After Rewatching Montiel-Hasegawa....

I just cant see how Montiel can beat Donaire, other then a Hasegawa type KO He was obviously losing the Hasegawa fight, one judge having 0-3 rounds for Hasegawa and the other 2 having it 1-2 for Hasegawa before the KO. Donaire is a much better fighter then Hasegawa, being faster, bigger, more powerful, and a much better boxer. He also Swings and misses alot with hooks, which would be prime for Donaire to counter So im saying KO 11 for Donaire but not counting out a flash KO by Montiel which he has done a few times Yup, just like it happened

I told you so :rofl: Donaire is def overarted Good call good sir.:boxing: Donaire made Montiel's win over Hasegawa look like it was a fluke.

It was early in the fight, WTF are you talking about? The fight hadn't even panned out yet, and this is professional boxing there's no such thing as a flash KO at the elite level. Donaire is so overrated and I can't wait to be saying "I told you so" after this Saturday. I told you so :rofl: Donaire is def overarted

Aww you scared to bet against an overrated guy?:bottle: Here's your exact sentence " and this is professional boxing there's no such thing as a flash KO at the elite level" Tell me which part i "misread". Go back to 2nd grade you dumb retarded hick :rofl: I only bet people I have respect for, so forget it you probably won't even pay up. Ummm, I can still see my sentence went way over your head. Hick? I'm not even white you disgusting smelly ass Ruski go watch the fight again commi You act like Hasegawa was dominating the fight, yes he was landing a few pretty shots that was getting the crowd hyped up, compare the 3rd round to the 4th and you'll see Hasegawa wasn't having the same success anymore and Montiel was closing the distance, blocking shots, and finding openings. Last seconds of the round Montiel lands a left counter and rocks Hasegawa, game over. Almost reminded me of Arthur Abraham fights.

Montiel was lunging and missing on Hasegawa. Donaire won't duck under that like Hasegawa, he'll step back and rip a left hook. Make that mistake too many times and it's lights out. Hasegawa's got better defense overall, but Donaire can do the same head movement tricks, counter punch just as accurately with much more power. It's not looking good for Montiel. Yes this is pretty much what im thinking. Montiel got hit hard a few times in that fight and Hasegawa is not the best counter punch and never really took advantage of his lunging. Im not taking anything away from Montiel because Hasegawa was a great win but he didnt look that good at all except for the KO Plus him having trouble with lefties

1. Go watch the first 4 rounds of Mayweather-Judah and tell me how that fight was looking. 2. You totally misread my sentence about the flash KO's, but I'm not even gonna bother. 3. I ain't betting a single point with a dip**** like you but go ahead and bump this thread if you even show up here on Sunday. Aww you scared to bet against an overrated guy?:bottle: Here's your exact sentence " and this is professional boxing there's no such thing as a flash KO at the elite level" Tell me which part i "misread". Go back to 2nd grade you dumb retarded hick :rofl:

Montiel was lunging and missing on Hasegawa. Donaire won't duck under that like Hasegawa, he'll step back and rip a left hook. Make that mistake too many times and it's lights out. Hasegawa's got better defense overall, but Donaire can do the same head movement tricks, counter punch just as accurately with much more power. It's not looking good for Montiel.

So what if it was early? What does it mean the fight hasnt been planned out yet? So there are flash KO's in professional boxing but not at the eilte level? What makes them so special that flash KOs cant happen? :rofl: How about you bet me the rest of your points and ill be sure to bumb this on sat 1. Go watch the first 4 rounds of Mayweather-Judah and tell me how that fight was looking. 2. You totally misread my sentence about the flash KO's, but I'm not even gonna bother. 3. I ain't betting a single point with a dip**** like you but go ahead and bump this thread if you even show up here on Sunday.

It was early in the fight, WTF are you talking about? The fight hadn't even panned out yet, and this is professional boxing there's no such thing as a flash KO at the elite level. Donaire is so overrated and I can't wait to be saying "I told you so" after this Saturday. Flash KO happens even on the elite level.

It was early in the fight, WTF are you talking about? The fight hadn't even panned out yet, and this is professional boxing there's no such thing as a flash KO at the elite level. Donaire is so overrated and I can't wait to be saying "I told you so" after this Saturday. So what if it was early? What does it mean the fight hasnt been planned out yet? So there are flash KO's in professional boxing but not at the eilte level? What makes them so special that flash KOs cant happen? :rofl: How about you bet me the rest of your points and ill be sure to bumb this on sat

Well hasegawa has such an akward style i dont see how you could compare it to donaire. They are two diffrent animals and both great fighters in their own right. Yes he does but so does Donaire He is not an easy fighter to read and has great lateral movement

It was early in the fight, WTF are you talking about? The fight hadn't even panned out yet, and this is professional boxing there's no such thing as a flash KO at the elite level. Donaire is so overrated and I can't wait to be saying "I told you so" after this Saturday.

One thing is uncertain though is how well could Donaire receive Montiel's punches. Donaire has never been in that position is his last 7-8 fights. I'm thinking he would box his way out similar to what he did to the Concepcion fight. But Montiel is way better than Concepcion. On the other hand, Montiel often looses the early rounds and make adjustments later. If memory serves me right, he nearly got in trouble with Z Gorres because of that. Whether this plays in his favor... I'm not sure as Donaire is a thinking boxer and he makes the adjustment himself if necessary. The more I think about it ... Donaire chances grow. But this is not a sure stuff ... not it any stretch.

I would say its fairly obvious if you’ve seen a few fights of his. But Fernando losses the first two rounds, since he is tossing probing punches to measure range. Fernando from round 3rd, lowers his stance, and arms for two reasons. 1 - it deceives a boxers ability to read his body language. You can not tell what punches, or how strong they are from that stance. 2 - he uses lower center of gravity, to pivot his body upward to create inertia thus land harder blows. The cons of using this stance, well it leaves yourself stationary, especially against foes with good hand speed, and footwork. Im going by his last fight against a great fighter who is also a south paw In that fight Montiel did neither of those

Oh without a doubt, Donaire can fight effectively on a southpaw stance. However he tends to trade a bit more wrecklessly while fighting southpaw. I don't think it's written in stone and it's going to be a hell of a fight. I hope he doesnt start playing around going back and forth between orthodox and southpaw. I am very excited to see this fight, even though ill probably miss it live, because both are great champs But i see Donaire walking away with the win

I would say its fairly obvious if you’ve seen a few fights of his. But Fernando losses the first two rounds, since he is tossing probing punches to measure range. Fernando from round 3rd, lowers his stance, and arms for two reasons. 1 - it deceives a boxers ability to read his body language. You can not tell what punches, or how strong they are from that stance. 2 - he uses lower center of gravity, to pivot his body upward to create inertia thus land harder blows. The cons of using this stance, well it leaves yourself stationary, especially against foes with good hand speed, and footwork.

You mean that he didnt do that bad against Hasegawa? Thing is Donaire can and most likely will fight southpaw against him so that can really trouble him Oh without a doubt, Donaire can fight effectively on a southpaw stance. However he tends to trade a bit more wrecklessly while fighting southpaw. I don't think it's written in stone and it's going to be a hell of a fight.

Donaire will win by k.o. ///end thread///

Considering how Montiel performs againsts southpaws i was very impressed. You mean that he didnt do that bad against Hasegawa? Thing is Donaire can and most likely will fight southpaw against him so that can really trouble him

Considering how Montiel performs againsts southpaws i was very impressed.