Is Buster Douglas KO Mike Tyson boxing's biggest upset ever?

yes. Tyson was on the top of the boxing world not just undisputed Champion but the most popular since Muhammad Ali. He was a beast, fastest heavyweight probably ever, and a one punch knock out artist. The fight was supposed to be for a show.

no. calzaghe vs lacy was the biggest upset because lacy was the next tyson and calzaghe was just some skinny dude who was trained by a midget.

Yeah, probably. But Clay v Liston was a massive upset as well...it gets forgotten because of the rematch and Ali's career.

Absolutely.

Chief theres no point debating with that Jimmy guy hes seriously special. :lol1: He's making his point respectfully so I'll entertain him Ruben my homie. I think his point is thechnology/size based, but there's no statement of ring intangibles that I see so far. I dont think Wlad's jab is anywhere near as purposeful as Joe's. Vitali......there may be a case there. Neither are as fast as Joe, and I dont think either has the toughness of Joe. Neither can cut the ring off like Joe. And Vitali trying to measure Joe would not work IMO(Joe would break his ribs if he were to try. And neither one had the reach of Primo. So I'm left to believe that while it wouldn't be a walk in the park for Joe, he could very well pull out a win over either one. As long as no name calling gets done debates like this are fun to me. :banana:

Leon Spinks over Ali was a huge upset

Chief theres no point debating with that Jimmy guy hes seriously special.

More of a stretch to compare a Carnera to A klitschko..wouldn't you say. & how do the KLITSCHKO'S not compare to LOUIS in skills when they are stronger...have better jabs..bigger punch...better D..sorry but i'm not buying that. The myth is that the KLITSCHKO'S only have size aS a strength when nothing could be further from the truth... if they didn't have skillset to go along with it..they'd be just another Tye Fields.. Primo Carnera OR Nicolai Valuev. Yea it's a little bit of a stretch to compare Primo to Vitali, but not Wlad. Primo moved pretty well for a man his size, and beat Sharkey and Godfrey(Both great fighters). Not the best HW champ, but one of the physical stature of both K Bros nonetheless. Primo's chin = Wlad's chin as far as I'm conserned. I dont agree that they have a bigger punch than Louis. Louis could knock you out, without setting up a punch, I haven't seen the K Bros do such. Just because they're bigger, and technology is more advanced doesnt mean they are better fighters IMO.

I believe it was, but we should have seen the signs it was coming. Tyson had a ton of personal problems, was getting beat in sparring and King seperated him from all the team that made him. Still everybody figured Tyson would just get another early knockout over Douglas in spite of that.

I guess you can't overlook that time as you had politics involved so it was something of a global warfare. Germany vs the US. Joe LOUIS is considered by many to be the best heavyweight of alltime to this day & was considered invincible at the time. Schmelling smashed him up real nice but Louis waxed him in the rematch..very similar to how Rahman & Lewis played out. I personally think Louis is of the Russell & Chamberlain syndrome... he was one of the first on the scene..dominated but would NOT have fared the same in modern times.. He'd have been great like Russell & Chamberlain would have but NOT nearly as formidable.. his body composition was that of a cruiserweight & he didn't nearly have the same comp that was available in modern times... that's just the way I SEE it. How would he fare against 6 and a half feet of Klitschko with major advantages in size and just as much as skill...... I think he could've held his own. Joe Louis vs. Primo Carnera. I think it's a bit of a stretch to say either K Bros, had the type of skills that Joe had.

It made the front page of my local paper. Headline said real life Rocky K.O. Tyson.

yes, it is. not meaning to make excuses, but you could tell Tyson was highly unprepared for the fight. dropped in sparring, had dumped Rooney, and was messing around with the Japanese the whole time. his corner was so incompetent in that fight. what were they using as endswell? a plastic bag with ice in it? Douglas in general was a better fighter than portrayed by many, he just lacked focus. excellent jab. dropped a prospect twice in one round with it.

Why i voted maybe i dont know,got a little confused i guess.Yes it was the biggest upset in the sport imo

I'm struggling to think of a bigger upset in sporting history tbh. I hear you because when it comes to team sports..there's more individuals involved & it's more a team element...anyone can lose at any given time. Probably if one were to find such an upset it would have to be in an NCAA tournament where it's do or die..one gamr where an inferior opponent can be matched up against a powerhouse. Or in the Olympics.... like when the USA team beat that bad USSR team in hockey or ahow about Rocky vs Drago who had all the adavantages coming off a killing of Apollo Creed & Rocky goes to his backyard & serves him. Doesn't get any bigger than those odds. ;) That Louis vs. Schmeling I is equal to if not greater(I cant call it as I wasn't alive at the time, but I do know the significance. And have read and watched the impact told by those who lived during it).

Son...not talking so much to you as to the peeps who brought into that whack conspirancy theory as if Mike deserved the knockout somehow. Hold your horses. You're a Mike Tyson fan & you saw the fight as it actually happened. Just pointed it out the fact that you mentioned the long count & how Don King rolled with that..shoot Mike was there..he'd be the first to tell anyone he wasn't the better man that night & got beat fair & square... kapish. Oh fa sho. I thought since you quoted me it aimed directly at me, my fault homie. We on the square now bruh. I agree he wasn't the better man that night. The Mike that dispatched Spinks in 90 seconds would've gotten a different result than the Mike from 1990. It's sad to me, because he coulda been the greatest HW of this era, but he sold himself short everytime you turned around. Me pissed me off like how Floyd is pissin me off now. All the potential in the world to be seriously mentioned with the ATG's but not dedicating themselves to "Greatness". Hamed was another one. :nonono:

I'm struggling to think of a bigger upset in sporting history tbh.

Kirby;10148734']Maybe. I consider Foreman over Moorer a bigger upset, but that's just me. Yeah who thought a 45 year old George Foreman would become heavyweight champion? But Douglas vs Tyson and Clay vs Liston were much bigger upsets imo.

I heard Tyson spent more time fooling around with Japanese women than training for the fight, and it cost him in the end. Furthermore, Douglas had just lost his mother prior to the fight, nothing was going to stop Buster that night. What a story that was! Absolutely. That night had a feel in the air bruh. I lie to you not.

I was 12 at the time and one of my friends pissed me off because he saved all of the newspaper headlines from the next day lol. I was playing for my school basketball team and they announced it on the speakers. It was shocking and I'll never forget that. I was a big Tyson fan in those days. Me too bruh. You couldnt've paid me to believe Iron Mike Tyson could lose. :lol1:

That long count is NOT Douglas' FAULT. He went by what the referee's count was. If the count was quicker..he would've got up quicker. The way Don KING TRIED to spin things when Mike was getting his a$$ handed to him on a platter was borderline criminal. Mike did show heart that night coming up with that punch & if that would've been ruled a KO it would've covered up everything that was wrong with him. People would've bought the fact that Mike could show up at 50% & still KTFO any time he wanted to. Buster was the better fighter that night & justice prevailed as he earned the knockout of Tyson & was the better man that night... end of story! Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Slick. :omfg::omfg::omfg: Nobody said the count was Buster's fault, where the heel did you see that at? :dunno: I simply stated that even as a 13 year old kid, I saw that the count was long(I havent watched that fight since THAT night, and wont watch it ever again. I saw all I needed to see of that fight 21 years ago bruh). Mike deserved to lose that night and he did. he did not prepare properly for that fight, and had all the wrong people around him at the time. Mind you I'm lookin back on it as I saw it 21 years ago. The end of story comment was unnecessary. Whatever Justice you feel needed to be exacted(it seems to me)is something that you're gonna have to work out internally bruh.