Delahoya, Trinidad, Mosley, Mayorga, Cotto, Margarito, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Forrest? I guess if you want throw in Vargas or Berto or Williams. Who do you think could do it? It might sound weird but I think Trinidad would be the only one with a shot in my opinion. What say you
There is nobody on that list that could beat a prime welterweight that is Tommy Hearns. The ones that would come close because of size would be Vernon Forrest and Paul Williams. Think about it. There is no way any of those fighters can outbox Tommy plus has the Chin to take his pound for pound right hand. Tommy's prime losses came from fighters who had the courage to stand there and fight him. Prime example lets just use the Ray leonard and Hagler losses. Ray is probaly one of the best purest technical boxers that ever laced the gloves and he could not outbox Tommy. So half way in the fight he changes game plan and started to bang with him and eventually stopped him late in the fight. Because of Ray's courage he suffered a detached retina that had him sit down for 5 years. The Hagler fight once again, Hagler knew he could not stand there and try to box with Tommy so what happen? You have a 3 round war with Tommy being stopped in the 3rd but Hagler received a large gash on his forehead from Tommy's right hand in the first round. Later on in the fight the referee thought about stopping the fight because the gash was so bad. i'm just saying to beat him you got to b ready to go through it, and I don't see a De La Hoya,or a Mayweather or a Trinidad beating him. And Mosley has a problem with tall boxers. I just don't see anybody really on that list that can beat him.
From the names on the poll I'd say a PRIME Vernon Forrest (the one who demolished Shane). He has the size and ferocity to match Hearns at 147.
agreed, if anyone stands a chance its vernon but to be honest i see him going to sleep aswell.
hearns was a monster at 147, one thing ppl overlook is he had a great chin at that weight/point in his career in addition to his sick physicl tools and amazing skills.
robinson, leonard, griffin and kid gavilan are the only ppl i think have a decent chance of beating him. and i think ray was hella lucky to get away with that win, hearns would beat him atleast 4/5 times.
Maybe Vernon...Floyd has a chance but I can't see how he'd win even if he's a better boxer than Hearns...he'd have to be on his bike ALL night...
Pacquiao is too small and his style isn't disciplined enough to be careful...
The rest would surely lose...Cotto gets stopped, Williams gets KOed,
Mayorga? :lol1:
Can we please stop talking as if the De La Hoya Vs. Mayweather fight was close, because it clearly was not. In regards to Hearns, no doubt a great offensive fighter. Tommy brought the heat from round 1 and even great fighters could not survive his onslaught. Would Tommy slaughter most on this list, yes, but who on this list could take advantage of Tommy's mistakes? There were flaws in his game that could be exploited. Who could do that?
De La Hoya has a excellent jab, left hook, good hand speed, but lacked mental and physical stamina. Hearns wins, TKO
Trinidad is interesting because of his combination punching and power in both hands, but his lateral and head movement was not good. Could he survive Hearns Jab and follow-up right hand is questionable? Maybe, but Tito would definitely have to get to establish himself early. You would have to favor Tommy in this one. Hearns knockout mid rounds.
Mosley - Some people on here have given Shane a chance, but I do not see any. Shane history of eating jabs is not a good precursor. Mosley vs Forrest killed Shane's chances in my mind. Hearns knockout early.
Forrest was special and very underrated. Vernon definitely had the skill set and right hand to put Tommy on his a$$. And to me 147 was Vernon's best weight. I would pay to see this match up. Also, Vernon does not have to get on the inside to hurt Tommy. Unfortunately for Vernon, that goes both ways. If I had to bet, I would take Hearns by decision.
Cotto - No chance
Mayorga - Was he a WW. I assume this fight would take place at 154 lbs. Good chin, very awkward, gets knocked out exposing his chin trying to be macho.
Margarito - excellent inside pressure fighter with a good chin. The question is can Margarito walk through enough jabs and rights hands to get inside. I cannot see it, but it is possible. This one favors a Hearns decision.
Mayweather - I think it is a joke when people post Floyd would lose 10 out of 10 to Tommy. Floyd's game is to adjust and take away a opponents strengths. I definitely see this fight going to decision. I also know Tommy better get out to a big lead or knock Floyd out early. I never under estimate skill. And skill-wise, Floyd is superior. Hearns would be the betting favorite, so I would take the underdog in this one. Floyd by decision.
Pacquiao - Manny has good in and out movement, but I fear his lack of defense against the ropes would be his undoing. Plus, Tommy fought big(6'1"). He did not make himself small. Tommy Hearns is not a good match up for most WW, but the height difference in this fight is too much.
Williams - I do not think people have talked about this match up much, but I think it could be interesting. Obviously, Hearns is more technically gifted boxer but Williams always comes forward with a lot of punches. This would be a different fight Tommy in that he is fighting someone that can match his length. The safe money would be on a Hearns knockout. I will take that bet.
I own a Thomas Hearns collection like many of you I am sure, but no one was unbeatable. I think some on this list could compete with Tommy, but it would have been tough. He was a elite fighter.
Floyd? Hmm, doubt it, Tommy's boxing skills were insane, even when he was hurt.
But Floyd definitely has a better chance than Forrest. Remember, V.Forrest got taken out by a Mayorga right hand, and lost in a rematch too. I can only imagine what hearns would do to him
I have to disagree. A tall jabber (Oscar) was pretty accurate with his jab against Floyd and Floyd couldn't take control until Oscar did his signature late round fade. Hearns is taller than Oscar, was an even more consistent jabber and was fundamentally a lot better IMO. Mayweather has absolutely no way to get inside of Hearns nor the firepower to bang him out late (ie Leonard) Forrest almost matches Hearns in height and is pretty powerful himself. I think the Mayorga fight had more to do with him being arkward than anything else. He would definitely lose to Hearns but he would have moments and would do better than the rest IMO.
so because i presented an argument, unlike you, it's haha all of a sudden huh? that's the real haha--i've always said floyd would beat hearns--check out my older posts--same argument i used here---now, you can believe what you want, but i know hearns style and people keep brining up srl, which is so dumb when comparing him to floyd because ray leanord is nowhere near floyd in terms of styles--different styles--srl had more pop to his punches but not better defense, and timing than floyd---floyd's counterpunching isn't just textbook counterpunching, it's a more modern type of style that hearns never faced--i didn't use n'dou to compare to hearns--hell, i could have very well used tony pep rather than n'dou but pep's style is nowhere near hearns either---how can your little dumbass arguement about fantasy fights be taken as anymore than repeated nonsense-
what would you call this fight? what would you call this thread--why not take your little ***** argument and use them against the threadstarter you fukking dork-lol----people on here kill me with their logic---it's so easy for me to argue against people on here--you would think that after all of these years being apart of this forum, i would have a person who could potentially present at least a decent argument against me---it has yet to happen-lol--
kudos to you though for making this easy for me once again--:fing26:
your first post was so ridiculous as are your other arguments. I don't argue with wack jobs. Here you are going on about how terrible the srl-Floyd comparisons are when you just used the n'dou fight as a barometer for what would happen in Floyd vs hearns.
Reality is floyd has fought no one at 147 that has any relation to hearns whatsoever. Srl, benetiz and so on and so forth are legitimate topics for discussion as they are world class hof type boxers that hearns faced in their prime. You have your opinion-fine but your reasoning is flimsy, biased, and transparent. Why argue with that when your agenda shines through so
clearly?
I'd rather laugh about it.
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I've been here long enough to know what boxingscene consists of, bro.
It still comes as a shock some of the abserd comments.
And the Floyd 'fans' and Pacquaio 'fans' seem worse than ever at the moment.
Trust, I know, I know. Hopefully they watch more of Hearns.
he's not a WW but he fought a lot of the guys on the list so i'm throwin him out there.
i'd say Winky would have the chin and the style and physical strength to go the distance with hearns at 54
and lose by a good and sturdy margin
Interesting, but he doesn't have the style or power to beat Hearns. I'd want to see it though.
he's not a WW but he fought a lot of the guys on the list so i'm throwin him out there.
i'd say Winky would have the chin and the style and physical strength to go the distance with hearns at 54
and lose by a good and sturdy margin
Welcome to Boxingscene :lol1:
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I've been here long enough to know what boxingscene consists of, bro.
It still comes as a shock some of the abserd comments.
And the Floyd 'fans' and Pacquaio 'fans' seem worse than ever at the moment.
De La hoya has a great chance if he boxes like he did the first 8 rounds against tito.
Trinidad would be a war and i Trinidad has the punch to KO hearns which i think Hearns gets him 1st.
Mosley has a good chin and if its the Mosley from the 1st De la hoya fight then its a Competitive fight with Hearns Decision.
Pacquiao against hearns would be a great fight but Hearns might be a little to tall for Pac to hit the head and Hearns throws an excellent jab so pac would be the underdog but you never could say never with Pacs speed but i'd still favor hearns.
you shouldnt be stunned, theyre the two most popular boxers around right now.
people get caught up in the hype. which is fine. hype makes boxing more fun.
it makes fans delusional sometimes though
Your being too fair to them lol
This is black and white though.
You HAVE to be a real novice to say the things that have been said and some of the comments are genuinely stunning.
I'm stunned Floyd and Manny have so many votes.
They are two of the least likely on that list to beat Tommy Hearns.
you shouldnt be stunned, theyre the two most popular boxers around right now.
people get caught up in the hype. which is fine. hype makes boxing more fun.
it makes fans delusional sometimes though
No way Floyd would beat Hearns by a pot shot. Hearns was so much bigger, stronger with great jab and know how to box.
if Floyd couldnt stop JMM who wasnt even a welterweight and so much smaller and slower,what makes you Flomos think will beat Hearns? Floyd would do what he did against JMM?
Hearns will throw jabs and pressure Floyd. Foyds activity wouldnt be enough to beat Hearns.
Trinidad in his prime had a chance. a punchers chance.