simple question to all floyd fans

why not just do the blood testing after the fight? win or lose pac will be tested. wtf is wrong with you guys? why are you agreeing to floyds demand? tell meeee whats the difference between testing before the fight and after the fight? pac will still get caught right? TELL ME Am going to take a wild guess that you don't understand the concept of "drug cycling".

why not just do the blood testing after the fight? win or lose pac will be tested. wtf is wrong with you guys? why are you agreeing to floyds demand? tell meeee whats the difference between testing before the fight and after the fight? pac will still get caught right? TELL ME Question for you? Why is Mosley doing testing for this fight with Pac? What kind of testing is it? Random and why isnt Pac doing the same type of testing? You do realize that the following guys have admitted to taking Steroids and were never caught by a drug test right. Mosley Vargas Jones Toney botha and numerous others so we should assume everyone is on the up and up right.

It started when Floyd accused Manny use of PED. He even stated the first Pacquiao vs Morales fight dated March 19 2005 on his latest interview. From that date he never mention Pacquiao of using PED until 2010. He even mention that he will never beat Manny but KO him year 2009. Again from March 19, 2005 until now Manny juiced or not juiced never get killed or left permanent damage on his opponent. I'm not saying Pacquiao is on PEDs. I'm not saying he has done serious damage to his opponents due to PEDs, but only that i think this testing process need an overhaul to protect boxers ASAP and not wait until someone loses their life because of lack of proper testing. What i'm saying is that the testing available right now for boxing differs from state to state, country to country, commission to commission, and needs to be regulated and improved across the globe by a single governing body. I'd love for all drugs available be easily detected by urine test, but that's just not the case and pretending it is isn't going to help the sport. Pretending that the WADA or USADA is somehow being controlled by Mayweather and GBP isn't either. I'm willing to agree with all Pac fans who think that Mayweather is nothing but a coward looking for a way out of a fight he knows he's going to lose against one of the best fighers of our era. But that doesn't change the fact that testing in the sport of boxing, across the board, needs to improve, plain and simple.

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/promo-lead/conte-weighs-in Thanks for the link. I ask several member here and you are the only one give a good link. "Creams, transdurmals, clear the fastest. Orals, would be next. Water-based drugs- including testosterone- would be next, then the oil-based. So some of these can clear in a matter of hours and days," explained Conte."So if you know when you’re going to be tested a week out, you go off the use of oral testosterone, for example, you’re going to test negative. So that is really an issue." Although he stated some sample. Still he never mention that only blood test can detect those belongs to categories that can be clear in a matters of hours. He mention some PEDs and its effect. Like those would help a person heal faster. I thinks this one is possible for a boxer. On the later part he also mention that USADA testing is certainly better than what is used in professional sports it’s still relatively easy to beat the test. Granting it is true that some PEDS can be clear just a matter of hour although he never mention that this PEDS will benefit the boxers. If we looked at the previous fight of Mosley vs Mayweather there is a wide gap on dates that blood is tested also it has 18 days gap prior to the fight. Boxing match don't last more than 1 hour even if it goes 12 rounds. Maybe if that random testing Mosley vs Mayweather include a day before prior to the fight then Manny don't have excuse.

lol the peds boat has sailed again with the same people on board:lol1:

If you read the whole statement "urine test alone can be used to detect the presence of recombinant EPO" is not the same with "only urine test can be used to detect the presence of recombinant EPO and blood test don't" I think the second one is your interpretation that why you ask.. "why does WADA still blood test" I post that from WADA site because my interpretation is that if we have two test. Namely urine test and blood test. If urine test alone can be used to detect PED then there is no need for the blood test. Its like urine test detect x w and z and blood test detect x w and z also. If that is the result always there is no need for the blood test since the urine test is accurate. I would like to add from the WADA site This report also recommended that urine testing be used in conjunction with blood screening for a variety of reasons, including the cost savings of performing blood screening prior to testing urine. Some international sports federations still use both urine and blood matrix for the detection of EPO. Recently, the urine test was adapted to blood to perform detection of some new erythropoiesis stimulating agents. They blood test because EPO (and other forms) disappear in a matter of hours but the effects don't. So if they don't get it on the urine, they'll notice the changes over time on the blood.

No one is a resident doctor. I have a keyboard like you do. The problem is 95% of you look for stuff to suit your agenda/bias instead of just poring through everything and reaching your own conclusion. If you did that, we'd all hit the same bullseye. It's all good daze. I only brought up hair analysis to see if anyone knew if it was a valid consideration or not. I won't be arguing with anyone about testing procedures. Unless either side can prove that they've actually studied it extensively in school or interviewed someone that we can all deem qualified, then it just becomes a contest of my google results are better than yours. But for the record, I'll try remember Hair analysis - daze says no.

Why are you still here? We told you you don't know what you're talking about. Now please stop. Ask yourself, why does WADA still blood test then? Come back when you get the answer. ONLY THEN. If you read the whole statement "urine test alone can be used to detect the presence of recombinant EPO" is not the same with "only urine test can be used to detect the presence of recombinant EPO and blood test don't" I think the second one is your interpretation that why you ask.. "why does WADA still blood test" I post that from WADA site because my interpretation is that if we have two test. Namely urine test and blood test. If urine test alone can be used to detect PED then there is no need for the blood test. Its like urine test detect x w and z and blood test detect x w and z also. If that is the result always there is no need for the blood test since the urine test is accurate. I would like to add from the WADA site This report also recommended that urine testing be used in conjunction with blood screening for a variety of reasons, including the cost savings of performing blood screening prior to testing urine. Some international sports federations still use both urine and blood matrix for the detection of EPO. Recently, the urine test was adapted to blood to perform detection of some new erythropoiesis stimulating agents.

No one is a resident doctor. I have a keyboard like you do. The problem is 95% of you look for stuff to suit your agenda/bias instead of just poring through everything and reaching your own conclusion. If you did that, we'd all hit the same bullseye. Are you trying to implicate that my god is a suspected steroid abuser?

www.wada.org It didn't ...

I guess daze is the resident doctor. I'll try to remember that next time. No one is a resident doctor. I have a keyboard like you do. The problem is 95% of you look for stuff to suit your agenda/bias instead of just poring through everything and reaching your own conclusion. If you did that, we'd all hit the same bullseye.

Do you know specific PED that after a fight will be out on boxer's system immediately? http://www.maxboxing.com/news/promo-lead/conte-weighs-in

There you go, there's your answer. I guess daze is the resident doctor. I'll try to remember that next time.

I want real answers to my questions www.wada.org

Ask WADA. They are the experts. What is your issue here? I want real answers to my questions. Also I still can't agree that a thousand of athletes are the test subjects since my one question is about how the Mayweathers are 100% sure of that kind of PED.

That is worse case senario, Olympic boxers get tested constantly and still perform at a top level. The risk i'm most concerned about is the day we see a fighter get killed or left permenantly damaged by a juicer for the rest of his life because the dangers of a needle to close to fight night. Sadly though, i think it just might come to that unless testing improves. It started when Floyd accused Manny use of PED. He even stated the first Pacquiao vs Morales fight dated March 19 2005 on his latest interview. From that date he never mention Pacquiao of using PED until 2010. He even mention that he will never beat Manny but KO him year 2009. Again from March 19, 2005 until now Manny juiced or not juiced never get killed or left permanent damage on his opponent.

One more question: Mayweathers seems to be very expert on PED issue. By that, it also comes into our minds: how, did they tried it? So the test subjects are not the thousand of athletes, right? Just like I produce a PQR PED and as of my experiment on micky mouses it goes out in the body within 1 hour after drinking water. How long would those doctors came to know my PED if I just secretly offer it to those who needed it. And let's say I offer it to you for your boxer, do you believe me when I said i goes out in the body within an hour? Or you have to have some test subject to see it for yourself? Ask WADA. They are the experts. What is your issue here?

why not just do the blood testing after the fight? win or lose pac will be tested. wtf is wrong with you guys? why are you agreeing to floyds demand? tell meeee whats the difference between testing before the fight and after the fight? pac will still get caught right? TELL ME I'm a boxing fan and this is what I want from both of these guys. Either stop with all of their demands - weight penalties, glove/ring size, osdt etc etc - and either accept the terms that any other fight would have or make your demands but meet all of them. If Manny wants $10 Million for any pound Floyd would happen to be over 147, then he should accept no cut-off dates. If Manny doesn't want any cutoff dates or Floyd doesn't want to accept weight penalties then just drop all of them and put the gloves on and jump in the ring. That's what I want as a fan of the sport.

Mayweathers suspect Pac is on PEDs. They dont' accept the cutoff days counter-offered by Pac team because they knew there is/are PED(s) that will go out of the system immediately. Questions: 1. So Mayweathers really knew for real that there are PEDs that goes out quickly? 2. They must knew this specific type of PED if we relate it to number 1? Can we ask them what it is so that the commission will be alerted on it? 3. How did they knew there are these type of PEDs? In search to become a superboxer or superman? They're boxing experts, not nutritional expert, right? Or maybe they have some experts in their team? Or from articles just like a-side meth? 4. Why they have to know about these type of PEDs? To be feed to their cats and dogs? 5. Mayweathers seems to be very sure 100% that there are PEDs that work that way. So if you're 100%, there must be some test subjects on it to prove it. I wonder who are those test subjects are, maybe a scorpions from Alaska or penguins from Saudi Arabia? 6. How effective is that kind of PED that goes out your body very quickly? Can you punch harder or move quicker than normal because of it? Just asking...... One more question: Mayweathers seems to be very expert on PED issue. By that, it also comes into our minds: how, did they tried it? It means they have doctors that know all about XYZ and thus, they know when to test. It's their job, by the way. So the test subjects are not the thousand of athletes, right? Just like I produce a PQR PED and as of my experiment on micky mouses it goes out in the body within 1 hour after drinking water. How long would those doctors came to know my PED if I just secretly offer it to those who needed it. And let's say I offer it to you for your boxer, do you believe me when I said i goes out in the body within an hour? Or you have to have some test subject to see it for yourself?

Oh no you don't... Signing out...10-4. :lol1: I know right Webb, Dazed will have this under control. No need to run interference.