in his last fight vs katsidis he was a welterweight on fight night. he had to cut weight and during fight week i saw jmm wearing hoodies to sweat off extra weight he weighed in at 134 and hydrated to 145 so on fight night he was a welterweight at most.. and this time he didnt mess with no weights like he did vs floyd which was a big mistake people need to understand this. what jmm did for that training camp was a big mistake with the weights as he lost speed vs a guy who was already faster then him. if he were to fight at welterweight or jr welter he'd do just fine (with the weight) now with the styles of the different fighters at those weight classes is a different story.
Yes is a myth that he looks bad at WW. People only say that because Floyd whiped his aass for 12 rounds. Big deal, Floyd can make alota fighters look like shlt. It wasn't because JMM fought at WW, it was because Floyd is just that good.
he obviously had a high body fat % and lifted weights because he said so..either taco meat or protein shakes improve weight lifting results. for some reason i beleive he will give pacquiao fits now because hes naturally bigger. lets see how he carries the weight this time compared to when he fought floyd.
I knew it!!!! I was right all along yes!!!!
weights dont slow you down you dumb fuk..................
yes they do ask any boxer.. only the smaller weights keep your speed. even me i lifted weights a year ago and they made me slow period. i stopped lifting them and i got my speed back.boxers are NOT supposed to lift weights.. thats they do pullups dips pushups etc now get your info straight.
good thread ts..thats what ive been sayin for a long time....pac at ww( a148lbs)...and jmm at lw ( 145 lbs ) are prety much the same size....that is why it does'nt matter where this fight takes place....both will be similiar in size like they always have.....
moronic statement
comeback when you actually want to talk about the sport
he obviously had a high body fat % and lifted weights because he said so..either taco meat or protein shakes improve weight lifting results. for some reason i beleive he will give pacquiao fits now because hes naturally bigger. lets see how he carries the weight this time compared to when he fought floyd.
ok you right there.i agree. but i beleive the fact that JMM lifted weights it reduced his speed..and him now fighting at 144 hes more filled out you see the muscle tone he posses now rather last time he was bukled up with tacos and protein shakes
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ok you right there.i agree. but i beleive the fact that JMM lifted weights it reduced his speed..and him now fighting at 144 hes more filled out you see the muscle tone he posses now rather last time he was bukled up with tacos and protein shakes
moronic statement
comeback when you actually want to talk about the sport
you make no sense
if JMM was a welterweight like you state then why didn't he stay there in hopes of pursuing bigger named fighters in that division rather than go back down for essentially a Diaz rematch and a Katsidis fight? Surely a fight with say Andre Berto or Shane Mosley could have brought more money to him
and also when given a chance to take a tune up fight, where making weight is not an issue, why would he decide to come in at 138lbs, barely 3lbs over lightweight and 2lbs under Jr Welterweight rather than fight close to his Nov 12th contracted weight?
some of you need to stop dismissing the move up in weight as nothing. If it were nothing then JMM would have stayed at welter or jr welter rather than go back to lightweight
ok you right there.i agree. but i beleive the fact that JMM lifted weights it reduced his speed..and him now fighting at 144 hes more filled out you see the muscle tone he posses now rather last time he was bukled up with tacos and protein shakes
It is ignoant to believe can not fight at 140 or 147 just based on his performance with Mayweather who is the cream of the crop!! IMO hed do just find at 140 against anyone there, once there he can adjust for a while and then move to 147 and fight Malignaggi to start and then fight a good contender like collazo to test himself, after that face Berto if he is still at 147, Marquez is a very good fighter who deserves respect at any weight!!
relax no one is disrespecting him
some people are realistic with what they saw, a man who really had no business as a welter
and let's say you're right let's say he could have done well as a welter or jr welter
then why not stay there? surely there is more money to be made and bigger names than a Diaz rematch and a Katsidis fight right?
I mean jr welter is a hot division right?
JMM knows his limits so much so he went back down to lightweight immediately
too bad his fans don't
yes so wouldnt it be easier to fight closer to your walk around weight? like amir khan for instance moving up to 140 he didnt have to dehydrate himself.. i think at this age if jmm doesnt have to dehydrate himself so much he'd do even better.
you make no sense
if JMM was a welterweight like you state then why didn't he stay there in hopes of pursuing bigger named fighters in that division rather than go back down for essentially a Diaz rematch and a Katsidis fight? Surely a fight with say Andre Berto or Shane Mosley could have brought more money to him
and also when given a chance to take a tune up fight, where making weight is not an issue, why would he decide to come in at 138lbs, barely 3lbs over lightweight and 2lbs under Jr Welterweight rather than fight close to his Nov 12th contracted weight?
some of you need to stop dismissing the move up in weight as nothing. If it were nothing then JMM would have stayed at welter or jr welter rather than go back to lightweight
Very sensible, sir. Jmm comes in at ww fight nights. I think he didn't prepare appropriately for the floyd/jmm bout. He was fat at the middle when he showed up for that fight.
Jmm is a WELTERWEIGHT fight nights. You are right with your myth call.
thank you !
in his last fight vs katsidis he was a welterweight on fight night. he had to cut weight and during fight week i saw jmm wearing hoodies to sweat off extra weight he weighed in at 134 and hydrated to 145 so on fight night he was a welterweight at most.. and this time he didnt mess with no weights like he did vs floyd which was a big mistake people need to understand this. what jmm did for that training camp was a big mistake with the weights as he lost speed vs a guy who was already faster then him. if he were to fight at welterweight or jr welter he'd do just fine (with the weight) now with the styles of the different fighters at those weight classes is a different story.
Very sensible, sir. Jmm comes in at ww fight nights. I think he didn't prepare appropriately for the floyd/jmm bout. He was fat at the middle when he showed up for that fight.
Jmm is a WELTERWEIGHT fight nights. You are right with your myth call.
Not Every fighter moves through the weights like Manny Pacquaio. That guy is a freak. Juan is a dinosaur, the last thing he needs is to be slowing himself down with added weight, reducing the effect of his power, and fighting taller, stronger men.
thats what im saying amen ! lets see if he can prove it like lets not completely write him off because of that one night with mayweather. who was a stylistic nightmare for him.. beleive me ive never liked jmm till recently hes grabbed my interest i always hates his defense.. i never liked the look of a counterpuncher with bad defense but for him it makes up for exciting fights (despite the floyd fight in which he looked like garbage)
well, unless jmm dominates an elite level jr WW or convincingly defeats a top 10 WW, then it's safe to say jmm doesn't belong at WW.
It is ignoant to believe can not fight at 140 or 147 just based on his performance with Mayweather who is the cream of the crop!! IMO hed do just find at 140 against anyone there, once there he can adjust for a while and then move to 147 and fight Malignaggi to start and then fight a good contender like collazo to test himself, after that face Berto if he is still at 147, Marquez is a very good fighter who deserves respect at any weight!!
Wasn't a myth. JMM looked like shit as a WW and ought to know better than to kid himself again. Furthermore, his team shouldn't throw him to the wolves even if he's willing to try it himself.
It's no myth,against Floyd he couldn't even bring a punch higher that Floyd's shoulder,he usually weights in at 133 for a lightweight fight,he is too small for 147,he gets dropped by lightweights & he has no business above 135 period!!
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