"sign with Top Rank and you fight Top Rank fighters" good or bad?

cause your question is dumb. it's not a matter of good or bad because gbp tried to do the same thing. 1. Cause what? I didn't even ask why you didn't give an answer. 2. Even if "its not good or bad" there's still going to be a result of what's going on. You could've just given some input instead of being a jack a.ss Not everything is in black and white

...I didn't ask what GBP was trying to do....! cause your question is dumb. it's not a matter of good or bad because gbp tried to do the same thing.

UFC = Dana White Boxing = Bob Arum do it... why? (chances of boxing to have:) - no more other greedy promoters to halt the fights we want to see. 1 greedy SOB will do just fine. - boxing can have only 1 sanctioning body (no more WBC, IBF, IBO, WBA, etc). - boxing can have only 1 true champion on each division (no more emeritus, super, super duper, silver, ordinary, etc.) - number of divisions can be slimmed down (UFC style / old-school boxing style). who would watch a minimum weight match?... really... - with 1 promoter, "ducking" will be prevented... - f*ck HBO, get CBS instead.. bring in good fights on free tv... just my 6 cents...

I kind of agree with both sides I guess as a fan it shouldn't matter how it gets done as long as it does but unlike most sports where a club is scheduled to play other clubs and money isn't an issue imagine if the Lakers and Celtics didn't play because they. Couldn't agree on venue? Yeah right. That **** would be settled in an hour So you have smaller and less powerful companies trying to make fighters to the next big and they can't because the bigger ones are taking a lot of the talent. and you can't blame the fighters because at first it IS about the money cuz you don't have none! BUT as an a fan- whatever makes the fights happen. Don't care if its on HBO showtime univision ppv the korean channel mtv BET etc make it F.UCKIN HAPPEN

Put it this way, one greedy promoter running everything is better than multiple greedy promoters trying to run everything. It's time us fans stop caring about boxers getting ripped off and start caring about us getting all the fights we want. Mosley, Hopkins, and Marquez ditching Golden Boy was good news, and with Floyd being buddy buddy with Arum at the Super Bowl that's tremendous news.

At least Bob does a good job. Imagine if GBP ran the show - Mosley vs Mora rematch on PVP again.

How is it not a fucking problem? If me and you are promoters, and you have a good fighter, and I have a good fighter, and boxing fans want to see them against eachother, we can't come together and make a fight because you want my fighter to join your company and that's the only way that fight will happen, because you want all the money for you. Like you seriously see nothing wrong with that? That's greed at it's finest. And Bob Arum is a cancer to the sport of boxing. I don't see much problem honestly. Top Rank can be greedy, but all last big cash cows were developed by TR and they have a right to milk their cash cows. Other promoters shouldn't complain that they are not allowed to milk TR fighters. I don't care really whether who promotes the fights and who gets the money as long as promotion is good. And it's not like I have a good fighter and you have a good fighter, it's about Top Rank's Pacquiao and other fighters who want a shot to Pacman fight. Bob Arum didn't force JMM, Berto and Mosley to sign Top Rank. After 3 consecutive in-house fights it was them who realised that their chances would be higher to sign for a fight under Top Rank. Mosley did it first and Arum granted him a fight.

How is it not a fucking problem? If me and you are promoters, and you have a good fighter, and I have a good fighter, and boxing fans want to see them against eachother, we can't come together and make a fight because you want my fighter to join your company and that's the only way that fight will happen, because you want all the money for you. Like you seriously see nothing wrong with that? That's greed at it's finest. And Bob Arum is a cancer to the sport of boxing. De La Hoya Wants To Live In A Gold-In House :haha: Oscar wanted to do it, but he's no Bob Arum. Call it a preemptive strike. That's why Oscar was all over twitter kissing Bob's ass and trying to make peace, popped sh*t and apologized when he realized he was out of his league. Boxing needs more fights and exposure and less do-nothing HBO date bookers and go-nowhere negotiations and bickering. Whoever gets that done will be like the Julius Caesar of boxing- doing away with an old, broken down, corrupt system and replacing it with a new, more efficient and effective way of doing things, even at the expense of tyranny trumping 'liberty'. The sport needs strong central leadership to compete with Dana White and the UFC.

If it helps sign big fights what is the problem with that? If Marquez and Bradley signs Top Rank they can fight Cotto, Margo, Clottey after Pacquiao. How is it not a fucking problem? If me and you are promoters, and you have a good fighter, and I have a good fighter, and boxing fans want to see them against eachother, we can't come together and make a fight because you want my fighter to join your company and that's the only way that fight will happen, because you want all the money for you. Like you seriously see nothing wrong with that? That's greed at it's finest. And Bob Arum is a cancer to the sport of boxing.

Bradley's last arena is one of the biggest in the US. The Pontiac Silverdome is capable of holding over 93,000 fans...just not for Bradley vs. Alexander. Maybe if Pacquiao, Mayweather, Hatton, and Da La Hoya had a tag team match.

If it helps sign big fights what is the problem with that? If Marquez and Bradley signs Top Rank they can fight Cotto, Margo, Clottey after Pacquiao.

It's bad for the sport because it shows that promoters can not work together and in order for boxing fans to see good fights we have to wait till fighters decide to sign with a promoter which may take years. Boxing is not the UFC where there's only 1 promoter and that's Dana White, so MMA fans get to see all the good match ups they want. Bob Arum is trying to copy this, just have in-house fights, like making Top Rank a major Boxing organization when it is just a promotional company. In boxing, it will never work as it does in MMA. Promoters need to work together in boxing. That is not true about GBP trying to do the same thing. And even if they do this, it's good for the sport because GBP will give us the match up right away, while Top Rank will "build it up" for years until you do so much building up that one fighter becomes shot and the match up is no longer that attractive as it was. Dibella, GBP, Shaw, and Goosen all have no problem matching eachother's fighters up. Why can't Top Rank join in on the fun? Why does Arum have to be greedy with the splits and his fighters? And only wanting to promote on his own? GBP, Dibella, Shaw, and Goosen should all just keep working together and leave Top Rank out in the cold. Let Bob Arum do his own fights in Showtime. Hopefully Bradley signs with GBP, because if he signs with Top Rank then we'll only see Bradley vs .

If it makes the big/desirable fights happen and furthermore, helps boxing return to the mainstream (CBS deal) then I say more power to Arum and his new 'gotta catchem' all Pokemon' stance. When Shane became a 'free agent' and immediately got a Pac fight, I said I wouldn't be surprised to see Marquez, Berto, Martinez, and others do the same. Top Rank is making major moves- fights in big stadiums, exposure in the mainstream, new tv/PPV deals, etc. If you were a fighter like say Tim Bradley and you're the best (arguably) in your division and you can only get fights in 1/2 filled 2,000 seat Indian Casinos for $1 mil and then you look at the guy who's only 1 division ahead of you fighting in front of 50,000 people in Cowboys stadium, pulling in 1 mil+ buys and $20 mil every time out, on the cover of TIME, being featured on 60 minutes, meeting the president.... don't you think you would start second-guessing your 'promoter' too and think about going to the big leagues? I know I sure as hell would. In Pac's next 2 fights we could see him take on Marquez for the trilogy that so many want followed by Bradley. If those guys leaving weak situations for Top Rank or 'free agency' gets those fights done, then what's the problem? :thinking:

its the same thing that GBP tried to do. GBP doesn't develop any new talent. all they do is steal talent from other promoters by tempting them with HBO dates. and you know this biitches. ...I didn't ask what GBP was trying to do....!

Right now it is bad, but they could potentially attract the majority of the big fighters.

it's not much of a secret that bobby is mostly matching his fighters with each other. But now as the whole thing that happened with Mosley and possibly even now with Marquez, do you guys think that its a good thing for the sport? I mean fighters outside Top Rank and even promoters that aren't Top Rank? its the same thing that GBP tried to do. GBP doesn't develop any new talent. all they do is steal talent from other promoters by tempting them with HBO dates. and you know this biitches.