LOL @ Big Hands being mentioned like it matters!

Great points! Thank you for your knowledgeable post. No problem. :D

Also,yeah Liston did have huge hands,i think the only Champion with bigger hands is Valuev,but is Valuev known for his knockout power,speed or accuracy,no...... That is my point,Valuev has bigger hands than all the other heavyweights,but who would you pick as a bigger puncher,him or Vitali? Hand size alone doesn't always mean bigger puncher,although sometimes it can,but it's not wut it's cracked up to be IMHO Thing is, with guys like Valuev and Carnera you're essentially dealing with the products of a disease. They're fighters who are much larger than they were genetically designed to be as a result of pituitary gigantism, and can't be seen as entirely consistent with the normal flow of human development. Sufferers of acromegaly and gigantism often have disproportionately large hands and feet relative to their overall bone structure and musculature, as well as a whole host of other problems relating to coordination, balance etc. Not great traits for a boxer to have.

I don't know the physical reason behind it, or even if it's a factor at all, but an historically large number of heavy hitters also had abnormally large hands. Whether this is due to more weight in the fist (something which I think would be neglibile), less padding due to the glove having to stretch over a larger surface area, a denser overall bone structure of which the fist is merely the most visible element, or any number of other factors I have no idea. Certainly a person with a larger fist would also most likely have thicker and stronger bones in general, which can help with avoiding breaks or other injuries. It would also help stabilise the fist upon impact, which would enable the fighter to deliver a higher percentage of their power to the target. This is more important to power than speed, in my opinion. Look at someone like Marciano or Liston for example. Both guys were pretty slow of handspeed yet their fists just drove through their opponents as though they weren't there. Then look at Byrd who, whilst technically excellent and very fast, dissipated most of his power upon hitting the target. I certainly think that any truly heavy hitter requires a solid skeletal muscular framework behind them, and most every fighter I've seen with large hands was also extremely stocky and well built: Marciano, Liston, Abraham, Rahman etc. Of course, there are plenty of hard hitters with tiny fists relative to their height and weight, Tua for example, so it shouldn't be seen as that great a criterion in determining power. Great points! Thank you for your knowledgeable post.

I don't know the physical reason behind it, or even if it's a factor at all, but an historically large number of heavy hitters also had abnormally large hands. Whether this is due to more weight in the fist (something which I think would be neglibile), less padding due to the glove having to stretch over a larger surface area, a denser overall bone structure of which the fist is merely the most visible element, or any number of other factors I have no idea. Certainly a person with a larger fist would also most likely have thicker and stronger bones in general, which can help with avoiding breaks or other injuries. It would also help stabilise the fist upon impact, which would enable the fighter to deliver a higher percentage of their power to the target. This is more important to power than speed, in my opinion. Look at someone like Marciano or Liston for example. Both guys were pretty slow of handspeed yet their fists just drove through their opponents as though they weren't there. Then look at Byrd who, whilst technically excellent and very fast, dissipated most of his power upon hitting the target. I certainly think that any truly heavy hitter requires a solid skeletal muscular framework behind them, and most every fighter I've seen with large hands was also extremely stocky and well built: Marciano, Liston, Abraham, Rahman etc. Of course, there are plenty of hard hitters with tiny fists relative to their height and weight, Tua for example, so it shouldn't be seen as that great a criterion in determining power.

I agree with that, big hands don't amount to much of an advantage. I think there are more good boxers with more normal size hands. Just because there are not that many people with hands Listons size. And talent counts for a lot more then big hands lol. Liston had talent and big hands but the combination is rare. Thank you for your intelligent posts,you and i are in agreement than! :P

Also,yeah Liston did have huge hands,i think the only Champion with bigger hands is Valuev,but is Valuev known for his knockout power,speed or accuracy,no...... That is my point,Valuev has bigger hands than all the other heavyweights,but who would you pick as a bigger puncher,him or Vitali? Hand size alone doesn't always mean bigger puncher,although sometimes it can,but it's not wut it's cracked up to be IMHO I agree with that, big hands don't amount to much of an advantage. I think there are more good boxers with more normal size hands. Just because there are not that many people with hands Listons size. And talent counts for a lot more then big hands lol. Liston had talent and big hands, but the combination is rare.

If you're a keyboard warrior and/or couch potato boxing fan, don't post stuff like this. It just makes you look retarded. Or exposes your retardation. Bigger hands matters for a number of reasons. Bigger hands equals stronger bone structure, more muscle tissue, stronger wrists, more blood flow, just a number of medical reasons as to the benefits of bigger hands. Of course, if you're talking about "Mayweather with his hands or Wlad sized hands?" then you're retarded anyway and deserve to be shot. Ahh r u hurt,fatass? U must be dumb like Mayorga! I fought lots of tough guys who thought becuz they had bigger hands they could beat me,and i left them snoring! Your obviously the internet warrior neanderthol who had to be the first internet tuff guy and start insulting me on your keyboard LOL piss off,and wake up you narrow-minded meat head! :)

I don't know how they change a glove to fit a bigger hand these days. But thats how they used to do it according to Chuvalo when he was doing a show with Russ Amber. They might still have to spred the same weight of glove over a bigger hand. Maybe they have a better system now, so big hands are not such an advantage. Also,yeah Liston did have huge hands,i think the only Champion with bigger hands is Valuev,but is Valuev known for his knockout power,speed or accuracy,no...... That is my point,Valuev has bigger hands than all the other heavyweights,but who would you pick as a bigger puncher,him or Vitali? Hand size alone doesn't always mean bigger puncher,although sometimes it can,but it's not wut it's cracked up to be IMHO

LOL yeah,they were allowed to use smelling salts back than 2,today they call that cheating! Of course a glove with less padding would make punches feel harder!!?? I don't know how they change a glove to fit a bigger hand these days. But thats how they used to do it according to Chuvalo when he was doing a show with Russ Anber. They might still have to spred the same weight of glove over a bigger hand. Maybe they have a better system now, so big hands are not such an advantage.

I heard Chuvalo talking about Liston once. He said Liston was a devastating puncher and his punching was made all the more devastating by his hands, largest hands in boxing history. Chuvalo exsplained that they have to make special gloves to fit liston's hands with less padding. Because the gloves are bigger but still have to weigh the same amount. LOL yeah,they were allowed to use smelling salts back than 2,today they call that cheating! Of course a glove with less padding would make punches feel harder!!??

100% right. That is not true! Momentum in a punch is caused by SPEED not fist size, In fact i think if your hands were bigger,momentum could work against you,isn't that aerodynamically correct? If you think about fast sports cars,why do they make them sleek and smaller in the front,to cut the friction and make it faster and smoother while going at fast speeds! If momentum in a punch was simply caused by weight than a punch should be harder from a 500 pound fat guy,than let's say a Tyson........

I heard Chuvalo talking about Liston once. He said Liston was a devastating puncher and his punching was made all the more devastating by his hands, largest hands in boxing history. Chuvalo exsplained that they have to make special gloves to fit liston's hands with less padding. Because the gloves are bigger but still have to weigh the same amount.

it doesnt matter. there are two trains of thought on the size of fist thing anyway. 1. Large fist=more momentum behind the punch. 2. Small fist=the power is more concentrated into a small area. Its like hitting someone with a bat(large fist) or a knife(small fist). both hurt like hell, which one does more damage depends on how and where the punch lands. 100% right.

You seem to be making the assertion that big hands alone don't make you a threat, in which case you'd be right. Naturally, speed, skill and heart are far more important. All things being equal, however, I think that big hands/fists do make a difference. Would you rather get hit with a brick, or with a baseball? Equating large extremities with awkwardness or slowness is really stretching it, in my opinion. I remember commentators at the last summer Olympics saying that tall runners usually didn't sprint as fast as shorter runners. (A notion that bears some similarity to what you're saying.) Then came Usain Bolt (6'5"), who blew away all the old 100 meter dash records. Ni,it really isn't man? TBH Iget what your saying,and like Bolt,there are exceptions to every rule,but for the most part,it's true! Just like the big hands lol big hands alone don't mean your stronger or hit harder lol it just means your hands are bigger,period! There are guys with big hands who can hit hard,no doubt,but hand size alone definitely doesn't determine punching power! To make my point,lets go back and look at Primo Carnera,probably the first Heavyweight to be as big as todays heavyweights= Lewis,Klitschko etc I'm sure he had bigger hands than everyone else at heavyweight in his day,but he lost to all the smaller guys! People that are of much longer bone structure tend to be far more awkward than others not so tall! You could equate it back to sprinting and height,you could see how people who are taller should be able to make longer strides when running becuz of their length=Bolt! Than y aren't there any 7ft tall track-stars,naturally they could cover more ground than the 6ft tall guys,but except for the exceptions like a 6'5 Bolt,we generally see this notion to not be true! :P

So have i,but it doesn't really make THAT big a difference in an actual fight man! Like i said,how big were Tysons and Marciano's hands? Punching power is determed by speed and weight lol not hand size! The guys with big paws are usually slower and more akward in my experiences! I think size can make a difference in a fight,but the size of a mans heart and will is usually the only one that matters most,and like i said,speed kills,i haven't seen many guys with huge hands who have blazing speed! :P You seem to be making the assertion that big hands alone don't make you a threat, in which case you'd be right. Naturally, speed, skill and heart are far more important. All things being equal, however, I think that big hands/fists do make a difference. Would you rather get hit with a brick, or with a baseball? Equating large extremities with awkwardness or slowness is really stretching it, in my opinion. I remember commentators at the last summer Olympics saying that tall runners usually didn't sprint as fast as shorter runners. (A notion that bears some similarity to what you're saying.) Then came Usain Bolt (6'5"), who blew away all the old 100 meter dash records.

damn for the *** put in "saddo_boxing" without the underline

LOL ahh ok,i get it! I agree BTW :) Ive posted sexy pics of Cotto in underwear at weight-ins. he has some mean nuts, boy.(and since cotto is known to be a warrior and a good puncher I thought it fits) can you see this pic? http://www.***********.com/boxing_images/Marvin-Cordova-Cuauhtemoc-Vargas-Juan-Manuel-Lopez-Victor-Ortiz.jpg http://www.***********.com/boxing_images/Marvin-Cordova-Cuauhtemoc-Vargas-Juan-Manuel-Lopez-Victor-Ortiz.jpg its a good pic with 4 people posing. 2 of them are ortiz and juanma. they have the same fist-size even they are not in the same weight-class. both hits like a truck tho

damn, than its not funny. can you at least see my avatar? all i was trying to say it really doesnt matter about the size of someones fist, than the part with the pic comes:D:D LOL ahh ok,i get it! I agree BTW :)

It's just pictures of Cotto. just? youre such a homo :pat:

damn, than its not funny. can you at least see my avatar? all i was trying to say it really doesnt matter about the size of someones fist, than the part with the pic comes:D:D