From Fat Dan's chat today...
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Ronak (NY): Who would win in a mythical matchup between Mayweather and Trinidad?
Dan Rafael (3:06 PM): Mayweather would play with Tito and soundly outpoint him.
Sean (Ireland): Fantasy match, Mayweather or Chavez at welterweight?
Dan Rafael (3:20 PM): Mayweather. Come on.
Gerardo (AZ): Ha! Prime Chavez walks through anything Pretty Boy throws at him and breaks him down. Surprising to the analysts? Maybe. But that's what he did.
Dan Rafael (3:22 PM): I don't see a Chavez-Mayweather being much different than Whitaker-Chavez.
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There's being right and actually doing it. When it comes to Floyd he wins all fantasy fights. Someone tell which fantasy fight has Floyd ever lost? Floyd beats everyone from light to heavyweight lol. The right question is would Floyd get in the ring with Tito and jcc? Aah that's where it all changes and you get a load of but but but but he is not a draw.
Let's all forget about Floyd. He is irrelevant to boxing
Yeah, I agree, I also don't get along with the fanboys/simpletons of any fighter, who have those traits. But get along with a fan of any fighter who brings an educated opinion.
You have your opinion, that's cool, bro. I can see your a cool poster.
You gotdamn right my Bruhnlaw's a cool poster. Respected opinions FTW. :banana:
WTF is going on here?
Mofo's comparing Hearns/Williams, Duran/Hatton, JCC/Baldomir, calling Floyd-Tito at 147 mismatch, Floyd toys with JCC and Tito,
BTW, Floyd is an ATG...I use to say he was an ATG SFW, I think he's top 5 at 130 I personally have him at #2. And, P4P wise I thought he was borderline...But, after I saw what he did to Mosley I feel he's clearly an ATG. He erased all doubts IMO with that performance.
But, still at 147 I think clearly beats JCC, at 135/140 I can't say he does. And, at 147 even if he beats Tito is will not be easy.
But, to say Floyd toys and would be mismatches against other greats(however, I think Tito is a borderline ATG, I wouldn't call him one though, but I thi
k he's an ATG WW) is when people start overrating Floyd Mayweather.
He's an awesome talent, one of the most skill fighters ever. I think he could compete in any era, well not at WW, but in divisions that were better suited for him. But, lets slow down a bit and think...
the shi t got all out of control. I've been here 2 years and I'm a lot of posts deep and I never saw anything (excluding mic's dumb fukn as s) like this. Read the thread for some serious entertainment.
Well yeah your right Dempsey to a lesser extent Johnson is the prime example and but whats funny is that both shamelessly ducked Sam.
Yuh, a LOT of fools would have ducked sam back then AND today.
WTF is going on here?
Mofo's comparing Hearns/Williams, Duran/Hatton, JCC/Baldomir, calling Floyd-Tito at 147 mismatch, Floyd toys with JCC and Tito,
BTW, Floyd is an ATG...I use to say he was an ATG SFW, I think he's top 5 at 130 I personally have him at #2. And, P4P wise I thought he was borderline...But, after I saw what he did to Mosley I feel he's clearly an ATG. He erased all doubts IMO with that performance.
But, still at 147 I think clearly beats JCC, at 135/140 I can't say he does. And, at 147 even if he beats Tito is will not be easy.
But, to say Floyd toys and would be mismatches against other greats(however, I think Tito is a borderline ATG, I wouldn't call him one though, but I think he's an ATG WW) is when people start overrating Floyd Mayweather.
He's an awesome talent, one of the most skill fighters ever. I think he could compete in any era, well not at WW, but in divisions that were better suited for him. But, lets slow down a bit and think...
Well this thread went pretty bizarre, the genius no ceilings explained it was a mismatch, and student of the game is schooling everyone along with me, big rube :lol1:
ur a gOod poster mang but that last post got all fuked up. So you got the content down pat, the asthetics not so much haha!
You take care of the little lady when she comes back. A happy woman makes for a happier man.
Thing about your post is that the first part of dempsey's career last a lot liger than the first part of our boy's career. And that was when every athlete in the country wanted to fight or play baseball.
:lol1: yeah I know your post got confusing.
Well yeah your right Dempsey to a lesser extent Johnson is the prime example and but whats funny is that both shamelessly ducked Sam.
WTF is going on here?
Mofo's comparing Hearns/Williams, Duran/Hatton, JCC/Baldomir, calling Floyd-Tito at 147 mismatch, Floyd toys with JCC and Tito,
BTW, Floyd is an ATG...I use to say he was an ATG SFW, I think he's top 5 at 130 I personally have him at #2. And, P4P wise I thought he was borderline...But, after I saw what he did to Mosley I feel he's clearly an ATG. He erased all doubts IMO with that performance.
But, still at 147 I think clearly beats JCC, at 135/140 I can't say he does. And, at 147 even if he beats Tito is will not be easy.
But, to say Floyd toys and would be mismatches against other greats(however, I think Tito is a borderline ATG, I wouldn't call him one though, but I think he's an ATG WW) is when people start overrating Floyd Mayweather.
He's an awesome talent, one of the most skill fighters ever. I think he could compete in any era, well not at WW, but in divisions that were better suited for him. But, lets slow down a bit and think...
I assumed you already knew how Hatton fought, so why should I find video of him? The point was you knew nothing about Duran and I showed you that Duran didnt fight like Hatton. Stop nitpicking irrelevant subjects and actually try to dicuss boxing.
Mayweather would knock out Trinidad, when Trinidad only got knocked out once, by Bernard Hokins, his entire career, and Mayweather has only knocked out 140lbers at 147 and up. I see.
Duran and hatton are not alike. I can show that all day and 2x on Sunday
:rofl::rofl: I don't know who the hell he is and I don't know where he came up with big rube. And you damn right I'ma good poster Walt :fing02:
ur a gOod poster mang but that last post got all fuked up. So you got the content down pat, the asthetics not so much haha!
You take care of the little lady when she comes back. A happy woman makes for a happier man.
Thing about your post is that the first part of dempsey's career last a lot liger than the first part of our boy's career. And that was when every athlete in the country wanted to fight or play baseball.
I know you stated unequivicably (sp) that Floyd is an atg. I respect tha opinion when backed up with unbiased analysis and an obviously educated opinion. I get along with plenty of Floyd fans here (coach Webb, chief, skills paybills, and a ton more), but I don't get along with the obvious simpletons/fanboys/neophytes that try and shi t on other fighters to make Floyd look good. I also despise fools that spout nonsense to build him up and ignore arguments that refute their garbage.
Dudes like student think we're in some sort of cahoots because we dog him for comparing tata to Chavez. Lol
I shi t on floyd's post 135 career a lot, and I think it's justified. I don't like fighters that have a million excuses for why they this fight or that fight didn't happen. If u want it it happens.
Yeah, I agree, I also don't get along with the fanboys/simpletons of any fighter, who have those traits. But get along with a fan of any fighter who brings an educated opinion.
You have your opinion, that's cool, bro. I can see your a cool poster.
Well, we got to the hotel, got dressed, went to dinner, got fulll had drinks, went to our room, banged, and now she's out cold and I'm drinking 7n7's. Can't go out solo so why not come see what's happening.
I have no problem agreeing to disagree wit you on this, as I respect your opinions. In general I'm a show don't tell me type. Floyd hasn't shown Jack shi t in almost 9 years to be considered an atg IMO, the best fighters he faced were diego and jlc (Oscar was
waaay past it-similar to jlc at 140) and maybe old Shane. Floyd gets a solid win against PAC, Sergio, someone elite in his
weight-not jmm and he proves a lot.
The thing is theres so many fighters throughout history that did the best bulk of their career at the start, for example Jack Johnson and to a slightly lesser extent Jack Dempsey, and it wasn't really based on different times, Harry Greb fought top quality opposition throughout, but it doesn't take away from what those fighters did IMO.
Awww man my woman went to London, I'm missing her comfort :luvbed: but I got day off on Monday so its all good in the hood bro.
Your sidekick/a$$ kissing tagalong however has less than no credibility. I saw him tryng to get you to get on his team or whatever, but you don't shi t on other fighters to make Floyd look good like he does (yes you sotg). He's also another fanboy that ignores posts and replies to whatever he sees fit to reply too.
:rofl::rofl: I don't know who the hell he is and I don't know where he came up with big rube. And you damn right I'ma good poster Walt :fing02:
It's cool bro.
I think Studentofthegam thinks Ruben is agreeing with him because Ruben said Floyd is an ATG. That's all I can presume from that.
I also said the same thing but as this whole comparisons thing started from me saying the stupidity of this forum goes as far as people saying Hearns and Williams fight the same to which he responded with 'they do fight similar' so I'm not on his team lol
I know you stated unequivicably (sp) that Floyd is an atg. I respect tha opinion when backed up with unbiased analysis and an obviously educated opinion. I get along with plenty of Floyd fans here (coach Webb, chief, skills paybills, and a ton more), but I don't get along with the obvious simpletons/fanboys/neophytes that try and shi t on other fighters to make Floyd look good. I also despise fools that spout nonsense to build him up and ignore arguments that refute their garbage.
Dudes like student think we're in some sort of cahoots because we dog him for comparing tata to Chavez. Lol
I shi t on floyd's post 135 career a lot, and I think it's justified. I don't like fighters that have a million excuses for why they this fight or that fight didn't happen. If u want it it happens.
We are not getting caught up in particulars I said JLC was an ATG LW and that Floyd beat him, I also said that Floyd was an ATG 130lber, Your writ me a paragraoh explaining that Floyd wasn't an ATG LW something I definately agree with.
I'm not tryna get on you about anything dude, but okay lets just agree to disagree. I thought my points on weight were all justified though. Have a nice weekend with
your woman, man, peace Walt.
Well, we got to the hotel, got dressed, went to dinner, got fulll had drinks, went to our room, banged, and now she's out cold and I'm drinking 7n7's. Can't go out solo so why not come see what's happening.
I have no problem agreeing to disagree wit you on this, as I respect your opinions. In general I'm a show don't tell me type. Floyd hasn't shown Jack shi t in almost 9 years to be considered an atg IMO, the best fighters he faced were diego and jlc (Oscar was
waaay past it-similar to jlc at 140) and maybe old Shane. Floyd gets a solid win against PAC, Sergio, someone elite in his
weight-not jmm and he proves a lot.
Your sidekick/a$$ kissing tagalong however has less than no credibility. I saw him tryng to get you to get on his team or whatever, but you don't shi t on other fighters to make Floyd look good like he does (yes you sotg). He's also another fanboy that ignores posts and replies to whatever he sees fit to reply too.