Why do people think a pure boxer like Mayweather, can lose?

Don't be silly. Biased commentary created the illusion that Floyd lost. In reality he clearly won a competitive fight.

A pure boxer in Leonard lost to a fighter in Duran and got a gift decision with Hagler, a pure boxer in Whitaker lost to fighters like Dela Hoya and draws with Cesar Chavez, even Floyd got a gift decision against Castillo.. Pure boxers doesn't necesarilly have the upper hand even with pure fighters... Don't be silly. Biased commentary created the illusion that Floyd lost. In reality he clearly won a competitive fight.

Usually most BOXERS, always beat fighters. Why do people say he was scared of cotto? Lmao that's an easy victory A pure boxer in Leonard lost to a fighter in Duran and got a gift decision with Hagler, a pure boxer in Whitaker lost to fighters like Dela Hoya and draws with Cesar Chavez, even Floyd got a gift decision against Castillo.. Pure boxers doesn't necesarilly have the upper hand even with pure fighters...

Read the post again. I referred to both parts of his argument. The first being that any skilled inside fighter challenges Floyd. The second being that any skilled fighter with a good jab gives Floyd trouble. When I was referring to "one sided beatdowns" I meant his fights with Genaro Hernandez and Marquez. Two "skilled fighters with good jabs". I mentioned that Castillo won some rounds in the first part of the post. But not enough to win the fight. The biased commentary fooled alot of people into thinking Floyd lost the fight. If you watch it without the commentary then Mayweather wins every time. Regardless. Jose pushed Mayweather to a point that he had never been pushed before and wasn't push to again until DLH. Neither of those boxers were as talented and as skilled as Mayweather, yet they gave him fits. It just goes to assumption that a more skilled fighter using the same tactics would have similar if not greater success. Floyd Mayweather Jr. is great, but he's not God. Everyone can be beat.

Lineal Welterweight Champion = Not a threat? #1 Ranked Welterweight in Mosley = Not a threat? Pactards are so stupid it's absolutley astounding. I hope you are not talking about Baldomir? As for Mosley, just a couple of months after the fight, your friends, meaning Floyd fans, are tearing this forum apart to state how shot/old Mosley is. That is just a few months after the Floyd fight. Think about that. So if Mosley is shot/old now, it means, it was because he looked shot/old against Floyd and Mora. Right?

miguel cotto is not the CEO of his own company

His first fight with Jose Luis Castillo was not a one sided beatdown. In fact, many boxing experts think Floyd lost that fight. Read the post again. I referred to both parts of his argument. The first being that any skilled inside fighter challenges Floyd. The second being that any skilled fighter with a good jab gives Floyd trouble. When I was referring to "one sided beatdowns" I meant his fights with Genaro Hernandez and Marquez. Two "skilled fighters with good jabs". I mentioned that Castillo won some rounds in the first part of the post. But not enough to win the fight. The biased commentary fooled alot of people into thinking Floyd lost the fight. If you watch it without the commentary then Mayweather wins every time.

So why havent any of them beaten Mayweather? Skilled pressure fighter? Let's see, he beat : Diego Corrales, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo, Zab Judah, Carlos Baldomir and Ricky Hatton. All of them fit the description yet he beat all of them. And only Castillo was able to win some rounds. Outside boxer who uses the jab? Genaro Hernandez, Oscar De La Hoya, Juan Manuel Marquez and Shane Mosley. All of them fit the description. Yet somehow Mayweather dominated all of them. Only De La Hoya managed to win some rounds. The rest where one sided beatdowns. Your theory doesnt make sense! His first fight with Jose Luis Castillo was not a one sided beatdown. In fact, many boxing experts think Floyd lost that fight. PS. opsss my bad, I didn't read the post in its entirety. my apologies

Usually most BOXERS, always beat fighters. Why do people say he was scared of cotto? Lmao that's an easy victory stupid flomos... wifebeater jr doesn't get credit for winning fantasy fights. he actually has to fight them in the ring to get credit for beating them.

I'm guessing that you're a Marquez fan? :rolleyes: The relevance?

Actually he doesn't need space to fight on the inside Mayweather is better than Pacquiao. I'm guessing that you're a Marquez fan? :rolleyes:

So why havent any of them beaten Mayweather? I've explained that. Giving Mayweather problems does not mean that you are guaranteed to beat him. Mayweather has fought 41 times, of those 41 he's won 41, though there are controversial wins in there. So what though? That means he was the btter fighter on a given night. Jose Luis Castillo deserved a victory and didn't get it, for me, but even if you don't believe that you know that he gave a prime Mayweather hell. Skilled pressure fighter? Let's see, he beat : Diego Corrales, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo, Zab Judah, Carlos Baldomir and Ricky Hatton. Of those, I would define only one of them as having used a really skilled pressure fighter's game plan. Diego Corrales, pfft. He had no skill and was a drunk. Never liked Corrales. Who cares? Carlos Hernandez, got beat by Bobby Pacquiao. Speaks for itself, doesn't it? Jesus Chavez, not on the same level of skill as Mayweather, but his style gave Floyd some problems. Again, just not skilled enough Zab Judah, not even close to being a pressure fighter. What are you talking about? Carlos Baldomir, no power, no skill, really limited. Jose Luis Castillo, interesting that you'd bring him up. His gameplan seemed to beat Mayweather in the first fight. Most will agree. But that's not how the judges saw it. Mayweather got away with one there, because Castillo didn't fight like he fought in the first fight during the rematch. Ricky Hatton, not a skilled pressure fighter, for me. More of a brawler. No jab, no head movement, no problem. Even so, I thought that he was winning up until after the middle rounds when he started to open himself up more and lose focus. Too bad. You need to realize that there are more than two styles of fighting and pressure fighter does not mean brawler, volume puncher does not mean pressure fighter either. Boxing is more nuanced than what I'm even giving it credit for, but at least I go the extra step to acknowledge there are dozens of fighting styles, not just two or three. All of them fit the description yet he beat all of them. And only Castillo was able to win some rounds. Outside boxer who uses the jab? Genaro Hernandez, Oscar De La Hoya, Juan Manuel Marquez and Shane Mosley. All of them fit the description. Yet somehow Mayweather dominated all of them. Only De La Hoya managed to win some rounds. The rest where one sided beatdowns. Juan Manuel Marquez isn't an outside fighter that uses a jab, he's a counter-puncher... Sort of... But more of a counter-brawler really. He's a bit of an anomaly. Genaro Hernandez, not on the same level of Mayweather, not hard to see why he was beaten, is it? Oscar De La Hoya, I had old DLH beating Mayweather using that game plan. So yeah... He exposed Floyd a bit. Shane Mosley sucks, always did. Needs the juice to be good. Your theory doesnt make sense! Fanboys don't make sense. I don't have a horse in this fight. I'm just stating things objectively. Floyd Mayweather Jr. is a great fighter, one of the greatest to have ever lived. H2H he gives everyone a run for their money no matter what era. Ability isn't his problem. Heart, courage, and legacy. That's where he's deficient and when two all time greats get together, it just seems that the one who wants it more gets it. I don't buy that Mayweather wants it anymore.

Why didn't the fight take place later at WW? After Mayweather left him. Arum had no interest in doing any business with Floyd. Your seeing it now with Pacquiao, it's not just the drug testing issue. Bob wants to milk his cash cow and have inhouse fights for as long as possible. It's the same with all of his fighters. He doesnt want to do business with Golden Boy. And he definetly doesnt want to have his fighters lose to Mayweather. He would rather have Top Rank fighters knock off other Top Rank fighters so that the credibility of his fighters increases. He knows how good Floyd is. The other issue is that Cotto lost to a straight up bum in Margarito. After that the fight lost it's appeal. If Cotto had beaten Margarito and Pacquiao, he would have got the fight with Mayweather, because it would have been so huge that Arum would have been inclined to make it happen. But he lost both times.

he needs space to fight and time to think..manny wont give him either..mannys just gonna bust him up till he stops him Actually he doesn't need space to fight on the inside Mayweather is better than Pacquiao.

Because the slick fighter, which is what you really mean, isn't the be-all and end all of styles either. There are many styles that give Mayweather problems, a skilled pressure fighter gives Mayweather problems and an outside boxer who uses a jab gives him problems. That isn't to say that he'll necessarily lose against every skilled pressure fighter and every outside fighter there ever was, but the styles are there to give him problems and everyone has the ability to lose. Mayweather is no exception. So why havent any of them beaten Mayweather? Skilled pressure fighter? Let's see, he beat : Diego Corrales, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo, Zab Judah, Carlos Baldomir and Ricky Hatton. All of them fit the description yet he beat all of them. And only Castillo was able to win some rounds. Outside boxer who uses the jab? Genaro Hernandez, Oscar De La Hoya, Juan Manuel Marquez and Shane Mosley. All of them fit the description. Yet somehow Mayweather dominated all of them. Only De La Hoya managed to win some rounds. The rest where one sided beatdowns. Your theory doesnt make sense!

Blame Bob Arum for that. He had them both when they were champions at 140 and didnt make the fight? I wonder why? He knew what Floyd would do to Cotto and didnt want his best prospect to get ruined by a guy who was just about to leave him. Why didn't the fight take place later at WW?

Lineal Welterweight Champion = Not a threat? #1 Ranked Welterweight in Mosley = Not a threat? Pactards are so stupid it's absolutley astounding. I didn't think that Mosley was ever a threat. Poeple overrated him to hell. Honestly he shouldn't be allowed to fight anymore. He was using steroids knowingly for a very long period of time. He should be banned from the hall of fame.

Usually most BOXERS, always beat fighters. Why do people say he was scared of cotto? Lmao that's an easy victory Because the slick fighter, which is what you really mean, isn't the be-all and end all of styles either. There are many styles that give Mayweather problems, a skilled pressure fighter gives Mayweather problems and an outside boxer who uses a jab gives him problems. That isn't to say that he'll necessarily lose against every skilled pressure fighter and every outside fighter there ever was, but the styles are there to give him problems and everyone has the ability to lose. Mayweather is no exception.

cotto lives too far away

floyd should've lost to jlc....he struggled vs a midegt in jesus chavez also.......that alone tells you he aint unbeatable ..