Would anyone actually suspect PAC of using PEDs if Mayweather Sr and Co. hadn't accus

Although Pac did not accept the useless OST Floyd invented in the first place. Why in the thousands of pro boxers out there and in his previous 40 fights why asked for a useless OST when he is about to fight someone who is an easy fight, one dimensional, no skills, etc..? Then you add these facts his dog taill tucking in his butt actions , his mind not in boxing anymore, went to vacation, denied negotiation, quite as dead, putting himself into legal troubles, piss off easily when someone mentioning Pac's name and many more. I mean its so obvious!

no not really all I asked was for Alibata to come back and admit he was wrong if I show him that this was indeed discussed prior to Floyd Sr bringing this up. Here's the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyXL1LLpQkQ

So you mean 16 pages of ranting, arguing, and no link to show for.. That kinda validates the argument of the TS, dont you think? no not really all I asked was for Alibata to come back and admit he was wrong if I show him that this was indeed discussed prior to Floyd Sr bringing this up.

So you mean 16 pages of ranting, arguing, and no link to show for.. That kinda validates the argument of the TS, dont you think? No, it doesn't. Just goes to show that people think that trees don't fall in the office since they aren't around to hear it. Stupid, really.

Um, no, because the guy that asked for it on the first page hasn't returned after he was addressed by a guy that will be posting it. So you mean 16 pages of ranting, arguing, and no link to show for.. That kinda validates the argument of the TS, dont you think?

So has anyone provided the link to any video, audio, article of any individual who accused Pac of steroids prior to May Sr...... Um, no, because the guy that asked for it on the first page hasn't returned after he was addressed by a guy that will be posting it.

So has anyone provided the link to any video, audio, article of any individual who accused Pac of steroids prior to May Sr......

Don't let the obvious get you down. One day you'll grow up, meet a girl, start a family and maybe even have kids who you'll have to advise not to follow any man. And you'll forget all about your long-lost obsession with Manny Pacquiao and the heartbreak when you realized that that there was something a little funny about everything that transpired. You don't have to admit it to me. But don't worry, it'll all pass. hahaa look whos giving me advice on life. Dude your the one with no girl and all day talks about peds and pac on boxing scene. Honestly get a life, accusing a man of peds with no proof is not what i call living. you got issues dude fix up.

wheres your proof. Thats like me saying your a homo without me ever seeing you. Your logic is so retarded. You are a moron and a wierdo. congratulations. Don't let the obvious get you down. One day you'll grow up, meet a girl, start a family and maybe even have kids who you'll have to advise not to follow any man. And you'll forget all about your long-lost obsession with Manny Pacquiao and the heartbreak when you realized that that there was something a little funny about everything that transpired. You don't have to admit it to me. But don't worry, it'll all pass.

How would you see it? Besides, there are people posting right in this thread that offered proof. But you don't want to ask them though, right? :lol1:. LOL @ hate. I don't hate Manny. He's a juicer. He isn't the first and he won't be the last. wheres your proof. Thats like me saying your a homo without me ever seeing you. Your logic is so retarded. You are a moron and a wierdo. congratulations.

Alibata how about you come here and give Eaner the green light to provide you with what you asked on the first page? However, part of the deal was that you would have to admit you were wrong once he provides it to you. Well, this thread may as well be closed now.

Point is, nobody from Team Pac ever asked that same question during negotiations. Anybody care to answer why? Second point is if the shoe were on the other foot, Pac fans would be hootin' and hollerin' that Floyd was ducking the tests.

eaner and imdazed OWNED pistolwhip and alibata hard in this thread. im a fan of this thread lol

Alibata how about you come here and give Eaner the green light to provide you with what you asked on the first page? However, part of the deal was that you would have to admit you were wrong once he provides it to you.

I criticize Manny because he deserves it, much like Floyd deserves the criticism that he has gotten. No fighter (or athlete for that matter) is above criticism. And, I would love to Manny and Floyd to fight with the drug testing in place. If he accepts it and they fight, I will be excited. I won't be as excited as I was before for this fight, but definitely happy if they get it done. The thing is, I'm not sure that will happen anytime soon. Especially with Manny fighting Shane in May. pac fights twice a year so he'll fight again after shane and before the year ends. with floyd's legal problems he will only be availabe to fight later this year imo. that and he has to declare if he's ready to fight again. he went on vacation...and whether he's done with it or not should only come from him. don't expect pac or anybody to wait for him.

i was never that critical of floyd that way you are with pac. that's actually the difference...i'm not a fanboy like you. i just want them to negotiate again that's all. it doesn't matter to me now who erred last time i'm not gonna dwell on that anymore. if you think pac lied last time then so be it. even if he lied a hundred times but eventually he accepts random blood testing and fights floyd, would you still be butthurt about it? I criticize Manny because he deserves it, much like Floyd deserves the criticism that he has gotten. No fighter (or athlete for that matter) is above criticism. And, I would love to Manny and Floyd to fight with the drug testing in place. If he accepts it and they fight, I will be excited. I won't be as excited as I was before for this fight, but definitely happy if they get it done. The thing is, I'm not sure that will happen anytime soon. Especially with Manny fighting Shane in May.

Now you believe that Fraud? i was never that critical of floyd that way you are with pac. that's actually the difference...i'm not a fanboy like you. i just want them to negotiate again that's all. it doesn't matter to me now who erred last time i'm not gonna dwell on that anymore. if you think pac lied last time then so be it. even if he lied a hundred times but eventually he accepts random blood testing and fights floyd, would you still be butthurt about it?

oh yeah...floyd said that. how ironic eh? even floyd believes pac will agree to his demand so there must be something happened in that 2nd negotiation that made floyd think pac will agree. your master has already moved on from that first negotiation unlike you and the other fanboys who are still stucked...or chose to be stucked. you want the fight to happen? you gotta be positive...or stay stucked and be negative like the fanboy that you are. Now you believe that Fraud? No problem. I'll take your word for it. Again, I don't know Alibata. He's not like me, obviously, who don't spend as much time as he is even when I have the time. He'll be back, I'm sure. I've been here long enough to know this is uncharacteristic of him. Anyways, the links gotta be good, man. :boxing: I don't know if he will show, guess we will have to see. It doesn't look like it.

Man, can you READ? Eaner said that he would post something WHEN Alibata agreed that he would admit he was wrong after he (Eaner) posted what he was going to post. Then, Alibata went awol. And, I am not an industry insider, so I don't wasn't a part of the press row discussions on this particular topic. No problem. I'll take your word for it. Again, I don't know Alibata. He's not like me, obviously, who don't spend as much time as he is even when I have the time. He'll be back, I'm sure. I've been here long enough to know this is uncharacteristic of him. Anyways, the links gotta be good, man. :boxing:

Closeminded? All I said was that Manny was better off rejected it all together than the patch work that he did. I think that is logical and a lot what came about it thereafter would not have occurred..either that or just accept the terms for the full testing. Actual, he did talk about blood testing in that little rant (he actually said that Manny was going to agree to it) and I only saw that non-sense one time. Go back and do your research.."fanboy"...YOU brick wall? :lol1: oh yeah...floyd said that. how ironic eh? even floyd believes pac will agree to his demand so there must be something happened in that 2nd negotiation that made floyd think pac will agree. your master has already moved on from that first negotiation unlike you and the other fanboys who are still stucked...or chose to be stucked. you want the fight to happen? you gotta be positive...or stay stucked and be negative like the fanboy that you are.