I'd think so. He adjust his range pretty quickly from what I see. And he does this on the defensive end as well. Montiel was figuring him out in round 2 and put out some very nice counters to Donaire. But Donaire was pretty quick not to overcommit on his punch on the next couple of sequences. Setting up very nice hook ( though eating a right before that :) ). His ability to adjust is what I think is his main advantage ... which would work regardless of size.
Anyway, if he stays at 118, we could have our answer. Montiel is not the only P4P fighter in that division IMO. He is Donaire's "size" that and could give him fits.
What I don't understand is people want Donaire to move up immediately. He was 8-9lbs below Montiel's weight on fight night. He need some time before moving up. Also, the 118 is rock solid. It is just a relative unknown division... but have names like "Perez , Moreno, Agbeko, Mares, Morel, Darchinyan, Cermeño".
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Not being sensitive, I just don't think Donaire's style is based on his size and reach advantage.
He's very fast and slick, and him being smaller than his opponent might actually make more elusive and harder to hit. Whether he can still render taller guys unconscious is a different story.
that maybe, or he could have problems adjusting to someone bigger than he is used to fighting at this point.
a lot of you are too sensitive. i should have said the same height/reach but whatever.
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Not being sensitive, I just don't think Donaire's style is based on his size and reach advantage.
He's very fast and slick, and him being smaller than his opponent might actually make more elusive and harder to hit. Whether he can still render taller guys unconscious is a different story.
bolded part is exactly my point.
i think he would have to adjust fighting a bigger man (aka, a non-midget) and might encounter difficulties but he has the skill to dominate even if he lost that advantage.
people here are getting their panties in a knot.
Bigger guys are generally a problem for everyone especially if they are really talented or just know how to fight big.
He is short with his punches though so if he pays attention to his range he should be able to be effective against anyone because from that position (his range) he will have an advantage over about anyone then from there he may have other advantages to also exploit.
It won't be a big problem for a while anyway since he possesses good size for even 126
What would you consider the midget cut off point?
Montiel is 5'4".
Do you consider 5'5" a midget? Both Mares and Agbeko are that height. As a matter of fact featherweights like Gamboa and Juanma are also that height. Donaire would only be an inch taller than those guys.
a lot of you are too sensitive. i should have said the same height/reach but whatever.
I might be worried about him seeing bigger guys since he is used to being the bigger man but guys the same size shouldn't be much of an issue since he won't run into many guys more sound than he.
In fact guys his size might be better because he is real short with his shots it might be easy for him to get inside the arc of their punches then beat them both inside and outside~
bolded part is exactly my point.
i think he would have to adjust fighting a bigger man (aka, a non-midget) and might encounter difficulties but he has the skill to dominate even if he lost that advantage.
people here are getting their panties in a knot.
I might be worried about him seeing bigger guys since he is used to being the bigger man but guys the same size shouldn't be much of an issue since he won't run into many guys more sound than he.
In fact guys his size might be better because he is real short with his shots it might be easy for him to get inside the arc of their punches then beat them both inside and outside~
2 inches difference is da real deal! Who would've know those 2 inches were the decisive factor why Montiel was KTFO in 2 rounds. All other factors like talent, timing, training, skill to pull off the punch, Ring IQ, etc got thrown out the window.
Maybe Yao Ming should switch to boxing. He got them heights! Or maybe because Montiel is too OLD? He is 31.
i call pacquiao a midget all the time..
and im the biggest tard here
oh yes, and pacman is 5'6 1/2, in that case nonito is also a midget and from what you were asking you meant will nonito be as effective against taller fighters/fighters taller than him. you should have titled this thread "will donaire be as effective against Goblins (Goblins are as tall as Dwarves if not taller and as a rule of thumb dwarves are taller than midgets)". probably donaire and pacquiao arent midgets after all, they are goblins thats why they fight ferociously.
i know the drill here, no link, never happens so here's the link: :boxing:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/782972-Goblins-or-Gnomes.-Who-is-Taller
don't get me wrong. im on the donaire bandwagon since he starched darch.
but will he be as devastating against someone who is just as tall as him?
What would you consider the midget cut off point?
Montiel is 5'4".
Do you consider 5'5" a midget? Both Mares and Agbeko are that height. As a matter of fact featherweights like Gamboa and Juanma are also that height. Donaire would only be an inch taller than those guys.
I was looking at Arm Length which is a better indicator of who has the real advantage. In this case, it goes to Montiel.
http://i54.tinypic.com/314t43t.jpg
don't get me wrong. im on the donaire bandwagon since he starched darch.
but will he be as devastating against someone who is just as tall as him?
What makes you think he'd be any less effective?
Your choice words in your topic title makes you sound like a hater. Cmon, on ANY sport, if you say someone beats midgets is an big insult.
i call pacquiao a midget all the time..
and im the biggest tard here
im not fukking complaining. i don't, i repeat don't, criticize nonito for having a height/reach advantage. he made the weight, therefore he's a 118 lber.
hey, did i mention that montiel is a great win?
im just wondering what you guys think happens if he fights a guy with a height/readch advantage
god damn it, nonito stans are starting to be as annoying as floyd stans and pac stans.
Your choice words in your topic title makes you sound like a hater. Cmon, on ANY sport, if you say someone beats midgets is an big insult.
I know you aren't complaining, it's the bitter haters who I am referring to.
But going back on topic, Nonito has the skills to beat opponents who are just as tall or taller than him. He'll have a bit of a tough time against Eric Morel and Anselmo Moreno but I can see him KOing both.
He would destroy Eric Morel.
But, Anselmo Moreno would be a different story.
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