Mannys not on steroids..differance between him and floyd moving up in weight

Let me begin by pointing out that your statements have not proven that Manny Pacquaio is not or has not taken steroids while moving up in weight. Selection of styles and slower opponents creates better accuracy. I think the better technique comment is way off base unless you are comparing Manny to Hatton or Diaz. Is Manny faster than Marquez, De La Hoya, Cotto, and Clottey? Yes, but does he have better technique? I do not think so. Manny is athletic, unorthodox, and fast, but not very technical. And please stop giving excuses to why Manny has not agreed to testing. He and his team have given plenty, and none with your suggested claim in their first 5 excuses. Lastly, your final paragraph was just a bunch of of BS. Either you want the fight to happen or your don't. This is not about understanding. The facts are the facts. Stick to them. Floyd accepted their requests and Manny will not accept Floyd's request. There is article after article proving who is holding up this fight. thanks for repeating exactly what i said

but manny is better than ali! He can demand the world!!!! Floyd does not run boxing who is he to demand a test hes never demanded b4? He ducked marg cotto and now pac! Gayweather is a joke!!!!! I dont believe people like this exist.

Floyd never cut weight to make weight,never blew up after a weight in..when he went up in weight he ate and lifted weights to gain weight Manny cut weight alot and you can see by his fight night weights plus look at the size of mannys fists..they are the size of middleweights plus mannys aggressive and offensive ,floyd isnt The reason floyds asking for tests is cause like everyone else we are amazed by his progress yes he does more damage at higher wieghts why? 1-better technigue 2-selection of styles 3-slower opponents 4-better accuracy floyd fights differant styles and has smaller,more brittle hands so it appears he dodnt carry his power with him why did manny turn down the test???its kinda like tupac turning down a a.i.d.s test when he was doing th poetic justice movie for the kissing scene with janet...he was insulted..should he just take the test and fight??yes...does he have a right to say no???yes..should floyd drop the test and fight??yes..does he have a right to request testing??yes Let me begin by pointing out that your statements have not proven that Manny Pacquaio is not or has not taken steroids while moving up in weight. Selection of styles and slower opponents creates better accuracy. I think the better technique comment is way off base unless you are comparing Manny to Hatton or Diaz. Is Manny faster than Marquez, De La Hoya, Cotto, and Clottey? Yes, but does he have better technique? I do not think so. Manny is athletic, unorthodox, and fast, but not very technical. And please stop giving excuses to why Manny has not agreed to testing. He and his team have given plenty, and none with your suggested claim in their first 5 excuses. Lastly, your final paragraph was just a bunch of of BS. Either you want the fight to happen or your don't. This is not about understanding. The facts are the facts. Stick to them. Floyd accepted their requests and Manny will not accept Floyd's request. There is article after article proving who is holding up this fight.

agree there was a time men actually stood for something..these days peoples character are soley based on what ever trend is hot.... I thought you were fed up with all of these threads about Manny and Floyd, why have you made another one?

I just saw that movie on fuze yesterday ... 2pac was a lion- I wish we had more men like him, that stand up for what they believe in instead of just conforming to everything. agree there was a time men actually stood for something..these days peoples character are soley based on what ever trend is hot....

Floyd never cut weight to make weight,never blew up after a weight in..when he went up in weight he ate and lifted weights to gain weight Manny cut weight alot and you can see by his fight night weights plus look at the size of mannys fists..they are the size of middleweights plus mannys aggressive and offensive ,floyd isnt The reason floyds asking for tests is cause like everyone else we are amazed by his progress yes he does more damage at higher wieghts why? 1-better technigue 2-selection of styles 3-slower opponents 4-better accuracy floyd fights differant styles and has smaller,more brittle hands so it appears he dodnt carry his power with him why did manny turn down the test???its kinda like tupac turning down a a.i.d.s test when he was doing th poetic justice movie for the kissing scene with janet...he was insulted..should he just take the test and fight??yes...does he have a right to say no???yes..should floyd drop the test and fight??yes..does he have a right to request testing??yes a floyd fan with actual sense. keep up the good work.

This thread shows me alot of posters are too emotional invested in fighters here..so much it clouds your common sense..you actually ignore the obvious so that it fits your agenda..some posters even called me a pactard??me??lol..and alot of manny fans on here are to far to the left and refuse to look at commonsense.....ive learned thru my years here to just appreciate the sport..no 1 fighter is above the sport and everyone,sometimes is always wrong..no 1 is perfect,,,,,,,,pactards+flomos=the same-refusing to give the other fighter any damn credit acting like they arnt the 2 best fighters in the world..sad...i appreciate both cause they are dedicated to their craft and i actually train in boxing and try to emulate both..floyds defense and counter punching,and mannys head movement,footwork and aggression..if you can put these to fighters styles together you have a perfect fighter

the deal was zero days cut off after our god turned down the 14 days king pac asked for. zero days sounds fine. if not, im worried if pac is juicing fool! zero days or 7 days testing will stop 2 weeks prior to the fight! :lol1:

If he was insulted THAT much my dude, he would have NEVER even talked to Mayweather's camp about the fight. He would have just filed that lawsuit that he filed. If I was insulted THAT much, I would have knocked Floyd's head off and got paid in the process. I agree because that's what I would have done. Yes, and you two are also the current #1 P4P with millions sitting in your bank accounts with ego higher than Everest. Everybody thinks like you do. Please.

If he was insulted THAT much my dude, he would have NEVER even talked to Mayweather's camp about the fight. He would have just filed that lawsuit that he filed. If I was insulted THAT much, I would have knocked Floyd's head off and got paid in the process. Floyd claims Manny to be one-dimensional, no defense, come-forward-face-first, predictable, easy-fight with 5 inches shorter reach and 3 inches shorter in height asian midget, but when it's time to sign the contract Floyd suddenly asked for a stricter PEDs test, are'nt you gonna be insulted by that??!!! Manny was already hyped and ready to fight a big challenge in Floyd, Manny knows there's a big possibility that he will loose this fight and yet Floyd insulted him by accussing Manny of cheating...

but manny is better than ali! He can demand the world!!!! Floyd does not run boxing who is he to demand a test hes never demanded b4? He ducked marg cotto and now pac! Gayweather is a joke!!!!! Thanks for admitting the truth that mayweather is a joke.

bwahaha. you cant be SERIOUS. please tell me you are joking. Ring size, 8oz gloves 25% of fighters purse for coming in over weight whats not serious?

Are Pacquiao fans really this hypocritical and stupid? If anybody is fighting the other's leftovers it's Pacquiao, he became the attraction he is by beating Hatton and Oscar (two guys Floyd had already beaten) and know he's going for Shane Mosley who only managed to win a round against Floyd. And I would hardly call JMM Pacquiao's leftover, the guy arguably beat Pac twice. If anyone is fighting leftovers, its Floyd. He only became known because of Oscar. Shane beat Oscar way back. As did Tito and Bernard. In regards to Shane, Floyd fought Vernon and Winkys leftovers. In regards to Hatton, Floyd never beat him at 140. If anyone beat Hatton first at 147, it was Collazo. You might want to brush up on your leftovers history.

I agree, the flame e wars are tiring I refuse to argue about PED's anymore. Both fighters have their reasons unfortunately we the fans lose out. Do you agree that what manny demanded was standard by NASC and what floyd demanded wasn't?

Floyd never cut weight to make weight,never blew up after a weight in..when he went up in weight he ate and lifted weights to gain weight Manny cut weight alot and you can see by his fight night weights plus look at the size of mannys fists..they are the size of middleweights plus mannys aggressive and offensive ,floyd isnt The reason floyds asking for tests is cause like everyone else we are amazed by his progress yes he does more damage at higher wieghts why? 1-better technigue 2-selection of styles 3-slower opponents 4-better accuracy floyd fights differant styles and has smaller,more brittle hands so it appears he dodnt carry his power with him why did manny turn down the test???its kinda like tupac turning down a a.i.d.s test when he was doing th poetic justice movie for the kissing scene with janet...he was insulted..should he just take the test and fight??yes...does he have a right to say no???yes..should floyd drop the test and fight??yes..does he have a right to request testing??yes I agree, the flame e wars are tiring I refuse to argue about PED's anymore. Both fighters have their reasons unfortunately we the fans lose out.

I find the idea of $10,000,000 per pound over 147 pretty insulting, but Floyd accepted that. How is this insulting? Pac asked for something that is standard by NSAC. Floyd was to make 50 mill on the fight so 25% is about right. http://leg.state.nv.us/NAC/NAC-467.html#NAC467Sec522 NAC 467.522 Forfeiture for failure to make weight. (NRS 467.030) 1. An unarmed combatant who fails to make the weight agreed upon in his bout ageement forfeits: (a) Twenty-five percent of his purse if no lesser amount is set by the Commission's representative; or (b) A lesser amount set by the Executive Director and approved by the Commission

I find the idea of $10,000,000 per pound over 147 pretty insulting, but Floyd accepted that. why wouldnt he accept? he cheated on the scales with JMM :lol1:

Floyd was fighting at 106 in the golden gloves when he was 15/16 years old. The same age and weight Manny turned pro. Exactly! I guess this means Floyd is using PEDs too

Are Pacquiao fans really this hypocritical and stupid? If anybody is fighting the other's leftovers it's Pacquiao, he became the attraction he is by beating Hatton and Oscar (two guys Floyd had already beaten) and know he's going for Shane Mosley who only managed to win a round against Floyd. And I would hardly call JMM Pacquiao's leftover, the guy arguably beat Pac twice. LOL! Pac fought Oscar and Hatton to show Floyd how to do the job. Pac sent both into retirement in which Floyd can't say the same! Now Shane is next, so Floyd better sit and relax watch out Pac send Mosley into retirement.

Pac recently offered Floyd 7 days cut-off in which 100x more reasonable than 19 days cut-off when Floyd fought Shane but still Floyd nowhere to be found. In which I can't help scratching my head.:thinking: