if poverty and hunger make the best fighters, why is it that.......

True indeed. I'd follow Rings rankings before anyone elses Ruben homie. But my whole point is that Larry was making it seem as though there's no merit in looking at BoxRec, when I find that site to be rather important to us Boxing fans. I dont consider that site to be some sort of "Boxing for dummies" like I see a few people treat it as. It is a tool as far as I see it. I agree, I don't follow the boxrec ranking real serious but the even if the names are mixed up to my liking the important names are generally there above the riff raff so I don't think it is that terrible. I would certainly follow their ranks over the sanctioning bodies for no other reason than at least their rankings don't exclude the other champions from the other organizations. Besides it is just one way to rank fighters no reason to get twisted about it, no one else uses a computer formula like that so it is sort of informative and they are consistent.

Poverty or hunger only helps if that is your drive in life to get out by any means necessary, that generally means leaving that area as quickly as possible to seek better opportunities. Generally once that sort really make it they are the ones that fall off quickly once they get the silk sheets, unless they are just naturally driven. A naturally driven person can occur in any environment though

I think the ring rankings are pretty good, for the most part, boxingscene ones aswell but theres always gonna be some inconsistencies, no? True indeed. I'd follow Rings rankings before anyone elses Ruben homie. But my whole point is that Larry was making it seem as though there's no merit in looking at BoxRec, when I find that site to be rather important to us Boxing fans. I dont consider that site to be some sort of "Boxing for dummies" like I see a few people treat it as. It is a tool as far as I see it.

its not that poverty and hunger makes good fighters...its simply desire. most the time the ones that have nothing and have to dedicate their lives to boxing have the most desire. but like someone else mentioned, MAB and also the Klitschko brothers came from well off families I believe, and of course still did very well. you dont HAVE to be poor and hungry to be successful. also something to take into consideration is that drive often depends on context. if where you live is much ****tier than almost every area around you, you will be malcontent with your situation and have more desire.

Well controlled anger is the best tool for a boxer.

poverty stricken people use sports to pull themselves out of the ghetto... just cause you got a gold chain and a nice whip doesn't mean you are living above the poverty line.

So is everybody elses rankings DD. Silver Champs, Gold Champs, Diamond Champs, Copper Champs. Champs in recess, Emeritus Champs, Champs in waiting. True Champs, fake Champs, virtual Champs, catch-weight Champs. I feel what you sayin, but do you see where I'm coming from? I think the ring rankings are pretty good, for the most part, boxingscene ones aswell but theres always gonna be some inconsistencies, no?

Straight up poverty isn't the ideal conditions for making fighters, usually places with poverty and a relatively close and visible middle or upper class does, much like the USA and Mexico, this also explains why there isn't a huge amount of fighters coming from poverty ridden countries in Africa, the countries that have produced the best from there are the most built up ones like Nigeria, Ghana and South Africa, but fighters for the most part come from poverty or hardship. Well thats just my theory.

Cos boxrec rankings are shiit So is everybody elses rankings DD. Silver Champs, Gold Champs, Diamond Champs, Copper Champs. Champs in recess, Emeritus Champs, Champs in waiting. True Champs, fake Champs, virtual Champs, catch-weight Champs. I feel what you sayin, but do you see where I'm coming from?

Most boxers take up boxing at a young age without ever thinking about making a living out of it. The poor are around/see a lot more violence than the better off, so there will be a lot more youngsters from a poorer background drawn to boxing.

Cos boxrec rankings are shiit

p.s stop using boxrec as your source for top ranked fighters Why not Larry? The sanctioning bodies(WBC, IBO, IBF, WBO, WBA and 100 more)aint worth a damn, Ring Mag aint worth a hot fukk(only slightly better than the Sanct. Bods IMO).

p.s stop using boxrec as your source for top ranked fighters

the US has nine top pound for pound fighters in the top 25 pound for pound on boxrec. Isn't the USA supposed to be the most well off country in the world?. Aren't our ghetto's supposed to be like candyland in comparison to other countries?. Kelly Pavlik didnt seems to come from a good American background and hes top 25. Is this myth bull****? pavlik didnt come from a wealthy family..he's from the slums ..MOST top fighters come from hardships and chose boxing as a way out.anyone with a real education usually wouldnt choose to get punched in the face for a living