Manny Pacquaio = underrated one of the best counterpuncher?

as much as i can't stand him and his ped's use/cherrypicking, i'd say is probably the 3rd or 4th best counter puncher in the game. pacquiao is great counter puncher actually Floyd, Sergio, JMM? Then you have guys like Dawson, Ward, B-hop who are also pretty damn good counter punchers in their own right. I'm not knocking him because counter punching really is part of his game that doesn't get talked about enough(That's pretty much the book definition of underrated). 3rd or 4th best in the entire game is a stretch.

yea, yea, yea...lol@you accusing anyone of getting emotional. someone says something bad about your god, you come running in like the b1tch made captain-save a hoe that you are. lol :bottle::bottle::bottle: Did you say something about PAC? betta nothing or else! :haha:

saying a top fighter in boxing 'has no skills whatsoever' is a complete joke. Ive been saying that Abraham was almost all power and nothing else for a long time, but he obviously knows how to counterpunch, even though it doesnt really work well against top competition. you need to look closer. Pacquiao also freezes and covers up on the ropes with a generic guard without counter punchign for a while, which is why hes weak to lead uppercuts and body shots. want to call him unskilled as well? AA uses counter also, he's just too slow to catch his much faster opponent. What else can he do, behind that shell of is but wait to counter his opponent right?

bro, AA stops punching when getting punch, he hesitates...a counter puncher would atleast land a clean punch at froch's damn caveman style but AA never did...lol...he aint got no skillz whatsoever... saying a top fighter in boxing 'has no skills whatsoever' is a complete joke. Ive been saying that Abraham was almost all power and nothing else for a long time, but he obviously knows how to counterpunch, even though it doesnt really work well against top competition. you need to look closer. Pacquiao also freezes and covers up on the ropes with a generic guard without counter punchign for a while, which is why hes weak to lead uppercuts and body shots. want to call him unskilled as well?

LOL @ MAKING MARGARITO MISS, I actually lol'd at that - I mean its a bigger effort to make him connect really. The Cotto one was nice though, completely neutralized his jab.

yes he does, watch his fights more closely. not very good at it, but yes, he tries to counter with right hands when the opponent jabs. just doesnt work out against top opponents most the time, and he falls back to his basic wait behind his guard 2/3rds of the round and then flurry strategy. bro, AA stops punching when getting punch, he hesitates...a counter puncher would atleast land a clean punch at froch's damn caveman style but AA never did...lol...he aint got no skillz whatsoever...

omg i'm in the red on a boxing forum....i have no reason to live because fagg0t pactards red k me when i don't cup his balls like is gay ass fanbase....:bottle: man stfu you the whining and *****ing about it right now, so whats your point? keep your lady emotion in the downlow.

Pac is simply a brawler, nothing else

i disagree a lil bit...abraham dont know sh1t about counter punching !.... yes he does, watch his fights more closely. not very good at it, but yes, he tries to counter with right hands when the opponent jabs. just doesnt work out against top opponents most the time, and he falls back to his basic wait behind his guard 2/3rds of the round and then flurry strategy.

umm, mostly hes just got a counter right hook as the opponent coming in. nice punch, but thats mostly it and theres ways of preventing it. in reality every boxer uses counter punches, its a fundamental of boxing that everyone uses. I wouldnt say Pacquiao is particularly good at it, no more than anything else he does well. i disagree a lil bit...abraham dont know sh1t about counter punching !....

umm, mostly hes just got a counter right hook as the opponent coming in. nice punch, but thats mostly it and theres ways of preventing it. in reality every boxer uses counter punches, its a fundamental of boxing that everyone uses. I wouldnt say Pacquiao is particularly good at it, no more than anything else he does well.

Nice use of boxrec bro! But that's my opinion you don't agree fine. My object is to have a boxing conversation not start a flame war. I'm retired from all that pac/floyd e-bickering. Pac is not some counter specialist JMM already showed that. the only thing jmm showed is that he can hang with pac at 130, nothing else...above that he aint sh1t compared to pac...yes pac had only one fight at 135 but above that theres no way jmm could hang with the cottos , margos ,clotteys of the world.....and hatton, i would'nt favor jmm either.........

I agree Pacquiao is a top ten best counter puncher right now. His in and out style makes him even more lethal (look at Martinez). His foot work is second to none in my opinion. You look at Martinez (who I'm a big fan of) trip up now and then. You can even see Roy Jones in his prime go off balance sometimes (he had amazing foot work). Pacquiao never seems to be off balance, and always circles the right way. It just happens that he is a much better lead fighter than a counter puncher. Watch this Mosley fight I believe he will come in with a similar technique as in the Cotto, and Hoya fights (in and out + counters) Pacquiao prob. will counter Shane and turn him the first 4 rounds, and will then lay the onslaught ala Margarito once Shane gasses out.

1. this isn't your thread 2. take your respect and shove it up your mom's ass thats why you red, you so stupid! how the **** can you shove a respect into someone's ass! get a education!

as much as i can't stand him and his ped's use/cherrypicking, i'd say is probably the 3rd or 4th best counter puncher in the game. pacquiao is great counter puncher actually your red i dont respect your opinion. so bye.

Nice use of boxrec bro! But that's my opinion you don't agree fine. My object is to have a boxing conversation not start a flame war. I'm retired from all that pac/floyd e-bickering. Pac is not some counter specialist JMM already showed that. I also included the ring magazine bro. I know he is not like JMM as they have different fighting style but what I mean he counterpunch as well if he wants too.

And who they might be in Pacquiao 147 weight classes who is faster than him so he can't counterpunch? Pac already beat JMM twice while Floyd still in vacation his mind not in boxing anymore. If you look at listing on these websites who is top 10 welterweight fighters now a days who is faster than Pac or better. http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?sex=m&division=Welterweight http://www.ringtv.com/ratings/welterweight/ Nice use of boxrec bro! But that's my opinion you don't agree fine. My object is to have a boxing conversation not start a flame war. I'm retired from all that pac/floyd e-bickering. Pac is not some counter specialist JMM already showed that.

I would say Pac has decent counter punching but not underrated. The fighters you listed take punishment from everybody they fight. It's not hard to counter a guy waaaaaaay slower than you. Pac has good skills all around but his style is mainly come forward. And who they might be in Pacquiao 147 weight classes who is faster than him so he can't counterpunch? Pac already beat JMM twice while Floyd still in vacation and his mind currently not in boxing anymore. If you look at this listing in these websites who are their top 10 welterweight fighters, tell me who is fast enough for Pac that can't be counterpunch. Of course, you don't include those he already beat up. http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?sex=m&division=Welterweight http://www.ringtv.com/ratings/welterweight/

I would say Pac has decent counter punching but not underrated. The fighters you listed take punishment from everybody they fight. It's not hard to counter a guy waaaaaaay slower than you. Pac has good skills all around but his style is mainly come forward.

I agree he darts in and out. That's what makes him look like a counter puncher.