1) He beat the biggest world champion in history
2) He has the highest knockout percentage in the division
3) He was undisputed cruiserweight champion before dominating this division
4) He beat John Ruiz who was ducked by both Klitschko's
5) He's only been beaten ONCE by a WORLD CHAMPION (unlike Wlademere)
Bonus) He's the most popular fighter in the division
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im a fan of haye,but no way is he no 1 at heavy,hes had barely any fights compared to wlad has at heavy,he only has 1 title,he hasnt fought the top guys out there yet,he hasnt fought the best possible guy yet tbh,his opponents are rated worse than they should be ,but still,neither were special,his performances are more watchable and style more enjoyable than klits,his performances are better than people make out,but could all have been a little better still.
hes a long way off no 1 spot.
you have to beat wlad for the proper no 1 spot,and need to beat vitali atleast to be considered for it,beating both is the only proper way to be undisputed no 1.
It's not that Haye hasn't fought Wlademere. It's that Wlademere hasn't fought Haye.
In case you forgot, my fellow knowledgeable boxing fan, Wlademere opted for 14-fight master Dereck Chisora instead of Haye, after Haye agreed to everything Wlademere wanted.
You love making things up don't you? Wlad opted to fight both Chisora in April and Haye in July. But Haye pulled out of their fight.
If he's not then how come all of his fights are on PPV and all of the Klitschko's fights are free?
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Due to signing with Sky PPV, Haye gets between 500k to 1 million max viewers per fight. Due to sticking with terrestrial TV, the Klitschkos get between 15 million and 20 million viewers per fight. That's more than 20 x more viewers who watch the Klitschkos' fights than Haye's fights.
In the US, almost all of the Klitschkos' title fights have been shown on one of the channels, and more than 20 have been shown on HBO. Only a couple of Haye's fights have been shown on any US channel, and none of them have been on HBO.
In terms of live gates, the Klitschkos have several times sold out stadiums of 50k fans. Haye's maximum live gate so far was less than 20k.
This is a lame attempt to paint David Haye in a favourable light this guy is the biggest fraud that the heavyweight division has seen for along time. He is an enetertaining fighter but he knows his limitations. David Haye is the PR champion
Did you not read the part where I said he beat John Ruiz (and retired him, might I add)?
Ruiz was ducked by both Klitschko's.
You obviously fancy yourself as a comedian. Only problem is you're not really that funny.
Perhaps he suffers from the same mental illness you have?
Why is it that when some one criticises the klitschko brothers you smear them saying they have a mental illnes? Because they are jews we are not allowed to criticise them?
1) He beat the biggest world champion in history
2) He has the highest knockout percentage in the division
3) He was undisputed cruiserweight champion before dominating this division
4) He beat John Ruiz who was ducked by both Klitschko's
5) He's only been beaten ONCE by a WORLD CHAMPION (unlike Wlademere)
Bonus) He's the most popular fighter in the division
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1. So did Evander Holyfield, regardless of what the judges said. So, that's not the biggest nail to hang your hat on.
2. Lol. Fine.
3. Has nothing to do with the Heavyweight division. Truthfully, it doesn't.
4. Sure. That's not true, but sure.
5. Yeah, and it was at Cruiserweight. So, once again, has nothing to do with his Heavyweight campaign. If Haye fought his whole career at Heavyweight, those numbers could easily be different.
BONUS. No, he's not.
Step up your trolling bro. Haye accomplished against Valuev the same that a 47 years old Holyfield did, ATG stuff right there :rofl:
So a 47 year old Holyfield was man enough to fight Valuev but Wlademere wasn't?
Interesting..
chagaev and holyfield beat valuev more convinsingly than chicken haye who ran all night. lowest number of punches landed in a heavyweight title fight ever lol. he's also the first boxer to be voted in the worst heavyweight title fight of the year two years running after his 'fight' with harrison.
klitschko brothers have the highest ko % ratio in heavyweight history
And I'm sure you remember the part where Olympic medalist and #1 ranked Povetkin backed out of the fight with Wlad a month out, so to satisfy his mandatory obligation he had to fight #2 ranked Sam Peter.
Notice that Povetkin is absolutely jumping at the chance to fight David Haye, but completely ducked Wladimir Klitschko.
Why?
Because the fight with Haye is completely winnable for him. The fight with Wladimir was not.
Lots of love for David and I wish him the best. But he is #3 regardless of who he fights until the Klitschko fight comes off.
I seem to remember Wlademere requesting that Peter be made his mandatory challenger. So, really, it's not that he had to fight him; it's that he wanted to fight him. :owned:
I'm not surprised Povetkin wants to fight Haye. Haye doesn't offer cruel contracts like the Klitschko's do, where if one Klitschko loses, you have to fight the other one and then the original one again and then the other one again until one of them finally wins.
It's not that Haye hasn't fought Wlademere. It's that Wlademere hasn't fought Haye.
In case you forgot, my fellow knowledgeable boxing fan, Wlademere opted for 14-fight master Dereck Chisora instead of Haye, after Haye agreed to everything Wlademere wanted.
Who has Wlademere beaten lately? ... hmm ... Oh yeah! He beat Samuel Peter after Peter already lost to both him and his brother before!
Styles make fights. And Wlademere has never fought anyone bigger than him. Maybe that's why he never even mentioned Valuev's name (out of fear)?
And I'm sure you remember the part where Olympic medalist and #1 ranked Povetkin backed out of the fight with Wlad a month out, so to satisfy his mandatory obligation he had to fight #2 ranked Sam Peter. Wlad doesn't make the rankings, he has to defend his titles against whoever his mandatory is when it's time for a mandatory defense.
Notice that Povetkin is absolutely jumping at the chance to fight David Haye, but completely ducked Wladimir Klitschko.
Why?
Because the fight with Haye is completely winnable for him. The fight with Wladimir was not.
Lots of love for David and I wish him the best. But he is #3 regardless of who he fights until the Klitschko fight comes off.