No hate, but I'd have all these fighters ranked P4P over Pacquiao if they did this...

This is how unimpressed with Pacquiao's recent run of opponents I have been here lately. It's not hate, but it's the truth. what you posted isn't a p4p list. it's a "what have you done for me lately" list.

Yeah, but so is Freddie Roach and Bob Arum. :drillserg Roach and arum are not fighters. apple to apple, sir.

Hopkins went on to beat Tavoris Cloud, beat the Dawson-Pascal winner, and then beat the super six winner and maybe Bute. Try to tell me that wouldn't out do what Pacquiao has been doing by fighting guys coming off bad performances at catch weights. Martinez went on to beat Pirog, Golovkin, and Dzinziruk. It sounds like he just wants money fights now I gotta admit. But if he did beat those guys and if you combine that with his recent run how can you deny the guy the #1 P4P spot. And if Bradley were to beat Alexander and Khan he'd be at least knocking on the door even though I probably wouldn't rank him over Pacquiao based on that. And believe it or not, I'd be tempted to rank Andre Ward over Pacquiao if he won the super six even though myself and everybody complains about his style. This is how unimpressed with Pacquiao's recent run of opponents I have been here lately. It's not hate, but it's the truth. If Hopkins did all that, he unquestionably would be p4p #1. Martinez would have to get an impressive victory over someone at 168 IMO. Bradley to some people would just be making the p4p list if he beat Alexander and Khan, but if he did that convincingly I would put him top 5 I think. Ward would have a LOT of work to do.

Why are we playing the game IF game... What IF Pac beats Berto and Bradley? What IF Moreno beats the winner of Montiel-Donaire and also beats the winner of Showtime tournament?

Boy!!!!! You seem to be making sooo many thread about Pac lately, Yes we all don't like the Mosley fight but chill out a bit.

I think people pay way too much emphasis on pfp!!It is purely a mythical term that is interpreted if 2 fighters were the same size who would be better!!If Hopkins & Pacman were the same size Pacman would always beat him!!Hopkins has always had a problem with high workrates & Pacman's is easily the best in boxing!! However if what U really meant was who is greater,B-Hop needs nothing to top Pacman because he's the greater fighter period!!While Pacman is adored for the most part & B-Hop disliked,whoever takes a long unbiased look at their resumes will see that B_Hop's is clearly better!!

u seem less blunt than before iceta what happened? :thinking:

Altho I agree I still wouldn't put them over manny. Altho we don't like his recent fights he is active. If Floyd was active I would do the same thing. PAC is doing what floyd been doing and that's follow ray lenard(Altho what he did was bs Lenard fought way better comp then Floyd and manny. Good thing is Floyd and manny have each other. 2 of the best this era(plus b hop).

"Hopkins went on to beat Tavoris Cloud, beat the Dawson-Pascal winner, and then beat the super six winner and maybe Bute. Try to tell me that wouldn't out do what Pacquiao has been doing by fighting guys coming off bad performances at catch weights." that would take 3 years. are you serious? "Martinez went on to beat Pirog, Golovkin, and Dzinziruk. It sounds like he just wants money fights now I gotta admit. But if he did beat those guys and if you combine that with his recent run how can you deny the guy the #1 P4P spot." clearly, you simply dislike Pacquiao, really? "And if Bradley were to beat Alexander and Khan he'd be at least knocking on the door even though I probably wouldn't rank him over Pacquiao based on that. " lol And believe it or not, I'd be tempted to rank Andre Ward over Pacquiao if he won the super six even though myself and everybody complains about his style. again, i must lol

I completely agree with what you said about Hopkins, but not so much Martinez. Pirog and Golovkin are both good, but they are still unproven. Pirog's best win is over another unproven fighter, and Golovkin's opposition hasn't been amazing, which is fine because he's still getting built up. If Martinez cleared the division and then moved up to beat a decent Super Middleweight or two, he wouldn't just have a claim to the spot. He'd be the best fighter in the world without a doubt. Ward would have to win the Super Six, beat Bute and then maybe move up and face a good LHW before he'd have a claim to the spot. Bradley would never get it without dethroning Pacquiao, or at least staying right under him until he retires and taking his spot, similar to what Pacquiao did to Floyd.

So we can agree Floyd is a coward?? :D lifeless troll.

So we can agree Floyd is a coward?? :D Yeah, but so is Freddie Roach and Bob Arum. :drillserg

How about Floyd not being a pu$$y? You seem to love homo-cowards though. I don't even have Floyd ranked in the top ten P4P right now as it stands. What are you talking about?

No hate. But you are an idiot. LOL green K

Hopkins went on to beat Tavoris Cloud, beat the Dawson-Pascal winner, and then beat the super six winner and maybe Bute. Try to tell me that wouldn't out do what Pacquiao has been doing by fighting guys coming off bad performances at catch weights. Martinez went on to beat Pirog, Golovkin, and Dzinziruk. It sounds like he just wants money fights now I gotta admit. But if he did beat those guys and if you combine that with his recent run how can you deny the guy the #1 P4P spot. And if Bradley were to beat Alexander and Khan he'd be at least knocking on the door even though I probably wouldn't rank him over Pacquiao based on that. And believe it or not, I'd be tempted to rank Andre Ward over Pacquiao if he won the super six even though myself and everybody complains about his style. This is how unimpressed with Pacquiao's recent run of opponents I have been here lately. It's not hate, but it's the truth. No hate. But you are an idiot.