Yup the majority of the board is against Devon,saying he lost to Kotelnik & needs to rematch him & that he isn't #2 & whatever else they can muster.So,the question is if & when Devon beats Bradley,who then will ya'll claim as #1 at 140??Because quite frankly,a win over Bradley will be the best win on any 140 resume,prove different if U can,thanks.:boxing:
A win over Bradley, in my opinion, would be the best win in the division but...
Khan beating Malignaggi and Maidana is better than losing to Kotelnik and the beating Bradley.
I think Khan should be numer 1 if Devon manages to make that upset.
As far as the Manny talk, I meant those who are saying he is the greatest of all time, top 10 ATG or whatever high praises some are throwing out. If he loses they will definatly have to back track off of some of those comments.
Now with the raptors vs lakers comment.....lol.....that was me just using a hyperbole to make a point that just because you beat the best doesn't mean that you are the best.
FWIW I'm not hanging the Kotelnik fight over Alexander's head. I have seen several of his fights and I'm just not impressed at all with his abilities.
lol ok gotcha.. and by no means was I implying you were using the Kotelnik fight to hold anything against Alexander. Others are.
it's all good but who do you think is going to win tonight devon or bradley?at first i thought devon but the more ii thought about it the more i started to feel bradley was goin to win
i've got Bradley winning a clear decision/mid round KO. Based on both guy's last 3/4 fights. But there's definitely a high possibility of an upset. 65:35 bradley.
Can't wait to see the fight though - shame i'll have to wait till morning (UK)
in that case - apologies :grouphug:
it's all good but who do you think is going to win tonight devon or bradley?at first i thought devon but the more ii thought about it the more i started to feel bradley was goin to win
why is it that timothy bradley that has beatin every 140 fighter put in front of him and is still undefeated has to fight amir who only has 3 fights at 140 to prove he is the #1? and not to mention the amir got knocked out about 5 fights ago
well first off he got knocked out at 135.
So what if hes undefeated, beaten everyone in front of him etc. Khan has a comparable record to Bradley@140 and Maidana is better then anyone on Bradley resume.
For me Khan, Bradley and Alexander are in the top 3 spots but wouldn't put a number on each one. If you want to go by the ring rankings to make up your own mind, then so be it, i'll wait till the end on the mini tourny is over.
Somebody said 'around' 3:15am GMT -- I don't know the American conversion?
It may even be wrong.
Thanks man. I'm in Europe, so that'll be around 4.15 CET.
If he loses tonight it could be for different reasons other than he isn't as good as you - or others - thought he was. Maybe Alexander has a gameplan, maybe he's grown since his Kotelnik fight or maybe he's actually the better of the 2. Either way, Alexander has the tools to beat anyone at this weight class. He's had 1 bad showing against Kotelnik but are we always going to hang that over his head?
In another post you described this fight being similar to a Lakers/Raptors game and how if the Raptors were to win it wouldn't automatically mean they're better than the Lake Show. But Alexander is not the Raptors. He is more like the Spurs or Pistons(in the 04 Finals against LA). The majority of the people are picking Bradley(LA) but Alexander(Det) might just match up well enough to pull out the upset.
The Raptors/Lakers scenario you pointed out would equate more to a Buster Douglass/Mike Tyson type of fight, not this one. You clearly can not believe Alexander's talent is that of the Raptors in the NBA, can you?
As far as the Manny/Mosley thing goes. If Manny losses and gets dominated then this will go down in the "styles make fights" category. Maybe he's not as good against faster fighters who can take a punch and dish one out themselves. But to say Manny wouldn't be who we thought he was would be a foolish statement. His resume alone speaks for itself. If he were to lose to Mosely it would just be a devastating loss for him but one he can come back from.
At least that's my take on the 2 fights. Just wanted to see what you meant by your posts is all.
As far as the Manny talk, I meant those who are saying he is the greatest of all time, top 10 ATG or whatever high praises some are throwing out. If he loses they will definatly have to back track off of some of those comments.
Now with the raptors vs lakers comment.....lol.....that was me just using a hyperbole to make a point that just because you beat the best doesn't mean that you are the best.
FWIW I'm not hanging the Kotelnik fight over Alexander's head. I have seen several of his fights and I'm just not impressed at all with his abilities.
my man i was replyin to slick rick who said timothy is not #1 and to be #1 he has to beat khan so don't try to play me like i'm stupid because i don't agree with you
in that case - apologies :grouphug:
who cares what you said you were not the offical judge of the fight the offical judges had amir wining by a point which means they had it 6 rounds a piece.
urango wasn't a champion when devon beat him?was urango not looked at as this huge puncher just like maidana is looked at? so why is a maidna-khan fight a big deal but the alexdander- urango fight means nothing?
Idiot. 2 of the judges had khan winning by 3 points!
Even boxrec warriors could tell you that
Can somebody tell when Bradley and Alexander is supposed to enter the ring? In how many hours please. I'm desperate for some sleep before it starts. :dead:
Anybody???????
No, he's the #1 already. BUT if he wants to be LINEAL CHAMP then he has to beat Khan. Get it?
my man i was replyin to slick rick who said timothy is not #1 and to be #1 he has to beat khan so don't try to play me like i'm stupid because i don't agree with you
If a fighter defeats the number 1 ranked fighter...that fighter (winner) takes the number 1 spot...simple arithmetic!
So if Derek Chisora beats Wlad, that makes him no 1, yes?
i said khan won 7 rounds to 5 - read my post carefully
What had ortiz done to make him great? not much, apart from being a top guy.
You could say the same for all of Alexander's opponents too - what had urango ever done? What had anyone else ever done? That's my point, IT'S a new up and coming division
who cares what you said you were not the offical judge of the fight the offical judges had amir wining by a point which means they had it 6 rounds a piece.
urango wasn't a champion when devon beat him?was urango not looked at as this huge puncher just like maidana is looked at? so why is a maidna-khan fight a big deal but the alexdander- urango fight means nothing?
why is it that timothy bradley that has beatin every 140 fighter put in front of him and is still undefeated has to fight amir who only has 3 fights at 140 to prove he is the #1? and not to mention the amir got knocked out about 5 fights ago
No, he's the #1 already. BUT if he wants to be LINEAL CHAMP then he has to beat Khan. Get it?
maidana got dropped and than maidana pounded on amir in round 10 to make it a 10-8 round which makes the fight even again the point deduction is what made it a win for amir without the point deduction the fight ends up a draw.
what had ortiz done to make him so great?yea it was big win for maidana but it's somewhat overrated bein that victor never beat anyone of any significance
i said khan won 7 rounds to 5 - read my post carefully
What had ortiz done to make him great? not much, apart from being a top guy.
You could say the same for all of Alexander's opponents too - what had urango ever done? What had anyone else ever done? That's my point, IT'S a new up and coming division
Of course he wont be no.1, nor is Bradley, why do people keep on looking past this, the winner needs to fight Khan.
I know lots of people hate Khan but its simple, whoever wins out of Alexander/Bradley vs Khan then they can claim to be the no1 at 140.
why is it that timothy bradley that has beatin every 140 fighter put in front of him and is still undefeated has to fight amir who only has 3 fights at 140 to prove he is the #1? and not to mention the amir got knocked out about 5 fights ago