So arum admitted he lies,cheats and manipulates boxers,boxing and its fans

understand history first you call them africans, but they were moors, the moors came from what ethnic gene pool?? If you cant answer it then stop showing yoru ignorance, the moors and the african americans are one in the same.... But they are not hamitic. excuse my ignorance can you please specify the tribe where the first man dodged a punch? everyone else alive is just frauds. I'm sure its whatever tribe the mayweather clan is from.

Currently there are only x2 undefeated welterweight CHAMPIONS in the world....that would be berto and mayweather. Both still undefeated. what about SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION ANDRE WARD? IF I am not mistaken, hes undefeated right??? PROFESSIONAL RECORD? Jr welterweight Tim Bradley, undefeated right? Hell people give devon hell, but hes a damn good fighter as well, and lost only to tim bradley.Prior to bradley he was also undefeated. Look at those records. I am pretty sure you knew this anyway, so if you need more fighters do your own research son. Most of the boxers back in the day took boxing as a means to get out of bad economic conditions.Many blacks still do this, but not at the same rate. You have black athletes signing contracts making more than a 100 milion dollars!! FOOTBALL, AND BASKETBALL ARE SIMPLY MORE LUCRATIVE NOW, EVERYONE KNOWS THIS. LOOK AT THE TOP TEAMS IN THE NBA, AND TELL ME THE NATIONALITY OF THE STARTERS LOL. BLACKS FOLLOW THE MONEY, I AM NOT ASHAMED TO ADMIT THIS. THE KEN NORTONS ETC OF YESTERDAY ARE NOW IN THE NFL AND PLAYING BASKET BALL. Look at kids like big homey Lebron James, awesome athletes with tons of endurance. But look at what they get paid in these other sports. Look at the starting five of the celtics.... Look at the starting five of the lakers!!! lol on average you will see mostly black athletes making millions..... I dont need excuses, because I call it like it is. Boxing would not be anywhere as big as it is, if it wasnt for AFRICAN AMERICANS. NUMBERS DONT LIE, HIGHEST GROSSING FIGHTS, MEMORABLE FIGHTERS ETC. HIGHEST PAY PERVIEW GATES ETC. now I know you will probably say well mexicans and whites have contributed too... And thats true, but take away the sugar ray robinsons, the holyfields, the tysons, Ali holmes, ray leonard, these people were stars. If the boxing world didnt have the klitschos right now no one wold cry.... So say what you will, but to me you make about as much sense as that chick with all them damn tatoos in yoru avatar. I dont really get caught up in this black/white thing, because in all honesty its all about nationality, and not where a person lives...lol Like take lennox lewis for example. You see a brit, I see a descendant of a certain tribe from what you know as africa, and no we are not hamites... If you can figure it out you will understand. :lol1::lol1::lol1: you're killing me today!!!!!!! :luvbed: tell me more!

all them africans in sicily taught those italian guys too!

Its the evasive boxing style that now nearly every race employs. Prior to blacks being allowed to fight white men and other races would get in their and basically try to attempt manslaughter with every punch..lol When african american (hebrews) were allowed to fight we were even called cowardly because we would evasively dodge punches, slip punches, fire off combos and take as little damage as possible, Now while you can say what you want, the facts are there, the further back you go the more you see retards taking punishment, which floyd keeps trying to tell you simpletons is not cool. This is BOXING, THE ART OF HITTING WITHOUT GETTING HIT!!! I dont know how long you have been watching the sport of boxing "not club fighting", or how old you are, but I do know if you seek you will find what I just stated to be true. FACTS: "At that time, black boxers were allowed to fight for every title except the heavyweight, because of Jack Johnson. Between the time Johnson lost the title in 1915, and Joe Louis won it in 1937, there were only white champions, and nobody would promote a fight between them and a black challenger. " YOU KNOW WHY THEY DIDNT PROMOTE IT??? BECAUSE JUST AS IT IS TODAY, THERE ARE POLITICS IN BOXING. THEY DIDNT WANT THAT TITLE TAKEN FROM THE WHITE FIGHTERS BECAUSE OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN STYLE. JOE LOUIS CHANGED THAT AS EVERYONE LOVED JOE LOUIS..... THEY HATED JACK JOHNSON, THERE WAS EVEN A RUMOR THAT JACK JOHNSON TOOK A DIVE when he fought that cuban, supposedly after he had been knocked out, Joe louis turns over and shields his eyes from the sun...lol hardly a man that is knocked out. from the time of louis LATE 30'S 1937 I think, to the 40's 50's, 60's 70's 80's 90's african americans dominated the heavyweight division son... You can say what you will, but look at where most inner city youth are right now basketball/football, and who dominates these sports???? Come on man, If you aint go blacks on your team in basketball you aint making the playoffs. In football, if your wide outs, and running backs are white then you aint making the playoffs. Thats why I laugh when I see people talking about THE KLITSCHOS LOL!!! WHY DO YOU THINK KLITSCHO FANS HAVE TO DEFEND THEM SO HARD?? BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE IN AN ERA WHERE THEY ARE FIGHTING BUMS LOL!! CAN YOU EVEN NAME 6 AFRICAN AMERICAN HEAVYWEIGHTS WITHOUT USING GOOGLE??? LOL, NOT TOP TEN, BUT JUST NAME SIX WITHOUT USING GOOGLE, AND YOU WILL SEE THE BETTER ATHLETES ARE INTO OTHER SPORTS NOW. what about non hw's? What's the excuse there?

Bob Arum and Oscar De La Hoya made a ton of money during their eight years together (1992-2000). But once De La Hoya, the former Olympic gold medalist and world champion in six different weight classes, mounted a successful lawsuit against Arum a decade ago to start his own Golden Boy Promotions, their relationship turned toxic. “A dummy,” Arum called De La Hoya during a visit to Fort Lauderdale this week to promote the March 12 title bout between Miguel Cotto and Ricardo Mayorga. Now, it seems De La Hoya’s business relationship with Floyd Mayweather Jr. has a lot to do with why the boxing world has yet to see him match up with Manny Pacquiao, Arum’s top client and a champion at eight different weight classes. It also has led to a series of critical Twitter missives from De La Hoya toward Arum, the Top Rank, Inc., chairman. In one of them, issued in December, De La Hoya cites “all these dinosaurs” and says Arum “is 90 years old.” This week in Fort Lauderdale, Arum fired back at his former protege. “They’ve got no background in boxing,” Arum, actually 79, said Tuesday of the HBO matchmakers Golden Boy Promotions advises. “They rely on Oscar, who’s a dummy. Oscar is one of the stupidest guys I’ve ever met. I’m just saying what it is. The guy is really not smart. Forget just ‘not smart.’ He’s not just even average. “I remember when we were bringing him up, we’d have to write the whole script for him. Then you give him the script and he’s great, as long as you keep him on the script. To have an original thought in his head …” Arum, a Harvard-educated lawyer and boxing Hall of Fame member, shook his head as the rest of his dinner party dissolved into laughter Tuesday night at Morton’s Steakhouse in Fort Lauderdale. Someone commented that De La Hoya’s Golden Boy image certainly made him popular during his prime. For instance, De La Hoya generated a record $700 million in per-per-view sales during his career, and a 7-foot-tall statue of him stands outside the Staples Center in Los Angeles. “You think that just happened?” Arum said. “I hired women to throw brassieres. Hispanic women, we got them crazy. Once it started, it self-perpetuate. They would come with signs: ‘Marry me, Oscar.’ I had him fight this guy,a French guy who couldn’t fight, Charpentier, one of Sulaiman’s mandatories. We did it in the Sun Bowl in El Paso . “It was a horrible fight but it was great television. They went into the stands with all these women with the signs. There must have been 40,000 to 50,000 people for that fight, and at least half the people were women. That never happened.” And after a decade of vitriol between Arum and the Golden Boy, it’s as if their highly profitable period together never happened either. AFTER READING ALL THIS I WONDER WHO THE REAL DUMMY IS? OSCAR OR BOB FOR ADMITTING IN WORLD NEWS THAT HE LIES, CHEATS, AND MANIPULATES EVERYTHING IN BOXING! BOB ARUM YOU ARE THE IDIOT! You sound exactly like the old saying, that"Ignorance can be cured, but stupidity is FOREVER" What Arum just described is exactly what goes on to promote clients and fights...EXACTLY. All that BOOM-TIY-AY. Without it Oscar, and many others wouldn't have been known half as well as they are. You are one of those who look for the "nit" and pick away at it until it swells up and takes over. A jealous, malicious and envious guy. Actually just like a Jew hater, inexplicable and without reason. And you're using that as "evidence" of lying, cheating etc.etc......you are not only stupid, but crazy, I regret to say. Arum is the BEST Promoter in the busiess BAR NONE, and he has jsut given us a littleartial description of how it's done.....making reputations I mean. And I remember reading about that fight years ago, probably when it happened.

"Wise men never argue with fools, because people from a distance can't tell who is who. " nah, that's easy... just look for these sure shot signs: popped collars hat worn crookedly dollar bills protruding from hats, or any part of clothing pouty lips oompa loompa tans tight jeans

Its the evasive boxing style that now nearly every race employs. Prior to blacks being allowed to fight white men and other races would get in their and basically try to attempt manslaughter with every punch..lol When african american (hebrews) were allowed to fight we were even called cowardly because we would evasively dodge punches, slip punches, fire off combos and take as little damage as possible, Now while you can say what you want, the facts are there, the further back you go the more you see retards taking punishment, which floyd keeps trying to tell you simpletons is not cool. This is BOXING, THE ART OF HITTING WITHOUT GETTING HIT!!! I dont know how long you have been watching the sport of boxing "not club fighting", or how old you are, but I do know if you seek you will find what I just stated to be true. FACTS: "At that time, black boxers were allowed to fight for every title except the heavyweight, because of Jack Johnson. Between the time Johnson lost the title in 1915, and Joe Louis won it in 1937, there were only white champions, and nobody would promote a fight between them and a black challenger. " YOU KNOW WHY THEY DIDNT PROMOTE IT??? BECAUSE JUST AS IT IS TODAY, THERE ARE POLITICS IN BOXING. THEY DIDNT WANT THAT TITLE TAKEN FROM THE WHITE FIGHTERS BECAUSE OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN STYLE. JOE LOUIS CHANGED THAT AS EVERYONE LOVED JOE LOUIS..... THEY HATED JACK JOHNSON, THERE WAS EVEN A RUMOR THAT JACK JOHNSON TOOK A DIVE when he fought that cuban, supposedly after he had been knocked out, Joe louis turns over and shields his eyes from the sun...lol hardly a man that is knocked out. from the time of louis LATE 30'S 1937 I think, to the 40's 50's, 60's 70's 80's 90's african americans dominated the heavyweight division son... You can say what you will, but look at where most inner city youth are right now basketball/football, and who dominates these sports???? Come on man, If you aint go blacks on your team in basketball you aint making the playoffs. In football, if your wide outs, and running backs are white then you aint making the playoffs. Thats why I laugh when I see people talking about THE KLITSCHOS LOL!!! WHY DO YOU THINK KLITSCHO FANS HAVE TO DEFEND THEM SO HARD?? BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE IN AN ERA WHERE THEY ARE FIGHTING BUMS LOL!! CAN YOU EVEN NAME 6 AFRICAN AMERICAN HEAVYWEIGHTS WITHOUT USING GOOGLE??? LOL, NOT TOP TEN, BUT JUST NAME SIX WITHOUT USING GOOGLE, AND YOU WILL SEE THE BETTER ATHLETES ARE INTO OTHER SPORTS NOW. he was questioning the other guy's sig about "the quintessential style of african american boxing". according to you, it is about evasive boxing, check the gifs on his sig again... do you see any evasive boxing at all? i mean fck! the opponents weren't even fcking throwing shots for them to evade... http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii71/felipeatwar/Boxing%20GIF/Executioner4.gif http://i45.tinypic.com/2nin1og.jpg i'm looking forward to more of your rants about the klits or how the nfl/nba/nambla/etc are causing the african american's success in the heavyweight division to decline while we're talking about "the quintessential style of african american boxing" btw.

Look at my comment to understand JOKER. the guy I was speaking to couldn't mount your type of argument his cop out was it's just throwing combos as all ATG black boxers have still, race has nothing to do with this "slick" style black/African American part of the term is generic this was all about fucking with that guy

Look at my comment to understand JOKER. the guy I was speaking to couldn't mount your type of argument his cop out was it's just throwing combos as all ATG black boxers have still, race has nothing to do with this "slick" style black/African American part of term is generic this was all about fucking with that guy

1st of all this is not an African American thread, and second I don't know what the hell your talking about at this point. I answered your question, so you take it however you want. :laugh: we are talking about your definition of African American boxing one step at a time here 1 your sig shows 2 fighters landing a combination 2 your sig says they are showcasing quintessential African American boxing 3 thus you are saying landing combos is quintessential African American boxing 4 landing combos is landing a sequence of at least 2 punches 5 so you think anyone who does this is showcasing quintessential African American boxing so...if Marquez throws a combination, is Marquez showcasing quintessential African American boxing?

He didn't really need to admit it because everyone knew this anyways.

Your statement is contingent upon the fact of how Mexican fans perceive their fighters styles, and how it relates to their cultural legacy within the sport. I know that the 5 men I mentioned earlier, are all of African American descent. They were considered excellent "combination" punchers, and are rated by most boxing exports as 5 of the top 10 greatest fighters in the last 80 years. Floyd Mayweather and Benard Hopkins by their skill set and own accomplishments in the sport, quintessentially represent the style displayed by the men mention beforehand. so..whenever one of these "black/African-American style" threads pops up, by your own definition stated here, all those threads are referencing are...fighters that throw combinations...right?

Marquez is irrelevant to the statement I made in my signature. Your challenging my signature quote and clips, and what it represents. Tell me why YOU think the clips I have in my sig dispute the statement I made about African American boxing, i.e. it's boxers... :laugh::laugh: didn't dispute shit, asked you a question anybody landing a combo is the quintessential __ style of boxing? ie, if Marquez lands a combo, it's "quintessentially Mexican boxing?"

What do these boxers have in common? What and who are these boxers considered as by most boxing experts to cover the sport in the last 80 years? Sugar Ray Robinson Muhammad Ali Henry Armstrong Jack Johnson Sugar Ray Leonard what's it called when Marquez lands a combination?

Your in no position to decide what's pertinent to this conversation or not. Answer my question, and I will rebut all your questions with one answer and end this silly ass debate. I'm waiting... wrong what's it called when Marquez lands a combination?

You still talking? Ok, what do the two fighters in my sig have in common with 5 out of the top 10 greatest fighters in the last 80 years? that is not pertinent to this conversation now then, what's it called when Marquez lands a combination?

Khan is Pakistani and reps the UK what's it called when he lands a combination? ^^^ AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!! keep this sh!t going....

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m594/jadnat2k/Boxing/DavidHayeKOAudleyHarrison.gif ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ what you call this? Haye is a black Englishman quintessential style of English-American boxing?

http://i39.tinypic.com/rjlfzs.jpg ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ the quintessential style of Mexican boxing? thought that was being tough in brawling exchanges MrWestGrand where you at? clarify please

are you trying to tell us white people cant land more than a 2 punch combo? thats racist. What about when sergio martinez lands a 4 punch combo, is he using the quentisential afrifcan-americanstyle of boxing? good question Martinez combo=the quintessential style of Argentine boxing :joker: