These gaye fans are so like their hero, they say all this stupid **** because they know it's unlikely Haye will ever have the balls to fight Wlad. If the fight gets signed they're going to be crapping their pants at the prospect of all their clownish predictions being exposed, their credibility is going to be destroyed.
lol........:bottle::bottle::bottle:
Yes because Wlad's resume is absolutely blinding! The fact that he has never fought a world class fighter in 50+ fights tells you everything you need to know about his resume and the heavyweight division during his reign. Saying that wlad beating all the best contenders as justification to your argument makes you a nut-hugger not the fact that you think he is gonna win. I will never slam anyone that thinks wlad is gonna win, he is the favourite. But you guys act like wlad has this awesome resume, Haye has been in the heavyweight division for 2 years, in that time he has fought a titlist, his mandatory and the european champion as a voluntary which anyone knows was just a wise financial fight, you can't knock him for that he never once tried to build up audley as some sort of challenge, he said what would happen, it is not his fault people bought the hype.
It is not Haye's or Wlad's fault that they don't have a better resume, it is the competition at the time, but your trying to compare someone who has 50 fights to someone who barely has more than 20, most of which were fought at cruiserweight, I don't think the best guys that wlad has beaten at heavyweight are much better than the best guys that Haye beat at cruiserweight...thats my opinion. Either way I am not using any of the bull crap above to justify my pick for the fight...styles make fights and I think Haye's style is bad for wlad, he is fast, he punches hard and he comes in at a lot of angles...for those reasons I think he will destroy wlad, because he has never proven in my eyes he can deal with someone like haye, if he does beat him I will hold my hands up like a fair sport, and say Wlad is now the real deal, and he has beaten a world class fighter. There is still question marks over his heart and chin for me.
Best Klitschko/Haye post I've ever read.
These gaye fans are so like their hero, they say all this stupid **** because they know it's unlikely Haye will ever have the balls to fight Wlad. If the fight gets signed they're going to be crapping their pants at the prospect of all their clownish predictions being exposed, their credibility is going to be destroyed.
Anyone thinking Haye troubles Wlad. Watch Ruiz-Haye. Ruiz jabbed and hit Haye at will, and he has mediocre power compared to Wlad and zero defense.
No doubt that Vlad has a far better Jab than Ruiz but name someone that has actually looked good against him
there arent many
he is tricky fighter
and I think Haye underestimated him
anyone that thinks Haye is not going to be in the best shape and mentally ready for this fight is crazy
If its not in the first 4 rounds, forget about it.
Not necessarily this fight is not gonna be action packed or physically gruelling...for some strange reason people think it will be, Haye will be out of punching range a lot and wlad will be pawing...people think Wlad is gonna ram his jab into haye's face like everyone else...this is a crazy line of thought, he will find it difficult to find haye, a) because haye will often be in a position to counter back, b) Wlad is cautious at the best of times c) Haye is far more elusive and agile than anything Wlad has been in the ring with, he has probably sparred fighters like that but those sparring partners don't hit like a hammer.
He could knock him out in any round.
Hilarious...a guy getting credit for wobbling a crippled late 30's fighter who hasnt knocked anyone out since 2006...only Haye fans. Valuev was a shell of the fraud he used to be. But seriously, watch Haye's fights, theyre ridiculous what he gets away with. Watch when he fights Haye, 45 seconds left in round 1, Haye hits Thompson and has him against the ropes, thompsons gloves hit the ground and he is down...the time keepers start the 10 count, the ref lets it go on however. Haye doesnt have the stamina to challenge a Klitschko, a young Wlad...maybe, maybe, but Haye has been outlasted by 40 year olds in the ring. His only chance is one perfect punch.
Who else wobbled Valeuv? Anybody in boxing says your chin is the last thing to go as well if your past your prime. But hey troll you think the K bros are the best HWs ever keep self owning yourself by believing that. Haye seems to land that perfect punch all the time too ,he must be the luckist fighter ever.
Yes because Wlad's resume is absolutely blinding! The fact that he has never fought a world class fighter in 50+ fights tells you everything you need to know about his resume and the heavyweight division during his reign. Saying that wlad beating all the best contenders as justification to your argument makes you a nut-hugger not the fact that you think he is gonna win. I will never slam anyone that thinks wlad is gonna win, he is the favourite. But you guys act like wlad has this awesome resume, Haye has been in the heavyweight division for 2 years, in that time he has fought a titlist, his mandatory and the european champion as a voluntary which anyone knows was just a wise financial fight, you can't knock him for that he never once tried to build up audley as some sort of challenge, he said what would happen, it is not his fault people bought the hype.
It is not Haye's or Wlad's fault that they don't have a better resume, it is the competition at the time, but your trying to compare someone who has 50 fights to someone who barely has more than 20, most of which were fought at cruiserweight, I don't think the best guys that wlad has beaten at heavyweight are much better than the best guys that Haye beat at cruiserweight...thats my opinion. Either way I am not using any of the bull crap above to justify my pick for the fight...styles make fights and I think Haye's style is bad for wlad, he is fast, he punches hard and he comes in at a lot of angles...for those reasons I think he will destroy wlad, because he has never proven in my eyes he can deal with someone like haye, if he does beat him I will hold my hands up like a fair sport, and say Wlad is now the real deal, and he has beaten a world class fighter. There is still question marks over his heart and chin for me.
good post............
80% chance wlad dec/tko/ko's haye ---20% chance haye tko/ko's wlad. personaly i would like wlad to win for the sheer fact that haye is a dopey unclassy fighter that everytime he opens his mouth embarasses himself, from talking about "knocking klitchkos out" then pulling out, to his "more one sided than a gang rape" about harrison. of course its gonna be more one sided than a gang rape david, your fighting audley harrison. grow some balls and fight a decent haevyweight.
Saying Haye will lose to Wladimir doesn't make you a Klit hugger. Most of the boxing world believes Haye will get knocked out, and that's not Wlad fans speaking, it's just using logic based on Haye's non-willingness to sign a contract and his level of opposition.
Good talk tho man.
Yes because Wlad's resume is absolutely blinding! The fact that he has never fought a world class fighter in 50+ fights tells you everything you need to know about his resume and the heavyweight division during his reign. Saying that wlad beating all the best contenders as justification to your argument makes you a nut-hugger not the fact that you think he is gonna win. I will never slam anyone that thinks wlad is gonna win, he is the favourite. But you guys act like wlad has this awesome resume, Haye has been in the heavyweight division for 2 years, in that time he has fought a titlist, his mandatory and the european champion as a voluntary which anyone knows was just a wise financial fight, you can't knock him for that he never once tried to build up audley as some sort of challenge, he said what would happen, it is not his fault people bought the hype.
It is not Haye's or Wlad's fault that they don't have a better resume, it is the competition at the time, but your trying to compare someone who has 50 fights to someone who barely has more than 20, most of which were fought at cruiserweight, I don't think the best guys that wlad has beaten at heavyweight are much better than the best guys that Haye beat at cruiserweight...thats my opinion. Either way I am not using any of the bull crap above to justify my pick for the fight...styles make fights and I think Haye's style is bad for wlad, he is fast, he punches hard and he comes in at a lot of angles...for those reasons I think he will destroy wlad, because he has never proven in my eyes he can deal with someone like haye, if he does beat him I will hold my hands up like a fair sport, and say Wlad is now the real deal, and he has beaten a world class fighter. There is still question marks over his heart and chin for me.
Its a typical response from a Klit nuthugger who tries discredit Haye's punching power even though he wobbled Valeuv.
Hilarious...a guy getting credit for wobbling a crippled late 30's fighter who hasnt knocked anyone out since 2006...only Haye fans. Valuev was a shell of the fraud he used to be. But seriously, watch Haye's fights, theyre ridiculous what he gets away with. Watch when he fights Haye, 45 seconds left in round 1, Haye hits Thompson and has him against the ropes, thompsons gloves hit the ground and he is down...the time keepers start the 10 count, the ref lets it go on however. Haye doesnt have the stamina to challenge a Klitschko, a young Wlad...maybe, maybe, but Haye has been outlasted by 40 year olds in the ring. His only chance is one perfect punch.
so your expecting him to not throw a single punch until the 3rd?
good luck with that, your clearly a smart man(sarcasm)
Well, I won't get into insults because you're not proving your point there, but you have your ideas and I have mine. Good luck betting on the fight, I would do it if you're that confident.
Based on Hayes performance against the great Audley Harrison you're picking him to beat the #1 heavyweight in the world. Just making that clear.
so your expecting him to not throw a single punch until the 3rd?
good luck with that, your clearly a smart man(sarcasm)
ok, who are these undefeated contenders?
his choice of opponents could have been better, no doubt there.
he is still undefeated as a heavyweight, so how has that ruined him?
Maybe you should judge if he is good or not as a heavyweight once he has either fought a klitschko or retired.
I will consider that for sure, if he does beat Wlad he will change a lot of people's minds including my own, not that he cares how I feel about him as a fighter.
oh i get it, and that's why im picking him over wlad
styles make fights, and i dont know what wlad your expecting, probabley an all guns blazing wlad, or maybe wlad with heart(HA!).....that'd be good
or counter punching wlad, yea, that'd work great
Based on Hayes performance against the great Audley Harrison you're picking him to beat the #1 heavyweight in the world. Just making that clear.
If I thought it was I wouldn't post it. Haye is awesome at cruiserweight...I can't continue that sentence at heavyweight because look at his resume. He was fun to watch at cruiser, but his current choice of opponents have just ruined him.
ok, who are these undefeated contenders?
his choice of opponents could have been better, no doubt there.
he is still undefeated as a heavyweight, so how has that ruined him?
Maybe you should judge if he is good or not as a heavyweight once he has either fought a klitschko or retired.
His past performances are a good indication of how he fights, or do you not get that?
oh i get it, and that's why im picking him over wlad
styles make fights, and i dont know what wlad your expecting, probabley an all guns blazing wlad, or maybe wlad with heart(HA!).....that'd be good
or counter punching wlad, yea, that'd work great(no sarcasm, too bad he doesn't counterpunch)
pah ha ha ha that last paragraph is the flaw in yours and every other klit huggers argument. You have very little actual boxing knowledge, thus why you can't differentiate between Haye and an average contender...total muppet.
Saying Haye will lose to Wladimir doesn't make you a Klit hugger. Most of the boxing world believes Haye will get knocked out, and that's not Wlad fans speaking, it's just using logic based on Haye's non-willingness to sign a contract and his level of opposition.
Good talk tho man.
actually, it was well documented that haye was out of shape prior to the ruiz fight
you remember all those threads "haye public workrout", and all those comments "haye is looking chubby/fat/big etc"
no? course you dont, if you dont want to remember something bad enough, chances are you'll forget
He weighed in at 222. 5 pounds more than Valuev. He was not out of shape. He did have to lose more weight than normal.
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