fight and urine testing up untill the fight then he doesn't want it.
IMO, Floyd was about to fight him in the fall of 2010 but decided to take more time off and now with all the legal problems it complicated things.
All this drug testing talk is just a smoke screen by Mayweather fans to fight for him online since he refuses to do it in the ring.
that's why they're called casual fans because they're more a fan of personalities than the sports. their newbies and so their knowledge is limited. their is nothing wrong with that as it happens to every kind of sports. what's wrong is you expecting a lot from them. it just so happened that you followed boxing ahead of them. for sure there are some areas where they have the knowledge and you don't. do you want them to insult you as well for your lack of knowledge?
and it's not like casual fans are exclusive to pac followers. it's very common to every major star not only to boxing but for every sports. whether you like it or not they are a welcome addition to the sports because if you're a true boxing fan you would want this sport to grow. you don't need to feel embarassed for them. you should feel embarassed for yourself instead for having that $hitty self-righteous attitude.
Newbies? I been around here much longer than you buddy so has chups but he only became a pacquiao fan because of "para sa yo"
I find you can't talk sensibly to casual Pacquiao fans who maybe know one other boxer named Nonito Donaire (maybe).
As a Filipino-American, I cringe whenever I hear casual Pacquiao fans bash on Mayweather to no end (not that he doesn't deserve it more often than not, but Pacquiao is far from sacrosanct in terms of the negotiations).
that's why they're called casual fans because they're more a fan of personalities than the sports. their newbies and so their knowledge is limited. their is nothing wrong with that as it happens to every kind of sports. what's wrong is you expecting a lot from them. it just so happened that you followed boxing ahead of them. for sure there are some areas where they have the knowledge and you don't. do you want them to insult you as well for your lack of knowledge?
and it's not like casual fans are exclusive to pac followers. it's very common to every major star not only to boxing but for every sports. whether you like it or not they are a welcome addition to the sports because if you're a true boxing fan you would want this sport to grow. you don't need to feel embarassed for them. you should feel embarassed for yourself instead for having that $hitty self-righteous attitude.
Dude you got issues. Ignorance being the biggest. You say you are Pinoy American? I don't believe it. You say the majority of Pac fans don't know anybody outside Pacquiao and Donaire, just be straight forward, don't beat around the bush and say what you mean. Most De La Hoya fans didn't know too much about boxing either as well as most Tyson fans, yet you are a "Filipino" that chooses to single out Filipinos. Floyd more popular than Pac, did you check google stats? You cannot mention Floyd without mentioning Pac yet pac has more hits on google. To claim you are a pac fan is just like you claiming you are filipino. Both lies.
Save your breath, ogag yan...
It's called satire......
Dude you got issues. Ignorance being the biggest. You say you are Pinoy American? I don't believe it. You say the majority of Pac fans don't know anybody outside Pacquiao and Donaire, just be straight forward, don't beat around the bush and say what you mean. Most De La Hoya fans didn't know too much about boxing either as well as most Tyson fans, yet you are a "Filipino" that chooses to single out Filipinos. Floyd more popular than Pac, did you check google stats? You cannot mention Floyd without mentioning Pac yet pac has more hits on google. To claim you are a pac fan is just like you claiming you are filipino. Both lies.
No disrespect bro, but using yesir, who couldn't even spell his handle right as your reference? That guy has no credibility whatsoever, and out of all the 99 things he says, 100 of them are false or made up...
It's called satire......
If you could answer me this than I'll agree with you. How is Manny going to pass the test knowing that he's going to be tested OSDT right after the fight?
I can't tell if you're joking or not. I would refer you to the infamous thread by yesir, but it seems to have been deleted. Here's a copy so you understand the reference:
Topic Title: Floyd is def bigger than Pac even in Asian
my boy and i were out at the club tonight and these chics from norway and japan came up to hollla at us. there are here for the disney program that grants them access to work in the states for 1 year(i live in orlando.)
the japanese chic is all over me eventhough i want the norwegian chic, who is all over my boy. but after a while of messing with the japanese chic(who im going to fukk in the next couple days,) i ask her..."do you know who Manny pacquaio is?" she says "NO" so i say "what about Floyd Mayweather" she says, "YES" pactards owned
floyd sales more PPV's, live gate and it means hes more well known around the world than Pac.
No disrespect bro, but using yesir, who couldn't even spell his handle right as your reference? That guy has no credibility whatsoever, and out of all the 99 things he says, 100 of them are false or made up...
Do you mean Asia? You gotta be immaculate here, before you can own someone...
I can't tell if you're joking or not. I would refer you to the infamous thread by yesir, but it seems to have been deleted. Here's a copy so you understand the reference:
Topic Title: Floyd is def bigger than Pac even in Asian
my boy and i were out at the club tonight and these chics from norway and japan came up to hollla at us. there are here for the disney program that grants them access to work in the states for 1 year(i live in orlando.)
the japanese chic is all over me eventhough i want the norwegian chic, who is all over my boy. but after a while of messing with the japanese chic(who im going to fukk in the next couple days,) i ask her..."do you know who Manny pacquaio is?" she says "NO" so i say "what about Floyd Mayweather" she says, "YES" pactards owned
floyd sales more PPV's, live gate and it means hes more well known around the world than Pac.
That true boxing fans aren't fawning sycophants to their favorite fighter(s).
But I believe that a good percentage (certainly not all) of the Pacquiao fans only know Pacquiao (and to a lesser extent, Donaire).
I take issue with those who think he can do no wrong and attack me because I sometimes disagree with what he does.
That's an interesting story though.
I was actually in a club one time, and this Japanese chick knew Floyd but not Pacquiao. Which proves my point that Floyd is actually more popular in Asian. Pactards owned.
Do you mean Asia? You gotta be immaculate here, before you can own someone...
the 10 mill per pound was crazy...and asking for random testing was crazy as well...but Manny refusing the tests were crazier....don't know why he declined but it dam sure wasn't a good look for him in my book....still think he's clean...just wish he'd prove me right though....I think they BOTH dont want it...the public has been trying to FORCE this fight for years.to no avail....how can PRIZE fighters turn down such a huge prize?!? :ugh:
For the umpteenth time, BUMP! http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=427145
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