Prime Ray Leonard -V- Mayweather Jr : Bare in mind mayweather has fought more than Leonard and never lost. If this fantasy bout happened who would win?
Fixed it for ya. The rest of what you wrote is ignorant drivel. Floyd's offense is practically non-existant. That pot-shot BS works against club fighters like Baldomir and washed-up geriatrics like Mosley but it ain't gonna work against a legitimate world-class great. You don't let your hands go against someone like Leonard you lose the fight.....simple as.
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Fool...Floyd does not fight the same way in every fight...He's adaptable...Pot shots when he deems it best, jabs when he deems it best, throws combos when he deems it best....
Don't be a hater.....I give Sugar Ray all props he was my favorite fighter when I got into boxing I just think Mayweather is the best that I have seen simple as that
wifebeater loses in a close fight.
wifebeater possibly gets knocked down or wobbled early with an outside chance that SRL stops him.
Then we get a few changes in momentum in a chess match, but SRL lands the hard blows to win by decision in the stretch.
doesn't matter if it's 12 or 15 rounds... SRL will win.
Leonard is the wifebeater, not Mayweather.
Mayweather is the babymama beater.
ok, student of the game. why the fuk would I care? I've had this conversation over and over backward and forward on here. you are all about a guy who has to have fantasy fights because he doesn't fight the best around.
those guys I hate, I'm more of a talk the talk, walk the walk type person. you're a guy who like to speculate on what might happen. i wanna see if you can do it. it's much manlier to try and fail than to avoid and make excuses. maybe I like older fighters because they actually DID that. guys rarely do that nowadays except for the cotto, adamek, mares, jmm, vic d, calderon, bradley type fighters.
it's not wasting your time when you could actually be opening your mind to opinions other than your own and learning something. maybe you should try it.
:luvbed:you are arguing with athe student of the gam, lol, nyahahahaha what the fukk is the gam, lol, nyahahahaha
Benitez was arguably a better defensive fighter than Floyd.
Floyd is just not prepared for the firepower and skill Leonard brings.
Benitez isn't anywhere near Floyd's class. Floyd would give Leonard plenty of problems but he simply isn't active enough and shows too much respect to ever beat Ray. I like SRL by 8-4, 7-5.
wifebeater loses in a close fight.
wifebeater possibly gets knocked down or wobbled early with an outside chance that SRL stops him.
Then we get a few changes in momentum in a chess match, but SRL lands the hard blows to win by decision in the stretch.
doesn't matter if it's 12 or 15 rounds... SRL will win.
I wonder if Leonard would jab to the body and go upstairs with the right hand?
Mayweather is likely open to that combination more than any other one.
Benitez was a great defensive fighter but he's not Floyd and his offense is nowhere close sorry!!
Id love to hear how you think that. Floyd has how many KO/TKOs at Welterweight and up?
Benitez KOed 154lb champ Hope, who was a quality fighter.
Benitez was arguably a better defensive fighter than Floyd.
Floyd is just not prepared for the firepower and skill Leonard brings.
Benitez was a great defensive fighter but he's not Floyd and his offense is nowhere close sorry!!
Don't sell Floyd short because he's not from yesteryear....He would be a great fighter in any era.
He is defensive and his offense rolls off of that D. He has a chin, has heart, intellect, is crafty, strong and has is all in terms of a pure boxer.
So stop the nonsense about Floyd aint prepared....
I study fighters....Even though Floyd is fighting in this era of the twelve round fightshe is supremely conditioned...Never really winded in his fights.... I know that Floyd spars 20 minutes rounds with sparring partners coming in and out....This is not to knock Leonard but I think Floyd has the edge in conditioning. I also feel that Floyd is the smartest fighter that I have seen since I've been watching the sport, so yes I believe he is smarter.
The advantages I give Leonard are:
Height, Natural Size, Punching Power,
I think the fight would be great but I feel Floyd would win.
You are right that Floyd never fought anyone like Leonard but the same can be said about Sugar Ray, he never faced a fighter like Floyd
Benitez was arguably a better defensive fighter than Floyd.
Floyd is just not prepared for the firepower and skill Leonard brings.
even though srl trained for 15 rd fights?
floyd is smarter? are you sure about that? has floyd fought anyone like srl?
I study fighters....Even though Floyd is fighting in this era of the twelve round fightshe is supremely conditioned...Never really winded in his fights.... I know that Floyd spars 20 minutes rounds with sparring partners coming in and out....This is not to knock Leonard but I think Floyd has the edge in conditioning. I also feel that Floyd is the smartest fighter that I have seen since I've been watching the sport, so yes I believe he is smarter.
The advantages I give Leonard are:
Height, Natural Size, Punching Power,
I think the fight would be great but I feel Floyd would win.
You are right that Floyd never fought anyone like Leonard but the same can be said about Sugar Ray, he never faced a fighter like Floyd
even though srl trained for 15 rd fights?
floyd is smarter? are you sure about that? has floyd fought anyone like srl?
It's a pick um for me. But Bruhnlaw, you think that Floyd trains for 12 rd fights? He's always fresh at the end of his fights regardless who's in front of him. My guess(I've read it somewhere, just dont remember where)is that he train's as if he's going to be goin for 15rds. But Floyd has not seen anyone near the same calibre as SRL. This fight would be very iteresting if it could've ever happened.
I cant believe this thread is still hot. Everything that could be discussed about this fight has already been said. There isn't anything else that could be added to this thread. You could fukkin invite Bert Sugar himself into this thread nad he'd say the exact same thing. All points have been examined.
Great fight... I give it to Mayweather is a close tactical fight....Both tremendously gifted athletes with high boxing IQ's and acumen....I judge think Mayweather is a little smarter and more adaptable has better conditioning
even though srl trained for 15 rd fights?
floyd is smarter? are you sure about that? has floyd fought anyone like srl?
Great fight... I give it to Mayweather is a close tactical fight....Both tremendously gifted athletes with high boxing IQ's and acumen....I judge think Mayweather is a little smarter and more adaptable has better conditioning
Alot of people mentioned, how SRL had more power, better skills, better footwork, bigger in size.
But no one mentions there defensive attributes. Mayweather is simply leagues above SRL in that department. I believe they are similar in all other attributes except defence
Could you honestly see mayweather losing to Roberto Duran? that would be an easy UD for Money
Slip shots, perfectly timed shoulder role? place elbow over liver(avoid effective body shots), he's stance is very strange too as he doesn't stand like an orthodox fighter when in defensive mode. Defence isn't simply using your great footwork to get away from shots?(prime Roy jones), elite defence is standing on the ropes and taking all of your challangers best shots, and 1 of 20 hits your thats somthing else....James Toney had somthing similar, i'm not talking about rope-a-dope either :)
There are alot of fighters that could match floyds other skills in the last few decades but there are few who could match he's defensive work rate....unfortunately alot of people in these forums don't recognise defence as work rate:boxing:
Floyd's not even trying to entertain a fight with Pacquiao, yet he'd UD Duran easy???
Sure...