Yo Ricans...Tito's left hook was unholy

I meant going down as in just getting knocked down, not out. Trinidad weathered storms after being dropped and hurt multiple times, so I dont see him being stopped at that time against Mosley either. Cool I misunderstood…

Actually quite the opposite, I see Mosley going down in the championship rounds. Thing is with Mosley is when he hit 147 he fought more flat footed and opted to trade more and we know that is a recipe for disaster when fighting Tito. I meant going down as in just getting knocked down, not out. Trinidad weathered storms after being dropped and hurt multiple times, so I dont see him being stopped at that time against Mosley either.

I agree, that would have been great stuff! I definitely see Trinidad going down in the fight, but Trinidads power was immense and Mosley never had the most flawless defense. Actually quite the opposite, I see Mosley going down in the championship rounds. Thing is with Mosley is when he hit 147 he fought more flat footed and opted to trade more and we know that is a recipe for disaster when fighting Tito.

I really enjoyed when tito fought. I wished he would have fought mosley at 147 I agree, that would have been great stuff! I definitely see Trinidad going down in the fight, but Trinidads power was immense and Mosley never had the most flawless defense.

I really enjoyed when tito fought. I wished he would have fought mosley at 147

Va BoriKua - I never compared it to the Margarito incident. Thanks for typing out the interview though, good stuff.

This thread needs a vid at least tito highlight reels :wank::wank:

really beautiful, powerful left hook. He put all of his leverage behind it. It was a little wide sometimes, but when it hit, man, it was pain. Fast too. Its surprising watching Trinidad fight. He doesnt throw that many punches, yet it feels like hes putting immense pressure on the opponent. Rare skill he had.

Pinche lambe culos!! Like this has never been brought up before!! Stupid ass thread!!! damn man, u see......

KO DaVinci! :lol1:

He can't because it is a fact that the commission not only watched them being put on, they signed them off as approved! Nasim just wanted to play games by not being there, waiting til Tito's wraps were on, and then coming over and flexing his right to be present during the wrapping as per the rules. He then started playing little games about gauze etc. The same shtty game that was being played on Pacquaio by Robert Garcia when he fought Margarito. Little games.. NONE of Tito's victims ever looked like Billy Collins or Cotto after their fights with Tito. They just go knocked the fck out. Oh no? Did you see Mayorga's face after the fight? He looked like Tito beat the crap out of him with a baseball bat !

I saw alot of Tito''s fights. But in the fight with BHop, he looked different, with no power. I saw how he demolished Yory Boy, Vargas, Joppy. Just take a look at Mayorga's face after their bout. Come on, he got away in many of his fights. But he got caught with those illegal wraps in the BHop fight. He couldnt do **** to Hopkins,not even a scratch. Hopkins withstood all punches that Tito threw, the power was gone with those wraps. Brother Naaz said the hand wraps felt like casts. So, along with Margo, he was a cheater too!

As I quoted there, both Joppy and Vargas were advised to have someone in Trinidad's dressing room to check the wraps specifically, but neither did so. Just to be clear, I've no interest in arguing back and forth on this. This isn't a 'race thing', I'm not Mexican or Puerto Rican. I just believe in fair play. "There's no smoke without fire" as they say. Same here but IMO they did it more to mess with Tito's head. Joppy defense was horrible in that fight that he wasn't even blocking Tito's hook and Vargas has always proved that he was to brave for his chin. Putting more gauze and tape doesn't equal a brass knuckle. It has to fit in the glove and if you put too much you can't close your fist. Tape and gauze is to protect your knuckles.

Agreed man, it was like spring loaded. Automatic the way he delivered that hook. Brother y ese culote in your avatar?

As I quoted there, both Joppy and Vargas were advised to have someone in Trinidad's dressing room to check the wraps specifically, but neither did so. Just to be clear, I've no interest in arguing back and forth on this. This isn't a 'race thing', I'm not Mexican or Puerto Rican. I just believe in fair play. "There's no smoke without fire" as they say. But, when he fought against Vargas the wrappings were legal. The way he wrapped his hands were illegal in NY not Nevada. Tito and Vargas fought in Nevada. And, if it is true that both Vargas and Joppy were advise of that then why didn't they look into it? Or better yet why not mentioned right after the lost? But, to mention it after the Hopkins fight you don't find that strange? And, beneficial as an excuse as to why they lost?

If all those fighters before hand were advised to check the wraps don't you think they would had? As I quoted there, both Joppy and Vargas were advised to have someone in Trinidad's dressing room to check the wraps specifically, but neither did so. Just to be clear, I've no interest in arguing back and forth on this. This isn't a 'race thing', I'm not Mexican or Puerto Rican. I just believe in fair play. "There's no smoke without fire" as they say.

No Trinidad es una leyenda de el Boxeo. Mis respetos para Tito, nomas que el Puto 7mares fue a mi thread Y me offendio el puto, estodo, nada contra los Boricuas, mis respetos pero que 7mares chinge a su madre!! You created a stupid thread and I replied that it was lame, did it hurt your feelings that much?

"Brother Nazim and I were the first two from our camp to go in there and when we came in, they had one of Tito's hands already wrapped. Basically, the New York inspector, he was a Puerto Rican guy also, he said to us that he guaranteed that the hand-wraps were correct. That this was his job, he was doing it for many years and basically that he wasn't going to have him take it off. So it became an argument, we went back and forth." In most big fights, it is customary to have representatives of the rival camp on hand to witness the fighters' hands being prepared. According to Fisher, it was Trinidad's vaunted left that was already wrapped and ready to go. "Eventually, we had him send a superior and he came in and he told them that we had to be there (to see the hands wrapped), so he got mad at me and asked me to leave because there was only one supposed to be one representative. So I stayed there 'till they started cutting off the hand wraps and when they cut it off they needed 'the jaws of life' to get 'em off." So how exactly were Trinidad's hands wrapped? "They were basically layering his hand, he had gauze, tape, gauze, tape, gauze, tape — it was like four or five layers, in contrast to being a layer of gauze, with a knuckle pad which was gauze and then layers of tape. They had four of five layers of gauze and tape." So after threatening not to fight if they were made to re-wrap, Trinidad did just that, but not without a fuss. "We made them re-wrap," said Fisher. "That was first. Then they wrapped the hands the exact same way, that's when Brother Nazim was like, You can't do this, he's wrapping his hands wrong. It's too much gauze and tape that going to be on his hand.' That's when they called for my dad, my dad came in there and shared his thoughts on how it was wrong. "And the guy who was the inspector, he should be fired from the New York State Athletic Commission, because he was so biased. When my dad came to the dressing room, they went back and forth and the same guy, he told my dad, 'Well, you can wrap your fighters hands the exact same way I'm letting Tito wrap his, Tito's not going to change his wraps. My dad told him, 'Bernard's used to having his hands wrapped a certain way — the correct way." Eventually, the chief inspector of the NYSAC stepped in. "The chief inspector, he's a fair guy," states Fisher. "He told them that they had to follow the rules. I guess they've been getting away with this for so long that they didn't have to follow the rules, they thought. He made them. He enforced it." Vargas was one of many who saw this situation unfold on the pay-per-view telecast. "That made my laugh," admitted Vargas. "I tip my hat to Hopkins first, because he caught him and I loved what he said when the commentator said, 'Bernard, he's been doing this his whole career,' and he said, 'Yeah, but it doesn't make it right.'"

The day of the Felix Trinidad-Bernard Hopkins fight, members of Hopkins' team visited the Trinidad dressing room in normal boxing custom to watch the taping of Trinidad's hands before his gloves were placed on. The Hopkins camp, including trainer Bouie Fisher, noticed that Trinidad's hands were wrapped in an incorrect fashion, and threatened to cancel the fight unless they were wrapped correctly. The Chief Inspector of the NYSAC forced Trinidad's camp to re-wrap his hands in a correct fashion, which was not done correctly until it was attempted a third time. Before his bout with Trinidad, Fernando Vargas was forewarned to check Trinidad's hand wraps, and William Joppy was also warned of possible illegal taping by heavyweight boxer Hasim Rahman. During his prefight press conference with Jermain Taylor, Joppy said Trinidad was not deserving of Boxing Hall of Fame induction, claiming that Tito "brought a bat to a fist fight".The Hopkins hand wrapping incident would later lead to an investigative story by Max Boxing. Boxing trainers and opponents of Trinidad later claimed that the fashion of hand wrapping in Trinidad's hands gave the boxer the equivalent of brass knuckles. You wrote all this and the wrapping was another full roll of gauze and tape that went directly on the skin. This is the fact and I don't remeber Tito getting suspended or fined for it. If all those fighters before hand were advised to check the wraps don't you think they would had?

Joppy, who was visibly dazed after his fight against Trinidad, says that Trinidad's punches had an unnatural feeling to them. "I've been hit with good shots," Joppy told xxxxxxxxx.com. "But I was like, 'Damn! He ain't that strong!' I've been up against guys where they say, 'Man, this guy can hit, watch him,' And I've been hit by them and they could hit, but I could weather the storm. And I know he beefed up even more since he moved to middleweight, his father probably did something. His father loves him so much, that's his baby, so he has to give his son that extra advantage. They've been doing it his whole career." According to Joppy, all of Trinidad's past accomplishments are now tainted. "He's a cheat," Joppy said. "Before I heard about that, I was like,' I take my hat off to him. He's a great champion, he should go to the Hall of Fame'. But I can't give him that anymore, his whole record, he's 40-1 — it's nothing now. You can't do that anymore, he's cheating like a Panama Lewis." Fernando Vargas, current WBA 154-pound titlist, had faced Trinidad prior to 'Tito's' destruction of Joppy. In the aftermath of taking five knockdowns over 12 rounds at the hands of Trinidad, Vargas, according to many observers has not been the same fighter he was before facing the Puerto Rican superstar. "When I got hit," recalled Vargas. "I was like, 'did Mike Tyson just hit me or something?' I mean, I knew he was strong and everything but that was ridiculous. I couldn't believe what he was hitting me with." Vargas admits that his representatives 'dropped the ball' in not catching the infraction of Trinidad's wrapping like the Hopkins camp. "Next time, I'll definitely have someone in there who knows what they're doing in looking for that stuff," he said. Vargas declined to name who was in Trinidad's dressing room before their fight last December. But Vargas said that he was warned of such shenanigans in Trinidad's homeland on the press tour for 'Forces of Destruction.' "Somebody came up to me at the press conference in Puerto Rico," stated Vargas. "He was Puerto Rican and I don't know who he is, but I've seen him around many fights, he's affiliated with boxing. I don't know if he's a trainer, manager, whatever he might be. He said, 'Look, I'm Puerto Rican, but I don't like Trinidad's people. I'm gonna tell you guys, you better watch out for the way he wraps.' And I'm over here thinking, 'I mean, what can you do with your wraps?' Y'know what I'm saying? I didn't really pay it no mind and obviously we sent somebody in there who didn't know too much about wraps." Joppy himself is a bit miffed that his camp didn't catch the infraction and says that he was warned by a recognizable name. "Actually, Hasim Rahman, he came back to my dressing room and said, 'Go check the wraps, make sure you get somebody on that,' but I was so hyped up, ready to fight. I was like, 'It's alright, it's alright'. I never thought he'd be a cheat. I thought he was a professional, a fair and square type of guy. He's been cheating his whole career."