How pathetic is it??

When you say Adamek has no resume, I take it you are basing it on what he's done at Heavyweight? Right? Because that's not the case if you are talking overall. I agree it's hard to compare the Klits with other great heavyweights like Foreman and Ali. And even Holmes fought in a better era. They do get too much praise on here. Oh, he was referring to Adamek was he? In that case, I still disagree. Adamek is a quality fight, but it wouldn't be either Klits' defining fight by a long shot. In fact I'd say that Vitali's win over Sanders and Wlad's win over Chambers, Peter I, Chagaev and Ibragimov are marginally better, with the first Byrd win trumping them all.

the klits should come down to LHW and fight bad chad dawson

wouldnt mind seeing wlad v audley or wlad v holyfield Both have fought at an higher level than Chisora.

"Look at the history of boxing. Great fighters don’t dominate, they are in competitive fights.” - Manny Steward. I don't agree with that, and it's a pretty nonsensical thing for Steward to say, if I'm honest. Memorable fighters are in competitive fights, but if Wlad was struggling against the likes of Chagaev and Ibragimov how would that make him a better fighter than the one he is now? It would've made for more exciting fights, sure, and probably would have given people a more healthy respect for his competition and the division in general, but it would have said nothing positive about his skill level at all.

wheres naps???defend your post please

That the Klits are relying on a blown up cruiser with no resume to gain a modicum of respect hahaha. The Haye fight fell through...

please name one elite fighter thats they can fight right now...they are the elite fighters in their division..cant fault them cause the rest of the fighters lack dicapline That's my point. Read my op again. I'm not blaming the Klits for having bad opponents, I'm just saying that it's wrong to call them great when there are no elite opponents to judge them against. Yes, I'm not a Klit fan, that's obvious, but how can a fighter be considered great without a single elite win on the record?? Who has Haye beat? Sorry naps but you fail. He hasn't beaten anyone who is world class, I've NEVER claimed he has seriously. So please tell me why you mentioned Haye in this thread, it's nothing to do with the op???? (obsessed much?)

That the Klits are relying on a blown up cruiser with no resume to gain a modicum of respect hahaha. They're not relying on Haye (whom I assume you're talking about) to cement their legacy. That's something that Haye, his fans and the British boxing press have been trying to make people believe in order to hype themselves up and downplay both Klits' achievements. Wlad beating Byrd the first time is a better victory than any win over Haye. Byrd, if you'll recall, has wins over Holyfield, Vitali and a prime Tua. How can you be an ATG without A SINGLE WIN AGAINST AN ELITE FIGHTER???? Through longevity and dominance.

Adameks resume at HW still trumps David Hayes resume at HM.

That the Klits are relying on a blown up cruiser with no resume to gain a modicum of respect hahaha. The Klits may well be great fighters, but we will never know for sure, as NEITHER of them have a win against an elite fighter, even if one of them gets lucky and outpoints Haye. How can you be an ATG without A SINGLE WIN AGAINST AN ELITE FIGHTER???? When you say Adamek has no resume, I take it you are basing it on what he's done at Heavyweight? Right? Because that's not the case if you are talking overall. I agree it's hard to compare the Klits with other great heavyweights like Foreman and Ali. And even Holmes fought in a better era. They do get too much praise on here.

That the Klits are relying on a blown up cruiser with no resume to gain a modicum of respect hahaha. The Klits may well be great fighters, but we will never know for sure, as NEITHER of them have a win against an elite fighter, even if one of them gets lucky and outpoints Haye. How can you be an ATG without A SINGLE WIN AGAINST AN ELITE FIGHTER???? Define elite fighter. Does Mike Tyson have any wins against an "elite" fighter? Spinks? Faded Holmes? I don't know.. What can they do? They will fight anyone, and have beaten most contenders, some multiple times. All you can do is dominate. Not everyone can be lucky enough to fight in an era without overrated brits, and fat americans.

me mispelling words isnt anything new..lol..but you know what im trying to say You are trying to say that you are a ghey and Jambo rules. Ya dun know.

Dicapline is a must to become an elite fighter. :scared: me mispelling words isnt anything new..lol..but you know what im trying to say

theyve fought all the top fighters in their division..where you at naps??post who you'd like them to face other than haye??

Who is there exactly to fight?They cleared out the division already.adamek and haye matches are in the future.But its hard to get haye to sign anything and adamek is fighting some other heavys to get ready for a klit fight.

"Look at the history of boxing. Great fighters don’t dominate, they are in competitive fights.” - Manny Steward.

Adamek would be Wlad's best win and people think he is a top 10 all time HW. :lol1:

please name one elite fighter thats they can fight right now...they are the elite fighters in their division..cant fault them cause the rest of the fighters lack dicapline Dicapline is a must to become an elite fighter. :scared:

Who has Haye beat? Sorry naps but you fail.

please name one elite fighter thats they can fight right now...they are the elite fighters in their division..cant fault them cause the rest of the fighters lack dicapline