David Haye Stuttering and Squirming Whilst Being Grilled on Ringside

Haye is a joke of a "champion" and the only people who don't realize this and try to back him up are stupid Englishmen.

The interview in the gym actually made me cringe, it was such an inept display of bullshitting and avoidance. Just listen to him at 3:50 mumbling like a little kid who's just been caught sneaking a peak at the teacher's panties, hands in pockets and head down, "mblmb...50-50...how hard can it be?...mblmb..." It made me feel embarrassed for him. It's Ovah says it like it is. He was embarrassed and wriggled like an eel. He didn't even bring up any better argument (e.g. "9 weeks are too little to promote"), instead HE LIED by mentioning "7-8 weeks".

Ok so why do you lot post it as if its factual that the WBA are forcing Haye to sign a fight by a certain date? When you're just assuming. I tend to be skeptical given the fact that its the WBA. They could probably make Haye the Super Dooper Champion or whatever, make Chagaev "regular" champion. Like I said, Guillermo Jones held the WBA Title for 2 years without fighting.....what the fuk is that about? I find it very hard to believe they wouldn't wait till after Wlad-Chiosra. I kinda get the feeling this is all a rouse, Haye wants rid of his one option to Sauerland, Wlad wants to obligate his last RTL fight. They both stand to make more money with those monkeys off their backs. That has crossed my mind, Boente mentioned that in the Sky interview just before the negotiations started.

Ok so why do you lot post it as if its factual that the WBA are forcing Haye to sign a fight by a certain date? When you're just assuming. I tend to be skeptical given the fact that its the WBA. They could probably make Haye the Super Dooper Champion or whatever, make Chagaev "regular" champion. Like I said, Guillermo Jones held the WBA Title for 2 years without fighting.....what the fuk is that about? I find it very hard to believe they wouldn't wait till after Wlad-Chiosra. I kinda get the feeling this is all a rouse, Haye wants rid of his one option to Sauerland, Wlad wants to obligate his last RTL fight. They both stand to make more money with those monkeys off their backs. the bottom could be true as well we only post what we know, right now all we know is wba told haye to fight his mandatory, thats something haye said as well. the fact he is doing that suggests that it is true.... i am sure haye and one of the klits will fight september or october, both guys agreed to terms remember, so the hard stuff is done

thats obviously a fair point but again we need to look at what we are seeing from the outside first of all your 2nd point, talksport radio, search my thread makers, haye said in it wba will force him to fight their guy if wlad signs to fight chisora and then begged him on the radio to not sign for all we know wba who already waited from november would not have waited longer? pretty reasonable for me, why wait for a july fight which may not happen due to wlad only having 9 weeks remember when they got their own mandatory to make? right now we are in the territory of assumptions what if haye asked wba to not to force him and wait for april 30th? would wba allow that? could be yes and could be no would wlad actually fight at the end of july with 9 weeks only? could be yes and could be no we dont know all the facts but from what we do know, it suggests haye wasnt to blame since even wlads manager admitted they both agreed terms, the only thing that stopped the fight was the chisora one Ok so why do you lot post it as if its factual that the WBA are forcing Haye to sign a fight by a certain date? When you're just assuming. I tend to be skeptical given the fact that its the WBA. They could probably make Haye the Super Dooper Champion or whatever, make Chagaev "regular" champion. Like I said, Guillermo Jones held the WBA Title for 2 years without fighting.....what the fuk is that about? I find it very hard to believe they wouldn't wait till after Wlad-Chiosra. I kinda get the feeling this is all a rouse, Haye wants rid of his one option to Sauerland, Wlad wants to obligate his last RTL fight. They both stand to make more money with those monkeys off their backs.

What you said was the WBA delayed the April 3rd date. So im asking why they cant wait for Wlad to beat Chisora so Haye can sign the contract to fight Wlad? Haye mentioned nothing in this interview about the WBA forcing him to fight by a certain date. All he did was cry about Wlad not needing a tune up. thats obviously a fair point but again we need to look at what we are seeing from the outside first of all your 2nd point, talksport radio, search my thread makers, haye said in it wba will force him to fight their guy if wlad signs to fight chisora and then begged him on the radio to not sign for all we know wba who already waited from november would not have waited longer? pretty reasonable for me, why wait for a july fight which may not happen due to wlad only having 9 weeks remember when they got their own mandatory to make? right now we are in the territory of assumptions what if haye asked wba to not to force him and wait for april 30th? would wba allow that? could be yes and could be no would wlad actually fight at the end of july with 9 weeks only? could be yes and could be no we dont know all the facts but from what we do know, it suggests haye wasnt to blame since even wlads manager admitted they both agreed terms, the only thing that stopped the fight was the chisora one

, common sense suggests a few weeks were added to the deadline or haye and povetkin convinced wba to allow it to happen in may Common sense suggests the WBA would want a unification fight. So why cant Haye convince them to wait for Wlad vs Chisora to be done? They have agreed all terms with Wlad (apparently), so they should have it done by May 1st.

what are you talking about? do you know the royal wedding is on the same weekend as well as I said before the khan fight being on the same month Sky were not willing to give an april date to haye, what is so difficult to understand mate? look, no more confusion sky will not put a haye ppv on april due to the khan fight and also the royal edding the wba will only allow haye to not fight their guy if he arranged a unification fight with wlad fighting chisora, it means haye has to fight their guy thats basically it, if wlad didnt fight chisora and signed to fight haye, the wba would have been powerless to do anything regarding the mandatory you have been presented with the facts, you asked for proof about the wba and got it, now you desperately are still trying to cling onto something when you know this time it was wlad who kinda messed things up and not haye What you said was the WBA delayed the April 3rd date. So im asking why they cant wait for Wlad to beat Chisora so Haye can sign the contract to fight Wlad? Haye mentioned nothing in this interview about the WBA forcing him to fight by a certain date. All he did was cry about Wlad not needing a tune up.

By what date? I know the principle of a mandatory but I also know there are ways round it. Especially with the WBA. dont think boxingscene did an article on the exact date basically wba ordered haye to fight their guy after the harrison fight the way around it was to have a unification fight or pay off the mandatory because haye and klits were in negotiations with a unification, the mandatory was put on hold after talks finished, haye had to arrange a fight so asked for medical documents, after that the british board told the wba and haye camp they wont sanction it so the number 2 guy stepped up, common sense suggests a few weeks were added to the deadline or haye and povetkin convinced wba to allow it to happen in may

But the WBA wouldnt approve waiting until April 30th? Yeah right. what are you talking about? do you know the royal wedding is on the same weekend as well as I said before the khan fight being on the same month Sky were not willing to give an april date to haye, what is so difficult to understand mate? look, no more confusion sky will not put a haye ppv on april due to the khan fight and also the royal edding the wba will only allow haye to not fight their guy if he arranged a unification fight with wlad fighting chisora, it means haye has to fight their guy thats basically it, if wlad didnt fight chisora and signed to fight haye, the wba would have been powerless to do anything regarding the mandatory you have been presented with the facts, you asked for proof about the wba and got it, now you desperately are still trying to cling onto something when you know this time it was wlad who kinda messed things up and not haye

yes, obviously with sky not doing fights in april due to the khan fight, both parties (povertkin instead) agreed to a may date which obviously wba approved since the fight is almost done But the WBA wouldnt approve waiting until April 30th? Yeah right.

As i said they were going to delay it for a Klitscko fight but when Wlad signed to fight chisora he was ordered to fight his mando again last month. By what date? I know the principle of a mandatory but I also know there are ways round it. Especially with the WBA.

On or before April 3rd? yes, obviously with sky not doing fights in april due to the khan fight, both parties (povertkin instead) agreed to a may date which obviously wba approved since the fight is almost done

On or before April 3rd? As i said they were going to delay it for a Klitscko fight but when Wlad signed to fight chisora he was ordered to fight his mando again last month.

http://www.boxingscene.com/haye-vs-chagaev-mandatory-wba-issues-ruling--33271 On or before April 3rd?

also you wanted proof of them ordering it, there are obviously the other site, if you type "wba order haye to fight mandatory, it comes up" here is the link to this sites one, there is another which i cant find by the admin http://www.boxingscene.com/haye-vs-chagaev-mandatory-wba-issues-ruling--33271 edit found another http://www.boxingscene.com/alexander-povetkin-position-fight-david-haye--35672

lol. oh no! dont call me names! why are you stressed! :lol1: i posted in this thread because its related to boxing, not because i hate haye. All you've done in this thread is talk about me...

Evidence? Or is that a stupid question? Why would Jones NOT be ordered to fight his mandatory in 2 years? But the WBA are all over Haye's arse according to you. http://www.boxingscene.com/haye-vs-chagaev-mandatory-wba-issues-ruling--33271

diggler, you need to do your research before making assumptions, wba indeed did order haye to fight his mandatory. team haye then excercised a clause to prevent it by arranging a unification fight for which contracts had to be signed. obviously they couldnt be signed due to the chisora fight which means haye will need to face the number 1 guy or number 2 due to the number 1 not being allowed to come in the uk i saw the programme, haye made some great points and was honest about his own skill and the era he is in. if wlad really wanted the haye fight, he simply would have signed to fight him instead of chisora, that is the bottom line at the end of the day. you can look at the ifs and buts, when a fighter gets all his demands but still doesnt sign to fight, then he does not want it you are an intelligent bloke and obviously dont like haye despite you claiming you are in the middle, but this is real talk, haye didnt want to fight them in 09 and 10 hence him pulling out he wanted to fight them in 2011, infact he was desperate for it, which is why he agreed to fight in germany, wlad simply did not want it at the end so went for chisora in the end. that is the bottom line

Well, i said "i agreed in parts". If their was not any demand for Haye v Harrison then it would have flopped regardless of the amount of money spent into the promoting the fight. Promoting a fight doesn't guarantee high ppv and ticket sales.The demand must be there. But you just agreed there was no demand for Valuev and they still sold it through incessant promotion. Im not saying there was no demand for Audley, but saying "it was the fight everyone wanted" is absolutely ridiculous and false.