...or not lose in the supersix at all.
Abraham is the only fighter representing a challenge to Ward's skills. Ward likes to go (head first) on the inside most often and doing damage at close range. That tactic bears the risk of an encounter with an abrahammer that will doom Ward's suspect chin.
So far Abraham's blueprint of defeat is to stay on the outside and work hard with the jab and hook to the body.
So far we haven't seen Ward being able to do that. Not even against Sakio Bika where Ward also went inside despite knowing that Bute and Calzaghe was more succesful from the outside.
I just watched fight camp and it included Froch V Abraham
Christ, Abraham made it easy for Froch.
Do you have a link for Fight Camp please?
Or if anyone else does could I have it please?
Right. AA knows little about infighting. But the key for AA is to time Ward as he comes crashing in and then tie him up.Abraham doesn't have the skill set necessary to tie Ward up on the inside. Depending on the referee, I see Ward doing a lot of work to Abraham's body with a free hand during clinches, almost all of which Ward will initiate.
As for Abraham catching Ward on the way in, I personally don't see it. Kessler had a hell of a lot of difficulty landing much of anything on Ward, and Kessler has more facets to his offensive game than Abraham. How often do you see Abraham doing damage with short punches anyhow? Most of what he lands big are wide, looping hooks or straight right hands from range. Ward won't be rushing in to be hit. He's difficult to time, and I think will be even more so in this fight because Abraham is a fairly predictable pattern fighter.
...or not lose in the supersix at all.
Abraham is the only fighter representing a challenge to Ward's skills. Ward likes to go (head first) on the inside most often and doing damage at close range. That tactic bears the risk of an encounter with an abrahammer that will doom Ward's suspect chin.
So far Abraham's blueprint of defeat is to stay on the outside and work hard with the jab and hook to the body.
So far we haven't seen Ward being able to do that. Not even against Sakio Bika where Ward also went inside despite knowing that Bute and Calzaghe was more succesful from the outside.
lol?
hook to the body from the outside?
you cannot do that unless you're an octopus or a squid, or have stretch arms
the way to beat abraham is to pick spots that he doesn't want to work and score points (the entire first 8 rounds of the fight, and the first half of every round after 8)
move in and get your work done
and get out and away from his attacks when they actually come
jermain taylor, in his shot to **** glory, provided the blueprint to beat arthur abraham, until he got hit on the chin with punches he couldn't even take on the gloves he was so far gone
carl froch outboxed abraham in a clinic
he couldn't do a bit with froch's best cutie impression
he got outclassed!
what the hell is he going to do with a gold medalist and pure boxer who hasn't lost since he was 12 years old
dirrell's soft as a grape, but even he was man enough to beat the snot out of abraham for almost ten rounds
and if dirrell's shortcomings (mental weakness) didn't rear their ugly head he had put in the work to easily coast his way to a UD
ward is as mentally solid as any young fighter i've come across
dude is all the parts of a confident you want while remaining humble
and without any bit of the negative implications that come with confidence, like carelessness and lacking discipline
i'll take your bet, dude
straight up if odds if you think abraham's going to win
300 mil e-points?
confirm and i'll sig it
and for the record
you cant hook to the body from the outside
you just cant do it
you aren't outside if you're close enough to hook to the body
abraham is open for everything
he covers up and wont throw back
ward will have no time moving either in and out
or all the way in
or all the way out. it really doesn't matter
and grinding him down to an easy ud or late stoppage
Nonsense. Abraham can't fight inside. At all. He'll get beaten up inside, if that's where the fight is fought.
Right. AA knows little about infighting. But the key for AA is to time Ward as he comes crashing in and then tie him up.
I just watched fight camp and it included Froch V Abraham
Christ, Abraham made it easy for Froch.
I think Froch's power phazed Abraham. Froch repeatedly ripped in some punishing blows. Blows that was probably (likely) harder and more consistent than anything Abraham had ever tasted before, and that includes Miranda and Taylor.
If Ward goes inside, like he is used to do, Abraham will punish him.Nonsense. Abraham can't fight inside. At all. He'll get beaten up inside, if that's where the fight is fought.
What could also be real bad is if by the 4th Abraham is looking for one punch to win the fight. If he's putting all his stock in a single punch knockout by the early or mid rounds.. It's a recipe for Ward to pick him apart.
It's not very likely that AA can win on points, even though he led Jermain Taylor comfortably before the KO. It's fair to say that AA's chance against Ward is only that of a punchers. I think AA should work hard on the uppercut and the short hooks to try and time Ward as he rams to the inside.
He just need one shot though.
I dont think AA will be DQ'ed. I think it's more likely that he quits TBH.
What could also be real bad is if by the 4th Abraham is looking for one punch to win the fight. If he's putting all his stock in a single punch knockout by the early or mid rounds.. It's a recipe for Ward to pick him apart.
Well that obviously cannot be ruled out, but fortunately it's not Goosen's dishwasher who's the third man in the ring this time. Do you know the trackrecord of the referee? I have forgotten the name but he was Puerto Rican I think.
Considering where this fight is taking place and the heavy favorite, the ref may still be tempted to wash Goosen's dishes. I realize the fight isn't in Oakland, but it's a lot closer to Ward's hometown than Abraham's..
I think moving in and out will be very dangerous for Ward. Outside is definitely the best blueprint. I can see Ward doing a lot of that in close spinning and mugging. Anyone know how AA deals with being grappled? With his tremendous forearms and turtle defense I wonder if he can in fact be sucessfully wrestled.. It wouldn't be so crazy if this fight miraculously turns out to be a stylistic nightmare for Ward.
Abraham throws punches as if they are golden coins, can't see it.
I can see Abrahammer getting thrown out for getting nasty.
He just need one shot though.
I dont think AA will be DQ'ed. I think it's more likely that he quits TBH.
At this point AA is just a slugger. His boxing skills are not improving and his footwork is still terrible. If he catches ward on the chin he can end him but I see ward outboxing him easily.
PREDICTION:
Ward will give Abraham a nasty cut with a deliberate headbutt.
It will then go to the cards and Ward will win by TD.
Well that obviously cannot be ruled out, but fortunately it's not Goosen's dishwasher who's the third man in the ring this time. Do you know the trackrecord of the referee? I have forgotten the name but he was Puerto Rican I think.
PREDICTION:
Ward will give Abraham a nasty cut with a deliberate headbutt.
It will then go to the cards and Ward will win by TD.
For the love of god I hope this doesn't happen, but I can see it ending that way. When did this eras American fighters start all this clinching and butting? It's ugly and unbearable to watch. Ward/Bradley/berto
nah Ward is gonna win big his strength is inside outside mix Abraham needs range for his sig hooks, A.Ward will smother A.Abraham .It will be either C.Froch or Nobody
Nevertheless the blueprint of beating AA is to keep him on the outside so it remains to be seen if he can be beat from the inside as well.
Let's hope for a strict and fair referee so we can avoid a foulfest.
nah Ward is gonna win big his strength is inside outside mix Abraham needs range for his sig hooks, A.Ward will smother A.Abraham .It will be either C.Froch or Nobody
I don't think King Arthur has the tools to deal with a guy like Ward, Dirrell and Froch are both less versatile than Ward and were able to have their way.
Not a good sign.
Ward, I think, has way shorter reach, and has not shown the ability to dominate anyone from the outside AFAIK.
You forget that he dominated Kessler from the outside. I even thought he was going to fight all his Super 6 fights in the same way, but then he switched up to becoming more of an inside fighter. That's why he gets called versatile.
But then again he also dominated Mikkel on the inside too so I can see how you would overlook his brilliant outside fighting.
I'm not saying you are wrong, but from where do you know that Ward can box elite fighters and why didnt he do that against Bika?
1) The Olympics?
2) Either he couldnt or he didnt feel the need to. Regardless of which, Abraham isnt Bika and he cant force Ward into a streetfight.
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