Victor Conte, ratted on Mosley, Marion Jones, Barry Bonds.
Jose Canseco, ratted on Mark McGwire, Rafael Palmeiro, and other team mates, and wrote a book.
Roger Clemens, trainer and friend ratted him out.
But where is Pac rats,
I'm guessing any evidence on Pac using any type of Peds would be worth a couple of millions too.
I can see TMZ, ESPN, yahoo sports, even Golden Boy would pay to have that info. Even some Flomos will pay for this info.
What even crazier Pac has more eyes on him world wide then any of the athlete, yet not a single shred of evidence on pac using.
You mean the commissions that caught Roy Jones, James Toney, Fernando Vargas, etc.
I just want to clarify because we can't leave out any history if you're going to take that path.
We can't leave out the fact that even after those guys were caught,
not a single one of you ever made a thread about the commissions standards being unacceptable.
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Hello Gino,
anybody home?
Al haymon, you there?
GG Marquez, vito corleone, dios dominicano,
where did you run to?
All I wanted was some clarification.
Didn't mean to scare you off with such a simple request.
I can't stand rats!! They try to justify their self-serving actions as being self-righteous. It all comes down to being fearful of something that makes them do it.
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lolz at haters what are you guys impying on the blood test conveniently lost and Pac have to retake the test ??
this actually happend before the first morales fight and the commission told PAC to do the blood test 3 days (not so sure) before the fight and he did, that is as random as you can get, I bet floyd in his 41 fight has never been blood tested 3 days before the fight ...
Pac blame the blood test taken that close to that fight caused him to be weaker, probably more Psychologically the Physical...
Not only has Pacquiao passed every drug test in his life but no one has come forward with proof otherwise.
If you cheat in boxing you will get caught. Look at Gayweather with Xylocaine.
All this is a smokescreen so that no one talks about Fraud using Xylocaine and getting KTFO.
One of Manny's blood tests was conveiniently "lost" and he had to re-take the test.
Floyd was randomly tested. 18 day cutoff? Floyd nor Mosely got to choose the cutoff date. If there was a cutoff, why is Pac worried? Because he won't KNOW when the cutoff will be.
Prove Floyd KNEW when the cutoff was. Floyd still took the test. Manny hasn't.
Manny will be running to Singapore as SOON as the Mosely farce is over and he feels Floyd is returning. But I'm sure Floyd will conveniently be viewed as "returning" as soon as Manny's run out of the country signed to fight the next Top Rank signed, coming off losses, weight drained, looking for a last big payday, ready to retire fighter.
The blood was lost a week before the first Morales fight, but still Manny complies and submit himself to be blood tested by the Nevada Commission with no qualms... Floyd should have just asked the Nevada commission to do this random blood test for the fight and not be so arrogant about it in the first place. The main thing that really prevented this fight to happen in the first place was Manny getting insulted with all the accusations from Floyd Sr. and Jr., they should have just asked for the OST nicely to be included in the Commission's standard for peds tests...
How many commissions caught Shane mosley and Evander Holyfield?
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You mean the commissions that caught Roy Jones, James Toney, Fernando Vargas, etc.
I just want to clarify because we can't leave out any history if you're going to take that path.
We can't leave out the fact that even after those guys were caught,
not a single one of you ever made a thread about the commissions standards being unacceptable.
Manny has tested for the commission in every one of his fights, and tested clean.
How many commissions caught Shane mosley and Evander Holyfield?
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One of Manny's blood tests was conveiniently "lost" and he had to re-take the test.
Floyd was randomly tested. 18 day cutoff? Floyd nor Mosely got to choose the cutoff date. If there was a cutoff, why is Pac worried? Because he won't KNOW when the cutoff will be.
Prove Floyd KNEW when the cutoff was. Floyd still took the test. Manny hasn't.
Manny will be running to Singapore as SOON as the Mosely farce is over and he feels Floyd is returning. But I'm sure Floyd will conveniently be viewed as "returning" as soon as Manny's run out of the country signed to fight the next Top Rank signed, coming off losses, weight drained, looking for a last big payday, ready to retire fighter.
Floyds balls were conveniently lost after he said this,
"Manny Pacquiao, easy fight, easy work, probably easier than the Marquez fight".
So, who needs extra tests virtually nobody else takes if you're potential opponent is such an easy task?
And no, Floyd has never been randomly tested. He knew he would be tested during training camp. Knowing the time frame in which one is to be tested is not random at all. You can scream and shout about cut off dates all you want,
but random testing is year round.
Floyd isn't doing that and never will.
Manny, nor anyone else,
has to take any tests that aren't required by the commissions.
So, while you come here everyday and cry about Manny Pacquiao,
the rest of the world knows Floyd Mayweather is nothing but a s hit talking p ussy.
Let's entertain that thought.
Say Floyd knew.
Manny wouldn't know when both of their cutoff's were then?
Only Floyd would know but not Manny?
Say Floyd did know and Manny didn't.
Would that change the cutoff dates of Floyd and Manny?
Would the small amount of blood taken make a difference?
Would Floyd NOT seem suspect if his cutoff was waaay before Manny's?
Would it really matter if Manny was tested a few days after Floyd?
Does blood testing really make professional athletes in a blood sport "weak"?
Floyd's taken the tests.
Manny's had all the time in the world to take them on his OWN and prove he's clean with all the time in the world to "recover" and make everyone including the Mayweather's look like fools for not believing him. But he hasn't. And he won't. Because he's juicing to the gills while draining defeated and even older fighters. Like it or not. Deal with it.
Do you think they should consider testing hair? Floyd can get his peace of mind with as many random visits as the testers require and pac can have his with it not being blood.
Then we can all have the fight we've been waiting for.
win/win no?
Let's entertain that thought.
Say Floyd knew.
Manny wouldn't know when both of their cutoff's were then?
Only Floyd would know but not Manny?
Say Floyd did know and Manny didn't.
Would that change the cutoff dates of Floyd and Manny?
Would the small amount of blood taken make a difference?
Would Floyd NOT seem suspect if his cutoff was waaay before Manny's?
Would it really matter if Manny was tested a few days after Floyd?
Does blood testing really make professional athletes in a blood sport "weak"?
Floyd's taken the tests.
Manny's had all the time in the world to take them on his OWN and prove he's clean with all the time in the world to "recover" and make everyone including the Mayweather's look like fools for not believing him. But he hasn't. And he won't. Because he's juicing to the gills while draining defeated and even older fighters. Like it or not. Deal with it.
lets stop fukkin around and get to the bottomline.....floyd fought 40 of his 41 fights without needing OST....he never had the problem with the commision testing til he was going to fight pac, why cant he like everyone else who fought pac be ok with commsion testing ?......
One of Manny's blood tests was conveiniently "lost" and he had to re-take the test.
Floyd was randomly tested. 18 day cutoff? Floyd nor Mosely got to choose the cutoff date. If there was a cutoff, why is Pac worried? Because he won't KNOW when the cutoff will be.
Prove Floyd KNEW when the cutoff was. Floyd still took the test. Manny hasn't.
Manny will be running to Singapore as SOON as the Mosely farce is over and he feels Floyd is returning. But I'm sure Floyd will conveniently be viewed as "returning" as soon as Manny's run out of the country signed to fight the next Top Rank signed, coming off losses, weight drained, looking for a last big payday, ready to retire fighter.
prove he did'nt....
add the fact the floyd has always been injury prone
Steroid use causes brittle bones. I covered the entire topic about Floyds PED use here.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=447917
Look at the time Floyd retired,
when Balco and Shane Mosley were linked.
Coincidence?
Hardly.
Floyd Mayweather Sr. - "I know someone in the industry whos been doping for years, but I'm not gonna say who".
He was talking about his own son.
With all the roid rage episodes Floyd seems to be going through, it makes sense to me..
Yet "clean" Manny hasn't tested yet and Floyd has.
Floyd is going to test right along with Manny. 18 day cutoff or not.
Manny is afraid of unknown cutoff's. Deal with it.
Do you think they should consider testing hair? Floyd can get his peace of mind with as many random visits as the testers require and pac can have his with it not being blood.
Then we can all have the fight we've been waiting for.
win/win no?
Look at the time Floyd retired,
when Balco and Shane Mosley were linked.
Coincidence?
Hardly.
Floyd Mayweather Sr. - "I know someone in the industry whos been doping for years, but I'm not gonna say who".
He was talking about his own son.
add the fact the floyd has always been injury prone
Yet "clean" Manny hasn't tested yet and Floyd has.
Floyd is going to test right along with Manny. 18 day cutoff or not.
Manny is afraid of unknown cutoff's. Deal with it.
Manny has tested for the commission in every one of his fights, and tested clean.
Under those same commissions,
many other fighters have been caught.
Under the Floyd commission, in which an agency was selected by Floyd himself,
he has never randomly tested.
He knew the time frame in which he was to be tested, training camp.
Now go make another 15 threads about Manny tonight because it burns your soul that the entire world, save a few hundred Floyd stans,
sees Manny as willing to make the fight happen while the other guy is viewed as a p ussy.
i still laugh at the fact people are deadset Pac is on something cause of Floyd Sr, lmao!
no court leaks, no drug test leaks.
from a crackhead we heard.
our society is in serious trouble holding a guy like Floyd Srs word. really introuble.
They'd rather believe a crackhead than use their common sense. But then hatred and jealousy can get the better of some peeps.
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Look at the timeline for when Bonds/Jones etc were using Balco supps. They didn't get found out until much later.
Look at the time Floyd retired,
when Balco and Shane Mosley were linked.
Coincidence?
Hardly.
Floyd Mayweather Sr. - "I know someone in the industry whos been doping for years, but I'm not gonna say who".
He was talking about his own son.