LOL... I love it how that crap decision over Valuev is being blown out of proportion by Diva fans. Do you also give Chagaev that much respect for beating Valuev in a much more dominant fashion? Remember Chagaev beat a younger, healtheir, mobile, and more powerful Valuev that was also UNDEFEATED. T
he version of Valuev that Diva fought hasn't had a KO/TKO in 5 fights and 2.5 years prior to fighting Diva and had to have both knees and his shoulder operated on after the fight and couldn't even enforce the rematch clause in his contract.
Diva still had to run the entire time from him for 12 rounds and set the record for throwing the least amount of punches by a HW in a title fight, even the Brit commentator who is usually a cheerleader of Diva thought he lost the fight. Also remember that ancient Holyfield actually did a better job with Valuev and didn't run from him but he wasn't given a gift decision.
Man u dont quit do u. Valuev isnt a great fighter but he's not a good style match for Haye and Haye still won and on away soil in his second division which is better than anything Berto has done, and that is what the question was
If Haye wasn't the former real champ of CW, it would be berto. But any respect that haye earned as being a real fighter at CW, is completely negated by his actions at HW. Audley Harrion, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bum.
BEHAVE!
David Haye and by a country mile. This a KO artist who ruled the CW division, winning his title on the champions turf before taking a HW title from THE Largest man ever to hold a HW Belt and again on away ground!
Berto has skill and i rate him but he aint one dick
One more thing, very important point that you seem to forget..... Valuev did NOT have the WBA belt, Chagaev was the true WBA champion...
BEHAVE!
David Haye and by a country mile. This a KO artist who ruled the CW division, winning his title on the champions turf before taking a HW title from THE Largest man ever to hold a HW Belt and again on away ground!
Berto has skill and i rate him but he aint one dick
LOL... I love it how that crap decision over Valuev is being blown out of proportion by Diva fans. Do you also give Chagaev that much respect for beating Valuev in a much more dominant fashion? Remember Chagaev beat a younger, healtheir, mobile, and more powerful Valuev that was also UNDEFEATED. T
he version of Valuev that Diva fought hasn't had a KO/TKO in 5 fights and 2.5 years prior to fighting Diva and had to have both knees and his shoulder operated on after the fight and couldn't even enforce the rematch clause in his contract.
Diva still had to run the entire time from him for 12 rounds and set the record for throwing the least amount of punches by a HW in a title fight, even the Brit commentator who is usually a cheerleader of Diva thought he lost the fight. Also remember that ancient Holyfield actually did a better job with Valuev and didn't run from him but he wasn't given a gift decision.
BEHAVE!
David Haye and by a country mile. This a KO artist who ruled the CW division, winning his title on the champions turf before taking a HW title from THE Largest man ever to hold a HW Belt and again on away ground!
Berto has skill and i rate him but he aint one dick
haye, 2 division world champ, unified cruiser. 90%KO ratio
This is not even debatable.
OK, yes Haye with the Klitschko thing has been becoming a joke.
But, to people forget his run at CW? What has Berto done to rival Haye CW resume?
Not a damn thing.
Not debatable.
Berto is a chump who I have no respect for. Haye is quickly losing all the respect he once had, but Berto hasn't got a single shred of credibility to lose any. Berto is the typical amercan TV hype job built by the media and not out of fans
Andre Berto. His cancellation of the fight with Mosley was legit IMO (anyone who says going to Help Haiti IMMEDIATELY after their tragedy is ducking is a *****) while Haye dicktucking the K Brothers is PATHETIC. BUT Berto needs to fight top comp soon. His status as a top contender is starting to wear thin.
What about his asking for 50/50 after Mosley was just in the biggest PPV of the year??That was a clear duck buddy,Berto is a lame,what about Cintron calling him a Puzzy and he is still not fighting him??LOL..
David Haye. If he fought the Klitscho's win or lose I don't think people would have a problem with him, they would acknowledge him as a fighter that did his bit.
With regards to Berto, he's in a situation where he has to win a big fight to gain people's respect/acknowledgement. His resume lacks substance.
If a far superior welterweight offered Andre Berto 50-50 across the board he wouldn't duck the fight, in fact he'd probably settle for 35%.
Haye may have a better resume, but he is ducking an opportunity that Berto never would.
This is not even debatable.
OK, yes Haye with the Klitschko thing has been becoming a joke.
But, to people forget his run at CW? What has Berto done to rival Haye CW resume?
Not a damn thing.
Not debatable.
Andre Berto. His cancellation of the fight with Mosley was legit IMO (anyone who says going to Help Haiti IMMEDIATELY after their tragedy is ducking is a *****) while Haye dicktucking the K Brothers is PATHETIC. BUT Berto needs to fight top comp soon. His status as a top contender is starting to wear thin.
I don't know...Its hard to say. I mean Haye had to literally be cornered to the point where he'd lose more respect from ducking the Klitschkos then he would from losing to them. Even if he fights one, I still don't think he wants to.
Berto has been fighting sh*ty competition, but let's not act like he hasn't been trying to get better fights. He tried to get Zab Judah, Cotto, Mosley and Pacquiao. And despite what people say, its not his fault the Collazo rematch fell apart. With that said, he's a money hungry idiot who needs to know his place, but he's not a p**sy. Once he realizes that he's not a huge star and he needs to take what's given to him, good things will come (even if he ends up getting KTFO). I personally blame HBO for what he's thinking right now.
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