Sweet Pea would own all your favourite fighters.
Especially the Congroidsman.
Are you refering to Pacquiao? The greatest fighter you ever seen but didn't have the courage to admit it?
Tim Bradley did what he had to do (headbutts aside) and it looked like Alexander was shadowboxing the whole night. Not a difficult at all fight for Bradley, I was rooting for Alexander, but he looked horrible tonight. I don't remember him landing a meaningful punch all night.
agree with your post except the last part.
i really cant see bradley getting anywhere near inside khan. he may be able to do it a few times but not enuff in 12 rounds. khan is huge n his jab n uppercut will deal with bradley very easily when he tries to come in close. i cant wait to see the stair down with bradley vs khan if it ever happens cus khan will have to get down to his knees to see eye to eye with bradley lol
I'm just saying based on their natural attributes, the inside game is the place for Bradley. IMO, tonight's version of Bradley was weak, slow, and he was swinging wildly. That being said, it was not his physical attributes that won him the fight, it was his heart and determination. Bradley doesn't look at fighting as earning a check....he comes off to me as a warrior, simple and plain...a grid iron warrior...old school if you will. In today's boxing world, I see a lot of talented boxers but they are often groomed for success as Alexander is and Khan. Khan impressed me in his fight with Maidana with his eagerness to engage and prove he was not afraid of the "puncher".
Stylistically...in theory, if Bradley could get on the inside, he would mess Khan up...not saying he would. I feel that outside of Pac, Khan has the most natural athletic talent in nearly division....aside from his star mentality, which takes away from his natural appeal IMO.
I disagree. He may have made the right choice for his physical health/well being, but he sure as hell didn't make the right choice in terms of his boxing career. That single act pretty much eliminated him in the discussion of future stars. In that decision he decided to be just another fighter when he could have been something more.
And no he wasn't taking that bad of a beating yet. The last knockdown wasn't even all that clean. It was a grazing blow to the body and he fell to the side. He got up, waved his hand indicating he didn't want anymore when he clearly could have continued. And let's not get into making excuses. Not very many people knew who Maidana even was before that Ortiz fight, so saying "we know" he is physically, mentally, or tougher than Ortiz is moot. The only thing that fight showed was that one fighter was for real while the other was not.
I didn't say "we know" Maidana was much better than Ortiz prior to the fight. So, that was a mis-quote.
I said that the fight proved who was mentally and physically superior. I think it was obvious who had more heart and other intangibles in that fight. I believe he was getting tagged alot and getting hurt and it was going to get real bad. Ortiz took the decision out of Maidana and the refs hands, which I think anger people more.
He trusted himself that he couldn't take much more and he left on his own accord. I guess I have a little respect for a guy who just admits (albeit indirectly) who was a better man that night.
Maidana weathered the early storm and took everything Ortiz could dish out, and Ortiz was beginning to take an epic beating. It was a little early, but projecting that fight out to the championship rounds in my mind ensured that Ortiz could have been seriously hurt. I think he too was sensing that he wouldn't be able to hang.
Maidana is tough and powerful. He gets stronger as the fight goes on (e.g. Kahn fight) and he proved that he was mentally and physically superior to Ortiz. It was getting ugly. Sometimes you have to trust what your body is telling you, and I think Ortiz made the right choice
I disagree. He may have made the right choice for his physical health/well being, but he sure as hell didn't make the right choice in terms of his boxing career. That single act pretty much eliminated him in the discussion of future stars. In that decision he decided to be just another fighter when he could have been something more.
And no he wasn't taking that bad of a beating yet. The last knockdown wasn't even all that clean. It was a grazing blow to the body and he fell to the side. He got up, waved his hand indicating he didn't want anymore when he clearly could have continued. And let's not get into making excuses. Not very many people knew who Maidana even was before that Ortiz fight, so saying "we know" he is physically, mentally, or tougher than Ortiz is moot. The only thing that fight showed was that one fighter was for real while the other was not.
I think there is a big difference between submission beatings, which can happen and quiting on a technicality If Devon went to the end and had lost w his eye falling apart , he still would win in some way. You win respect, something that is difficult to get, but easy to lose in boxing. Respect is what get you money in this sport not a Zero on your record.
In UFC people tap out rather than getting a severe injury. That still commands respect. the same applies to boxing. Just not when you are looking for a way out like tonight.
No way was the Ortiz quitting fiasco was justifiable. He had no reason to quit, he was winning the fight and just didn't want to take an ass beating.
Cotto on the other hand was already done in (with or without plaster) and was taking a beating that could have been potentially fatal. You can make an argument for Cotto's quitting but not Ortiz's in my opinion.
Maidana weathered the early storm and took everything Ortiz could dish out, and Ortiz was beginning to take an epic beating. It was a little early, but projecting that fight out to the championship rounds in my mind ensured that Ortiz could have been seriously hurt. I think he too was sensing that he wouldn't be able to hang.
Maidana is tough and powerful. He gets stronger as the fight goes on (e.g. Kahn fight) and he proved that he was mentally and physically superior to Ortiz. It was getting ugly. Sometimes you have to trust what your body is telling you, and I think Ortiz made the right choice
Look guys, it's about simle geometry. A smaller, short-armed guy needs to be on the inside to be successful. As seen tonight, When Bradley got on the inside, he completely shut Alexander down. Why, you ask? Because Alexander is a rangey fighter who uses his jab to measure out his straight left. When you take away his ability to use his natural advantages, he must adapt, Alexander doesn't know how to adapt....as I have said numerous times...not bragging but I knew if Bradley fought on the inside, he would dominate basically based on the fact that he is taking Alexander out of his game.
I was surprised that Bradley tried tried to box with Devon, he won primiarily on his aggression and will. Basically, he would do the same thing to Khan if fought entirely on the inside, Khan needs range to set up punches....If Bradley played his cards right, he could eat Khan up on the inside.
agree with your post except the last part.
i really cant see bradley getting anywhere near inside khan. he may be able to do it a few times but not enuff in 12 rounds. khan is huge n his jab n uppercut will deal with bradley very easily when he tries to come in close. i cant wait to see the stair down with bradley vs khan if it ever happens cus khan will have to get down to his knees to see eye to eye with bradley lol
Whatever happen to styles make fights? I mean these two just didn't match up stylistically. I would say that against different opposition you will likely get a better more interesting fight, but you can't predict that kind of stuff. You just gotta hope that a good fight happens. Regardless I am bias towards Bradley, but, Devon quit. I wanted the fight to end on a proper note. Maybe a Knock down to wake us up a bit. Styles make fights, and generally MOST southpaws against a traditional boxer will either be really exciting or a bore fest because no body wants to get caught or head butted. Quiting after getting dismantled via Cotto / Marg is at least understandable. A legit health risk, beaten into submission, tapping out as some might put it. This was quiting because there was a door and it was easier to walk thru it than it was to shut it, lock it and let fist decide.
floyd is the last great american fighter.
the fight today was an embarrassment to the sport of boxing.
i cant believe some ppl here say klitschko fights are boring, vitali vs arreola was 1000x better than what i have seen today from alex & bradley.
Yup. I haven't been so embarrassed in a long time.
WAHHHH MY EYE BURNS
cmon son you're a pro boxer. Clean the cut between rounds and go bang hands. Wtf is wrong with boxers these days? cintron jumping out of the cage, peterson fouling himself out etc man the **** up
hahahaha cintron the frog , jumping out of the cage hahaha
the more skilled fighter won tonight. bradley fought a diffrerent kind of fight tonight. the boy versatile he fought as the puncher. usallly he throwing punches after punches. in his last fight he was boxings
Its the manner in which he quit that is sad.
Quitting is a part of the game, however quitting like he did...just wow.
Quitting how Cotto or Ortiz did is what I believe justifiable...but this
No way was the Ortiz quitting fiasco was justifiable. He had no reason to quit, he was winning the fight and just didn't want to take an ass beating.
Cotto on the other hand was already done in (with or without plaster) and was taking a beating that could have been potentially fatal. You can make an argument for Cotto's quitting but not Ortiz's in my opinion.
looking forward for a great fight between Donaire - Montiel. For sure will be much much more better fight than this joke fight.... hahahaha... :boxing:
Look guys, it's about simle geometry. A smaller, short-armed guy needs to be on the inside to be successful. As seen tonight, When Bradley got on the inside, he completely shut Alexander down. Why, you ask? Because Alexander is a rangey fighter who uses his jab to measure out his straight left. When you take away his ability to use his natural advantages, he must adapt, Alexander doesn't know how to adapt....as I have said numerous times...not bragging but I knew if Bradley fought on the inside, he would dominate basically based on the fact that he is taking Alexander out of his game.
I was surprised that Bradley tried tried to box with Devon, he won primiarily on his aggression and will. Basically, he would do the same thing to Khan if fought entirely on the inside, Khan needs range to set up punches....If Bradley played his cards right, he could eat Khan up on the inside.
Look guys, it's about simple geometry. A smaller, short-armed guy needs to be on the inside to be successful. As seen tonight, When Bradley got on the inside, he completely shut Alexander down. Why, you ask? Because Alexander is a rangy fighter who uses his jab to measure out his straight left. When you take away his ability to use his natural advantages, he must adapt, Alexander doesn't know how to adapt....as I have said numerous times...not bragging but I knew if Bradley fought on the inside, he would dominate basically based on the fact that he is taking Alexander out of his game.
I was surprised that Bradley tried tried to box with Devon, he won primiarily on his aggression and will. Basically, he would do the same thing to Khan if fought entirely on the inside, Khan needs range to set up punches....If Bradley played his cards right, he could eat Khan up on the inside.
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