HBO, Just Plain Better Than Showtime

HBO put on 2 of the worst shows in boxing history in the last year. The first was Mosley-Mora which was a PPV none the less and was basically like taking a ambien cuz people were falling asleep during that fight. And the second was Alexander - Bradley which was the most pathetic fight in a long time and a disgrace to the sport. Then they dont pick up Cotto vs Mayorga. And they let the biggest fight of the year (Pacquiao v Mosley) go to a rival network. What is the biggest fight thats gonna be on HBO this year? I'd bet Pacquiao alone sells more PPV this year than all of HBO's PPV's this year put together. Every fight u mentioned is horrible, HBO has put on enough PPV Mosley beatings, it may be a good thing for HBO that this is on Showtime. Unless its an upset thats the onky way its worth 59.99

any Showtime fighter can be bought by HBO, if they are indeed HBO worthy. Manny Pacquiao can't and hes boxing's cash cow.

HBO put on 2 of the worst shows in boxing history in the last year. The first was Mosley-Mora which was a PPV none the less and was basically like taking a ambien cuz people were falling asleep during that fight. And the second was Alexander - Bradley which was the most pathetic fight in a long time and a disgrace to the sport. Then they dont pick up Cotto vs Mayorga. And they let the biggest fight of the year (Pacquiao v Mosley) go to a rival network. What is the biggest fight thats gonna be on HBO this year? I'd bet Pacquiao alone sells more PPV this year than all of HBO's PPV's this year put together.

maidana-morales on hbo backed ppv! the end!

any Showtime fighter can be bought by HBO, if they are indeed HBO worthy.

Those are PPV section and not Showtime television. That's like bringing up HOB whack ass PPV in Maidana-Morales, Hopkins-Jones II, JMM-Diaz II, Mosley-Mora etc etc.... And, yes they put on the better fights on a consistent basis, they have the S6 tourney, the have another tournament in the best division in boxing, is not just Rafa-Izzy, It was Agbeko-Perez, Mares-Perez, they also had Corrales-Castillo I, Dawson-Johnson I, Hopkins-Pascal I, Bradley-Holt unification etc etc....their shobox shows well prospects are in tough, is much better programing. Still, Sho needs to step its production up, does any of those great fights matter if no one is watching, UFC would truly take over if its only competition was Showtime boxing.

But thats the thing, are Showtime fights really the best match ups, Cotto-Mayorga is bull**** and Pac-Mosley is bull**** as well. And constantlt putting on Darchyinian and milking the Vasquez-Marquez to a 4th fight is not cool. Those are PPV section and not Showtime television. That's like bringing up HOB whack ass PPV in Maidana-Morales, Hopkins-Jones II, JMM-Diaz II, Mosley-Mora etc etc.... And, yes they put on the better fights on a consistent basis, they have the S6 tourney, the have another tournament in the best division in boxing, is not just Rafa-Izzy, It was Agbeko-Perez, Mares-Perez, they also had Corrales-Castillo I, Dawson-Johnson I, Hopkins-Pascal I, Bradley-Holt unification etc etc....their shobox shows well prospects are in tough, is much better programing.

alvarez-hatton and chavez jr-zbik are 2 of hbo's big fights coming up.

In terms of showing the best fights on a consistent basis is Showtime>HBO. It's not even debatable. I mean yea sure you can go the Bob Arum route, which seems is what MIC is doing, and say fuck the hardcore is all about the casual fans. But, I'm a hardcore fan and I want to see the best possible fights happen. I don't care about production or lighting or whatever nonsense. I don't care if it's on HBO, Showtime, or a shitty stream. If it's the best possible fight then I am interested and is a big fight to me. All the other BS is for the casual fans. But, if you want to speak for the casual fans then don't complain about Arum doing what he's doing because he's doing it for the casual fans. Not the hardcore fans. But, for the best fights happening on a consistent basis it's Showtime>HBO and is not even debatable. But thats the thing, are Showtime fights really the best match ups, Cotto-Mayorga is bull**** and Pac-Mosley is bull**** as well. And constantly putting on the average at best Darchyinian and milking the Vasquez-Marquez to a 4th fight is not cool.

In terms of showing the best fights on a consistent basis is Showtime>HBO. It's not even debatable. I mean yea sure you can go the Bob Arum route, which seems is what MIC is doing, and say fuck the hardcore is all about the casual fans. But, I'm a hardcore fan and I want to see the best possible fights happen. I don't care about production or lighting or whatever nonsense. I don't care if it's on HBO, Showtime, or a shitty stream. If it's the best possible fight then I am interested and is a big fight to me. All the other BS is for the casual fans. But, if you want to speak for the casual fans then don't complain about Arum doing what he's doing because he's doing it for the casual fans. Not the hardcore fans. But, for the best fights happening on a consistent basis it's Showtime>HBO and is not even debatable.

Thing is, I'm not even sure why, Arum is really not even that great a promoter or personality, Don King is infinitely more engaging I agree with the bold..Arum is pretty dull and Don King has more charisma and is more of a sociable type. However, don't confuse a promoters ability to promote vs. his/her personality. Arum is a GREAT promoter and knows how to build his fighters and put on some great fights while bringing in $$$$$. I don't like the senile old man.. but history proves this and there is a big reason why (though I may not like some of them) he's still putting on big fights to this day .

KFC..........your so funny Ask ESPN, the world leading sporting channel.

I never said HBO hasn't made money off GBP or anyone else.. again.. "...history has shown Arum bringing in the most money to HBO since its inception. There is a reason that heads will roll at HBO sports.. you can count on it. Arum brings in $$$$ and that's the bottom line in any business." But at the end of the day.. I could care less. We get more fights and networks fighting for viewers which means possibly better fights for us fans. Thing is, I'm not even sure why, Arum is really not even that great a promoter or personality, Don King is infinitely more engaging

KFC..........your so funny

HBO made a good penny off of GBP as well, and Don King during the Chavez, Tyson, and Tito years, HBO is greater than Bob Arum I never said HBO hasn't made money off GBP or anyone else.. again.. "...history has shown Arum bringing in the most money to HBO since its inception. There is a reason that heads will roll at HBO sports.. you can count on it. Arum brings in $$$$ and that's the bottom line in any business." But at the end of the day.. I could care less. We get more fights and networks fighting for viewers which means possibly better fights for us fans.

pacquiao is on showtime now and mayweather has always been on hbo. so maybe mayweather is better? Mayweather is not on HBO, he's on KFC.

Mayweather has more money which according to Capitalism means he is better All the money I the world cannot take away what the world is calling him....KFC COWARD.

I don't know about that.. history has shown Arum bringing in the most money to HBO since its inception. There is a reason that heads will roll at HBO sports.. you can count on it. Arum brings in $$$$ and that's the bottom line in any business. HBO made a good penny off of GBP as well, and Don King during the Chavez, Tyson, and Tito years, HBO is greater than Bob Arum

I was thinking of this when watching Cotto-Mayorga's pre show on Showtime. They made the fight seem dull (not that this is a fantastic matchup but it's a garanteed good action fight) and repeated the same thing like a 100 times, and showed the same clips 50 times. On HBO they show the training of the fighters and address different subjects. I agree the preview show sucked for Cotto Mayorga.

big boxing events need to happen on basic cable networks. Fugg HBO and Showtime. ESPN needs to grab one of these events - make some cash and get boxing into more living rooms at the same time.