I hear a lot of people complaining about Manny's catch-weights, which is fair enough as I'm not a fan of them myself. But the funny thing is, a lot of this is coming from Hopkins nuthuggers which is highly hypocritical. Hopkins fought at three catch-weights (one more than Manny!), the key difference being he was fighting guys smaller than him at unnatural weights. Is fighting Pavlik and Winky at 170 acceptable?
Floyd's groupies are spouting the same sh1te and their hero fought at a catch-weight against a bloated up LW and still failed to make weight. :no: Why is there a double standard? These same retarded Hopkins fans are calling Manny the "Catch-weight King" yet their midget beating idol has fought at more catch-weights. Logic defies these blind fanboys. :lol1:
just like pacroid whose career is based on fighting weight drain, fighters coming off loses whoa re stationary targets
Yep, he drained Cotto a full lb less than his previous weigh-in. And Margarito was obviously a corpse at 150lbs (165 on the night) :lol1:
just like pacroid whose career is based on fighting weight drain, fighters coming off loses whoa re stationary targetsFukk Pacquiao
Dunno what he has to do with midget beater being a ***** either.
Why would ODLH weight-drain himself over 7pounds.
ODLH weighed in at 145lbs. Check it on boxrec.
Manny is the catch-weight King. It's scarred his legacy, weakening his opponents like that.
What I don't understand is why he'd let Clottey weigh in at 147lbs, but he demanded Cotto fight at 145lbs. He obviously was trying to weaken a dangerous opponent like Cotto.
Then he fights Margarito at 150lbs. Why didn't he let ODLH fight at 150
Show me an article where it states ODLH requested to fight at 147. If I see it, I'll believe it and admit I was wrong.
You don't need to go on box rec to know that fight was at 147. Did you just started watching boxing a year ago?
Pac was coming up in weight you can't just jump from fighting once at 135 to 150. common sense homie. Then he went back down to 140 to fight Hatton then went back up to fight Cotto at 145 catchweight.
Pac only fought DLH at 147 to get his biggest payday. As a boxing fan you should be thanking him for fighting at WW at all for these past years.
Hopkins is a joke plain and simple. He has made a career of beating up little guys and he's called a legend for it.
Tito never won a round against a fighter considered elite above 154 (schooled by Winky, Hopkins and Jones)
Oscar got a gift decision against Felix Sturn, a fighter who pound for pound could not hold his strap.
Winky was a fat mess, a career 154 fighter 16lbs above his natural weight
Pavlik, the reigning MW king who got brought up 10lbs and didnt even rehydrate above 174lbs.
Hopkins has good wins over Johnson and Tarver but everyhing else on his record is vastly overrated.
He even tried to take Paul Williams up to 170lbs.
Roy Jones exposed Hopkins on radio by saying when they spoke Hopkins plan was to beat smaller beatable fighters to build his name.
Winky & Pavlik for B-Hop weren't for titles.
Hopkins aint fight for no title in those catchweights.
Umm, please try again. The Winky fight was for the most prestigious title in boxing. Surely much more of a sin than Manny fighting for WBO/WBC, no? :lol1:
Manny has fought 3 aswell.
1) ODLH at 145lbs.
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:lol1::lol1::lol1:
nope and I remember quite a few people criticizing Hopkins because of it calling his fight with Winky a Winkyweight title fight.
Yeah true, but there was nowhere near the outcry that there is for Pacquiao.
I hear a lot of people complaining about Manny's catch-weights, which is fair enough as I'm not a fan of them myself. But the funny thing is, a lot of this is coming from Hopkins nuthuggers which is highly hypocritical. Hopkins fought at three catch-weights (one more than Manny!), the key difference being he was fighting guys smaller than him at unnatural weights. Is fighting Pavlik and Winky at 170 acceptable?
Floyd's groupies are spouting the same sh1te and their hero fought at a catch-weight against a bloated up LW and still failed to make weight. :no: Why is there a double standard? These same retarded Hopkins fans are calling Manny the "Catch-weight King" yet their midget beating idol has fought at more catch-weights. Logic defies these blind fanboys. :lol1:
nope and I remember quite a few people criticizing Hopkins because of it calling his fight with Winky a Winkyweight title fight.
Why would ODLH weight-drain himself over 7pounds.
ODLH weighed in at 145lbs. Check it on boxrec.
Manny is the catch-weight King. It's scarred his legacy, weakening his opponents like that.
What I don't understand is why he'd let Clottey weigh in at 147lbs, but he demanded Cotto fight at 145lbs. He obviously was trying to weaken a dangerous opponent like Cotto.
Then he fights Margarito at 150lbs. Why didn't he let ODLH fight at 150
Show me an article where it states ODLH requested to fight at 147. If I see it, I'll believe it and admit I was wrong.
LOL
You just got pwned big time................
You thought that fight night weight is the agreed upon fight weight?
Manny has fought 3 aswell.
1) ODLH at 145lbs. To put this into perspective, Floyd fought him at 154lbs.
2) Cotto at 145lbs.
3) Margarito at 150lbs.
All in the space of 2 years.
please research before posting this.
ODLH pulled manny up to WW (147 limit) from LW, that's 2 divisions where manny only had ONE fight at LW yet.
the hard truth is, hopkins is a scaled down lightheavyweight who's been beating up on welters, jr. middles, and middles his whole career...his fans know it, yet offer up the most far flung excuses you ever want to hear
The IQ level here has dipped exponentially since I first started lurking a year or so ago.
Pacquiao brought Delahoya DOWN to 145?? :pat: You mean Pacquiao actually made Oscar Delahoya....boxing's golden egg and undisputed PPV king...concede to his demands? hahahah!!!
Delahoya brought Manny UP to WW thinking he'd have a chance against the much smaller man. Pac had several 130lb fights, and ONE lightweight (135lb) fight with David Diaz before Delahoya asked him to move up to 145. So barring the Diaz fight...and read this clearly now...
Delahoya brought Pacquiao up almost 15 lbs (weigh-in weight, not fight-night weight) thinking he'd impose his size on Manny. Huge mistake, as Roach hired Alex Ariza to make Pacquiao more muscular and heavier without losing too much speed.
Cotto.....weighed 146lbs for his fight with Clottey...and was awarded a friendly SD. He and his trainers said making 145 wasn't so tough.
I'm no Manny superfan, but I call it like it is. Catchweights have been around forever. Usually the smaller guy loses.
And all it proves, in the end, is that the old addage remains tried and true.....
STYLES MAKE FIGHTS! not weights
Why would ODLH weight-drain himself over 7pounds.
ODLH weighed in at 145lbs. Check it on boxrec.
Manny is the catch-weight King. It's scarred his legacy, weakening his opponents like that.
What I don't understand is why he'd let Clottey weigh in at 147lbs, but he demanded Cotto fight at 145lbs. He obviously was trying to weaken a dangerous opponent like Cotto.
Then he fights Margarito at 150lbs. Why didn't he let ODLH fight at 150
Show me an article where it states ODLH requested to fight at 147. If I see it, I'll believe it and admit I was wrong.
Everyone knows the fight was at 147, ive NEVER heard 145, ever.
ODLH doesnt take anyones demands being the top dog. Again, common knowledge he requested 147. Im not gonna dig up **** for someone who just started watched boxing and decides to make up all these lies.
ODLH was NOT at a catchweight. They fought at 147, requested at ODLH's request.
Why would ODLH weight-drain himself over 7pounds.
ODLH weighed in at 145lbs. Check it on boxrec.
Manny is the catch-weight King. It's scarred his legacy, weakening his opponents like that.
What I don't understand is why he'd let Clottey weigh in at 147lbs, but he demanded Cotto fight at 145lbs. He obviously was trying to weaken a dangerous opponent like Cotto.
Then he fights Margarito at 150lbs. Why didn't he let ODLH fight at 150
Show me an article where it states ODLH requested to fight at 147. If I see it, I'll believe it and admit I was wrong.
Manny has fought 3 aswell.
1) ODLH at 145lbs. To put this into perspective, Floyd fought him at 154lbs.
2) Cotto at 145lbs.
3) Margarito at 150lbs.
All in the space of 2 years.
ODLH was NOT at a catchweight. They fought at 147, requested at ODLH's request.
I hear a lot of people complaining about Manny's catch-weights, which is fair enough as I'm not a fan of them myself. But the funny thing is, a lot of this is coming from Hopkins nuthuggers which is highly hypocritical. Hopkins fought at three catch-weights (one more than Manny!), the key difference being he was fighting guys smaller than him at unnatural weights. Is fighting Pavlik and Winky at 170 acceptable?
Floyd's groupies are spouting the same sh1te and their hero fought at a catch-weight against a bloated up LW and still failed to make weight. :no: Why is there a double standard? These same retarded Hopkins fans are calling Manny the "Catch-weight King" yet their midget beating idol has fought at more catch-weights. Logic defies these blind fanboys. :lol1:
Manny has fought 3 aswell.
1) ODLH at 145lbs. To put this into perspective, Floyd fought him at 154lbs.
2) Cotto at 145lbs.
3) Margarito at 150lbs.
All in the space of 2 years.
Winky & Pavlik for B-Hop weren't for titles.Floyd-Marquez wasn't for titles.The Punisher-Martinez shouldn't have been at a catchweight.
But Ryann,the biggest farce in boxing in 2010was Pacman-Margarito at 150 for the title,don't act like it wasn't.