When this fight happens Bradley has never sold a PPV in his life and in Pontiac Michigan he only drew 1000, The 6000 figures are free/discounted seats and Bradley is not a draw in any way whatsoever.
So if this fight takes place in the UK where Khan can sell out a stadium let alone an arena with 25,0000 and Khan is already PPV in the UK not only that against Malignaggi more people tuned into watch the replay of Khan fight than did for the FA Cup final highlights, Thats like more people tuning to watch Khan than the Superbowl.
So baring in mind that Khan is that star, the draw, The money maker, Bradley should not be expecting 50/50, It would be unrealistic of Bradley to expect a 50/50 split since he has no locus standi nor the fan base to warrent such a split. Team Khan will only give Bradley 60/40 split or more likely 70/30 with 70 going to Khan which is more realistic.
The question is if Bradley will accept these terms, If not he can go and fight another Abregu for a paltry fee, Team Khan will probably force Gary Shaws hand to accept a small split which is best for everyone.
You do understand it goes by how well your promoted right? If Bradley jumps ship as he should the fight happens in the states with no less than 50-50...
There was plenty of promotion for the "superfight". Jumping ship really wont make much difference. You do realise when Khan was with his previous promotor he was still selling out 20k arenas?
And can you care to explain why Khan doesnt deserve it?
You obviously dont . . . Financially what sort of revenues will Bradley be adding? Nearly nothing. Khan on the other hand would be greatly increasing the revenue streams. Bradley can keep his 100% of nothing if he wants.
The facts are there, Amir khan sells tickets (9k in a few hours), Bradley doesnt (339 in 2 months). That is the reason why Khan deserves the bigger cut. Bradley doesnt fight on ppv, khan has for a few fights now. If it was a case of Khan fighting Mosely/Cotto/Margo then i would say he should accept a small cut as he isnt as well established as these guys in terms of selling etc. But Bradley deserving a 50/50 cut when he is selling 339 tickets for the first all american unification in decades? GTFO. Bradley is a bum, all he can hope for is to keep winning because once he loses he is going to fade away. Khan will lose sooner rather than later i think, but he wont have any problems drawing crowds even after he loses (ie. prescott loss).
The best thing for Bradley I think would be to fight Manny first, no doubt he would get KTFO but atleast he would be able to chalk it upto pac being superman, and he wouldnt really lose any credibility. When he loses to Khan though there isnt really anywhere for him to go from there
You do understand it goes by how well your promoted right? If Bradley jumps ship as he should the fight happens in the states with no less than 50-50...
I understand how this business works...I said Khan has done nothing to deserve the bigger split! By the time these two come to the table, Bradley could jump ship to one of the power house promoters, TR!? If that happens no way I see Bradley giving in to anything less than 50/50 or crossing the pond to fight
You obviously dont . . . Financially what sort of revenues will Bradley be adding? Nearly nothing. Khan on the other hand would be greatly increasing the revenue streams. Bradley can keep his 100% of nothing if he wants.
The facts are there, Amir khan sells tickets (9k in a few hours), Bradley doesnt (339 in 2 months). That is the reason why Khan deserves the bigger cut. Bradley doesnt fight on ppv, khan has for a few fights now. If it was a case of Khan fighting Mosely/Cotto/Margo then i would say he should accept a small cut as he isnt as well established as these guys in terms of selling etc. But Bradley deserving a 50/50 cut when he is selling 339 tickets for the first all american unification in decades? GTFO. Bradley is a bum, all he can hope for is to keep winning because once he loses he is going to fade away. Khan will lose sooner rather than later i think, but he wont have any problems drawing crowds even after he loses (ie. prescott loss).
The best thing for Bradley I think would be to fight Manny first, no doubt he would get KTFO but atleast he would be able to chalk it upto pac being superman, and he wouldnt really lose any credibility. When he loses to Khan though there isnt really anywhere for him to go from there
gary shaw has done a dismal job with tim bradley
he doesnt have any choice if he continues his current path
dude has no fanbase
blame the promoter, because he's not a bad fighter
additionally, hbo isnt going to pay him to fight a bum in his next fight
according to some he's got a garanteed mil plus coming in his next fight
put him in w/ khan
let him take his garantee plus a small
and khan takes the rest because he's the one making them the money
and once he becomes a free agent he should avoid gary shaw like the plague
he lets talent promote fighters. he lets good fights promote themselves
he doesnt invest anything in the promotions of their careers
I understand how this business works...I said Khan has done nothing to deserve the bigger split! By the time these two come to the table, Bradley could jump ship to one of the power house promoters, TR!? If that happens no way I see Bradley giving in to anything less than 50/50 or crossing the pond to fight
No way does Khan deserve the bigger split. This thread is ridiculous!
Its been broken down quite a few times, Khan is the bigger draw by far. The bigger draw gets the bigger cut, its as simple as that.
For example, last year the Champions League final featured Inter and Munich, total prize money for Inter was €49million, and Munich €44million. However, Manchester Utd, who were knocked out in the quater finals received €46million. So they earned more than Munich and nearly as much as Inter despite losing 2 stages earlier, playing fewer games. . . . See how things work?
There is no point explaining it to them they don't understand. If they are including all revenue (UK, and US), split than there is no way Bradley can get a 50/50 it would be ludicrous for him to get 50% of the UK ppv numbers considering he isn't even a ppv fighter in the US, khan can do numbers with any dance partner and I doubt Bradley would have a huge bearing on the UK numbers. If you do 50/50, but bradley gets none of the UK ppv revenue, then 50/50 is fair. But it would be in Bradley's interest to go for a 60/40 65/35 across all income streams, he will make more money. I wish you American ****ers would understand this point
:lol1: I am half myself, well, that's my bad half, but yeah, many are quite slow and blind themselves.
If the fight is held the US, then they should do 50/50 (US Revenue), but it makes a lot more sense to hold it in the U.K, which Khan would deserve more from the pot.
There is no point explaining it to them they don't understand. If they are including all revenue (UK, and US), split than there is no way Bradley can get a 50/50 it would be ludicrous for him to get 50% of the UK ppv numbers considering he isn't even a ppv fighter in the US, khan can do numbers with any dance partner and I doubt Bradley would have a huge bearing on the UK numbers. If you do 50/50, but bradley gets none of the UK ppv revenue, then 50/50 is fair. But it would be in Bradley's interest to go for a 60/40 65/35 across all income streams, he will make more money. I wish you American ****ers would understand this point
No way does Khan deserve the bigger split. This thread is ridiculous!
If the fight is held the US, then they should do 50/50 (US Revenue), but it makes a lot more sense to hold it in the U.K, which Khan would deserve more from the pot.
You guys are living in a fantasy world. Come back to reality.
I take it you are familiar with the U.K market already knowing that Khan has done 18,000 before?
PPV wise, no numbers have been officially released but it been said he did beyond 100k against kotelnik, and Khan has come a long way since then. Also given the fact Sky refused to cancel Khans April 16th date in favour of Haye-Klit, who has already sold near 1m against Valuev, i would think they have a lot of faith in Khan.
A paragraph that's absolutely filled to the brim with bullshit.
Proof of Khan being able to sell out any stadium please?
He isn't PPV in the UK. That's why he had to share the PPV for the Maidana fight with 2 other cards on the same night. Added to the fact that the Malignaggi fight wasn't even on PPV. The reason more people tuned in for the Khan replay iss because that fight aired live at about 4am our time, not a lot of people want to say up till that time to watch Khan fight Paulie. Also, everyone watches the FA cup final live anyway, there's no need for them to watch the highlights. The FA cup is no-where near the magnitude of the superbowl either so don't even try and compare the two.
Khan been wanting to fight at the Reeboks stadium in Bolton but the football team is still in season and playing games so they couldnt book it, So no choice but the MEN which he has sold out a few times.
Also what you talking about Khan not PPV? His fight with Malignaggi was on ITV which is free agreed, But since Prescott his fights have been all PPV, Even Fagan - Khan was PPV albeit with Oscar -V- Pacman the same night. Salita was PPV, As was Barrera and Maidana in the UK. They dont get HBO in the UK they got something called Sky and setanta. Also the fact I stated is correct about more people watching replay of Khan fight than replay of the FA cup, Take it how you will.
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I will be the first to admit that Khan is the cash cow in the division and Bradley can't draw flies. But he is #1 in the division and he commands respect. The division is too deep to take short money from Khan's people. Bradley wouldn't take less than 50 percent to fight in the UK, even though it would be easily be his biggest payday. His people didn't want to fight in St. Louis because they were afraid Timmah would get a raw deal. Ok, since HBO will pay all the promotional and sanctioning fees and purses and the promoters don't have to do squat let's fight this in a town where the economy is depressed and hardly no one cares or heard of these fighters. Ok, I will get off my soapbox. My point is Timmah's people will not take short money to fight Khan. I will say Khan would deserve 55/45 split of the ppv sales in the UK.
A lot of good points in this post I agree with. I believe Bradley had also agreed at one point to fight Alexander in St. Louis, but wisely changed his mind because he didn't want to risk a "hometown" decision to Devon. Given the outcome of the Alexander-Kotelnik fight I think it was a smart move. Bradley cares about the money but I also think he values his record too much to risk a loss to a possible B.S. hometown decision, which is the reason I also believe he will not end up agreeing to fight in the UK either. I think he will change his mind once negotiations start - just like he did with Alexander. I don't think Schaeffer will have a problem having Khan fight in the States, he was actually the one pushing Khan to fight Maidana in the U.S., while I believe Khan originally wanted it to be in the UK. Although, that might have been for the purpose of getting Khan more well known in the States.
I'm with you, I don't believe Bradley is going to allow Team Khan to low-ball him. I really can't see him being o.k with them determining what his "highest payday" should be. Fine, Schaeffer (and others on here) say that people shouldn't worry about Khans money - that may be true, but isn't Khan also doing the same thing by trying to determine what another fighters highest payday should/would be? Either way you look at it, whether in the U.S. or in the UK, Bradley should have an even split of money. Bradley is the man that Khan needs to beat in order to continue on his cruisade of being AND beating the best. Bradley is already at the top and can easily move up NOW to fight either Mayweather or Pacquiao. By Khans own admission, he has a bit further to go to step up to the likes of Mayweather at this time.
I still think negotiations between Bradley and Khan are going to be difficult and ongoing, and it may be in to next year before we see a date set - if at all.
If Bradley couldnt get a deal that he wants with Khan, he is goin to jump ship to Top Rank. Arum is already offering him a fight with Pac. And if this happens, Khan will have no viable opponent in the fall that could place him one step closer to a fight with Floyd next year.
They better be fair to Bradley because he does have options... In fact, I wouldn't be suprise if he wait 'till May (Pac-Mosley) to make his decision.
There are plenty of British fighters who have gone underappreciated.
I shouldve slightly rephrased that, world champion british boxers were never supported as poorly as Bradley is. Benn/Eubank/Calzaghe/Hatton/Haye/Lennox/Prince/Cobra/Collins/Bruno to name a few. Even Audley harrison was supported fairly well for a long time
A paragraph that's absolutely filled to the brim with bullshit.
Proof of Khan being able to sell out any stadium please?
He isn't PPV in the UK. That's why he had to share the PPV for the Maidana fight with 2 other cards on the same night. Added to the fact that the Malignaggi fight wasn't even on PPV. The reason more people tuned in for the Khan replay iss because that fight aired live at about 4am our time, not a lot of people want to say up till that time to watch Khan fight Paulie. Also, everyone watches the FA cup final live anyway, there's no need for them to watch the highlights. The FA cup is no-where near the magnitude of the superbowl either so don't even try and compare the two.
I agree with you on the fa cup. Its more likely than not if the unification fight was in the UK he would be able to fill 25k+. For example he sold out the MEN for the barrera fight coming off the Prescott loss, thats around 20k+ if im not mistaken. Then sold out the MEN against Kotelnik. Add to that selling out the Nottingham arena 10k twice, Metro arena - 11k, Bolton arena several times -7k just to name a few . . . . . . .
Bradley on the otherhand can only manage to sell out tiny auditoriums (circa 2500) in his home state. In his 3 previous fights as champ he fought at a 2500 capacity building. That is pathetic for a world champion especially in his home state/country. Brittish fans support their fighters, not something which can be said for the american counterparts, but then again who can blame them with the boring **** they have to watch.
So if this fight takes place in the UK where Khan can sell out a stadium let alone an arena with 25,0000 and Khan is already PPV in the UK not only that against Malignaggi more people tuned into watch the replay of Khan fight than did for the FA Cup final highlights, Thats like more people tuning to watch Khan than the Superbowl.
A paragraph that's absolutely filled to the brim with bullshit.
Proof of Khan being able to sell out any stadium please?
He isn't PPV in the UK. That's why he had to share the PPV for the Maidana fight with 2 other cards on the same night. Added to the fact that the Malignaggi fight wasn't even on PPV. The reason more people tuned in for the Khan replay iss because that fight aired live at about 4am our time, not a lot of people want to say up till that time to watch Khan fight Paulie. Also, everyone watches the FA cup final live anyway, there's no need for them to watch the highlights. The FA cup is no-where near the magnitude of the superbowl either so don't even try and compare the two.