MAYWEATHER-MOSLEY Second Round....What REALLY Happened?

He got caught with a big shot. Floyd leaves some openings in the first few rounds when he's working out his opponent, sometimes at this period he gets hit with some good shots. After he recovered from the 2nd big shot. He made an adjustment, and never got hit with it again. That's it really. It happens.

what's the point to this obvious thread?

LOL you seem butt hurt for some reason. JMM got outboxed and styled on by floyd. IF he was stronger, faster, taller, blah, blah, blah, so many damn excuses. Just give Floyd his damn respect or lace up a pair of gloves and get in the ring. It's pretty easy for arm chair warriors to call someone a *****. Yeah Pretty Much, Marquez is a great fighter but he would have lost to Mayweather at 130,135,140,AND 147 at no point in Marquez career would he would have been a problem for Mayweather.

The Opponents who really pushed Floyd to his limit were, In order: 1. Jose Luis Casitillo 2. Ricky Hatton 3. Augustus 4. Jesus Chavez 5. Shane Mosley 6. Zab Judah 7. Demarcus Corely 8. Oscar De la Hoya 9. Phillip N'dou 10. Carlos Hernandez In all of those fights, Mayweather defined his greatness by the adjustments he made, and the dominance he displayed. He is the class of his generation.

I take it you didn't watch the Mora fight? Learn some boxing homie no pun intended The guy who didn't know that Hopkins and Jones fought twice is now coaching people on Boxing knowledge?

I have read many people saying different things. The fight was fixed. Mosley gassed out. Mosley is only a 2-3 round fighter now. Just today, I saw Bernard Hopkins say that Mosley "surrendered" once Floyd weathered the storm. Let me preface by saying that Bernard Hopkins has more boxing knowledge in the gap between his teeth than I have in my whole body. But in this instance, I respectfully disagree. Hell, I disrespectfully disagree. Shane has never been more motivated for a fight in his life than he was for the Mayweather fight. Anyone you talk to would tell you he wanted it so bad. Maybe even TOO much. Here is what I saw, and what I think happened: Naazim Richardson had a plan to open up Floyd's guard. Remember, Floyd fights out of a modified Philly Shell, and Brother Naaz is a Philly trainer. The shell ain't no mystery to him. He has seen it plenty. BUT (and big "but") Naazim told Shane, 24/7 viewers and the world that those openings would close up quickly. ...and that is exactly what happened. So, SPECIFICALLY, Shane would throw to Floyd's body, knowing that Floyd (and most shell fighters) react to every punch thrown. Floyd's intent is to get hit by ZERO punches. He is defensively-oriented that way. So when Shane throws the bodyshot, Floyd reacts and Shane IMMEDIATELY fires the follow-up right hand bomb up top. Not even a one-two. More like a one- one point five!! Shane tried it in round 1 (0.40 of the video below) and swung and missed so hard that he fell off balance. He then did it again in round 2 (1:40) and LANDED it. Shane even tried it AGAIN (at 2:55) but Floyd had D'd up. Floyd got rocked by a hard, clean shot from one of the hardest p4p punchers of this generation. How hard does Shane hit? Shane knocked out Margarito with FAR fewer punches than Pacquiao (a great puncher) landed. So Floyd made TWO adjustments: 1: picked up his left hand, and carried it near his head 2: ignored the weak jab to his body After Floyd got past that rough patch, Shane AGAIN tried to throw that jab to the body. Floyd countered it with a hard two-piece upstairs. If you listen to every interview Shane gave after the fight, he tells you: Floyd made great adjustments. Neither Shane (nor Naaz) saw any other openings. In fact, if you listen to what Brother Naazim told Shane in the corner in the middle rounds, "Shane, you keep looking for that perfect shot. There is none". Here is round two. Shane didn't surrender. He merely couldn't RE-adjust after Floyd made his adjustments. @ 5:20, Shane explains that Floyd didn't "make the same mistake again" Thanks in advance for the discussion. GREAT THREAD! Great Analysis Great Argument Great Transition Arguments and Great job pointing out the facts as they were presented. Great Thread.

Its one thing to give up when u have no answers and another to give up becuz its fixed

http://i44.tinypic.com/rwi43c.gif Cant get enough of this clip here, This is one of the reasons i watch boxing, Pure skills/Ring generalship.

I think Mayweather standing in front of Mosley threw mosley off, He couldnt get extension on his arm especially with his right hand, And i think he was mentally affected when he saw how Mayweather took his best shot and was still there.

Mosley was tired during round 2, while Mayweather was rocked. Im sure Mayweather made some adjustments that certainly helped him dominate the rest of the fight, but Mosley was (amazingly) already gassed after that one attack. he showed his lack of stamina again in his next fight, where he threw a disgustingly low amount of punches. it was sad seeing Mosley doing an amateurish hand twirl and then throw a forced wild shot.

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Kept coming forward. Didn't say **** it like the Floyd fight yeah whatever...he kept coming forward against the great mora and got a draw:lol1:

That is the same damn Shane Ive seen since he moved to WW. He has always been jerky and tenative. The only difference was he fought the best of the best. Gettin punched in the face changes everybody's effectiveness. Dont get upset lil fella. i didn't really expect anything sensible from you but i still tried to make a conversation. i should have just ignored you...anyway that's what i'm gonna do that after this post.

From what I remember, Shane kept trying all the way through in the Mora fight. and what do you remember exactly? he kept trying what?

Brick this question is not just for you. But..........I wanna know why we havent noticed that just about all fighters punch count and accuracy go down against PBF. He makes every fighter hesitate. The same thing happened to Judah, Baldo, Oscar, Hatton and now Shane. None of these fighters are really that similar right? So I came to the conclusion that he may just be the best boxing has to offer. because floyd is a defensive fighter who likes to maintain a safe distance from his opponents. but against shane, floyd was there all night in front of him at a punch-length distance. it's not like shane chased floyd around the ring like baldomir did. in fact it was floyd who was backing up shane so there's no excuse for shane not to punch back. i wouldn't have been disappointed if i saw shane at least tried and swinging wildly at floyd and grossly missed but he never tried to fight back. he simply quit. in his prime he got figured out by forrest and absorbed the worst beating of his career but he was fighting hard till the very last round. same thing with his fights against winky. look i'm not just looking at how good floyd was in that fight like how you flomos love to jerk up on. floyd was good as expected. i'm also looking at how bad shane was. and i don't think it was just because of what floyd did to him. there's something missing in shane's game that night. he no longer have it. but don't you worry...i'm not taking anything away from floyd's victory. i'm not adding anything special to that win either...so don't you tell me about your conclusion because i simply don't care.

Well we know Floyd is not a devistating KO puncher. If you get caught slipping then he can knock you out. They say Floyd wouldnt be **** if he had to fight against Hearns, SRL, Duran and Hagler. I beg to differ. Could you imagine if all his fights had 3 more rounds? His KO percentage would probably be close to 90. doesn't matter, wifebeater doesn't throw enough punches

He knew he blew his one big chance and mentally folded. Just my opinion. Plus Floyd raised his game a couple of notches.

Those last ten rounds were an example of what I call beautiful punishment. My observation: 1. Floyd relaxed and he normally doesnt do that til he's got a man beat. 2. Floyd has great defense but I think his greatest skill is his ability to control punching distance. Many times when he landed Mosley just didnt think he could reach him. 3. He simply started makin Mosley pay for loading up and Like Bhop said "He surrendered". He wont be the last either. wifebeater was trying his hardest to stop mosley, but failed.

i've seen a lot of fighters who got figured out by their opponents, taken to school, can't adjust...whatever you wanna call it but most of them keep swinging...they did not stop punching even when it seems like there was no direction. but shane, he froze...he almost stop punching. after that 2nd round, i was expecting shane to come out of his corner smoking and charging like a bull but he did not. i agree with bhop...shane quit. he just doesn't have it anymore. as they say...the mind is willing but the body is weak. or perhaps, shane's mind got weak in that fight too. it's like a story straight out of a movie where they have his daughter kidnapped and will kill her if he doesn't drop the fight.

basically, floyd adjusted right away--shane couldn't time him anymore--because floyd timed shane's timing--just look at how floyd started feinting while walking shane down--he fought shane flat footed and used his upperbody movement to offset shane's aggression--floyd came in as a pressure fighter, but boxed--that's it--that's all he had to do--he wanted to walk shane down earlier in the fight--he felt him out--shane caught him and floyd tweaked his movements just a smidge and shane panicked, basically just started to try and survive the following rounds--hell, in round 2, shane started fighting jittery after floyd smothered him and took away his distance--just enough to keep shane guessing and then shane started fighting nervous--floyd dictated this fight, even after he got hit good--that's a rare skill--he had all basis covered--even when he was wobbled some--