Floyd will more than likely face someone just as bad, if not worse in his next fight?
I mean I can see why in a sense due to fact that Pacquiao fans have been so critical of Floyds opponents but just like I told them not to call Mosley old as Manny would end up facing him (making Pactards look like hypocrite) I'm giving you guys a warning.
Let's look at this from a boxing sense. Martinez and Pacquiao are the only fights that make sense for him. By the time he works out his legal issues, he more than likely will have been out for over a year. Do you honestly think he would risk going into those fights with possible ring rust?
Both Manny and Sergio are fighters with some of the best timing in boxing, and since Floyd's style is predicated on reflexes, it's almost inevitable that he takes an easy fight first.
So while you guys are flaming, remember you guys are gonna be in the same position when Floyd faces someone like Matthew Hatton (someone mediocre
like that) in the summer.
Therefore if you are truly a boxing fan, you know exactly what to look for in a Pac vs Mosley fight. If Pac dismantles Mosley in a dominating fashion, then Mayweather will certainly look bad. The reverse is true.
He'll look bad to the causal nut-hugger who doesn't understand the intricacies behind the sweet science.
Different styles, leads to different results. Boxing isn't a race to see who can take an opponent out the fastest. Its about getting the victory and taking the least amount of punishment in the process.
If you can't understand that, then you shouldn't be posting here.
This is the way I see it:
the PACMAN has got three more fights left (to me), one can only put so many wonderful fighters/boxers in those three spots with Mayweather being at the top of all three.
Mayweather > Berto > Mosley/JMM (that is three fights fully booked in my world)
Also, I would rather think that Pacquiao's camp wants to show that he could stop fighthers early on or give them a good beating when other's won't or can't. Don't tell me that: Mayweather's UDing an opponent destroys them for life b***sh*t! Nobody buys that UDing makes any PRO fighthers that gae/weak/scarred for life!
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Um....Hopkins v Pavlik....check that fight out again
To be honest I have feed the beast and I'm guilty to a certain extend as well. As a Pacquiao fan, this had been a humbling experience for me also.
Glad to see you have a conscious. I was in the same boat when Floyd "selected" JMM and then it only got worse when the weight issues came about.... Yet it still even with Floyd having all advantges I didnt think JMM would perform so badly. But it was a shyt fight. Just as Clottey, Margarito and Mosley is.
I'm a big fan of both guys but get depicted and forced to one side as I think Floyd clowns Pac in the ring and that's not fair but what ever.
I just want the best match ups and I'm only disappointed more and more every time Pac fights or like when Floyd fought JMM and would be dissapointed if he fought someone like Khan or someone he would techncially beat down. Floyd better return and speak Pac, Martinez, Berto or even PWILL. He would get a pass from me if he even picked PWILL.
The point I was making is this:
Manny fans calling Mosley old etc when Floyd fought him look like idiots now that Manny is fighting him in May.
In similar fashion Floyd fans who are laughing now will look like idiots when Floyd takes a soft fight prior to Manny or Sergio.
I have stated several times in this thread that I was aware people other than Floyd fans were dissing this fight, but that has nothing to do with the context of this thread.
Yea Merry Christmas to you too.... lol We got your intent.
You acknowledge that Pac does deserve shyt for "selecting" this fight but for comfort food you still bring Floyd in and "warn" people of his next decision to distract from Pac's current decision?
You seem to forget Pac already said "no" to Mosley when it counted. Nothing changed. Pac's still hand selecting certain fighters AT certain weight classes AT certain weights. Bob has an agenda.
Don't be mad that Pac is looking like a hypocritical POS right now and your trying to throw Floyd under the bus for something he hasn't even done yet... lol Call me a troll... thats being a f**king douche bag.
When Floyd comes back and makes his stupid decision you have permission to tell everyone "I told you so", I'll jump aboard the hate train and bash too.
In the meantime lets stop making up stories and keep honest, like Pac avoiding the WW Champion yet again for a past it "Splenda" Shane Mosley. It's not hard to see why Shane got the fight and why Arum hasn't agreed to fight Floyd. Floyd deals with Golden Boy just as Mosley did. Yet now that he's not so "too good" and not with GBP he gets a shot. While everyone else is "not picking up the phone", "needs to prove themselves" or they "price themselves out of a fight". Right... how convent for Arum to say so when everyone knew well ahead of time Bob wanted Mosley from the start. Just like he wanted Clottey and just like he wanted Margarito.
Arum has an agenda and its not hard to see that certain fighters are not on or at least right now. "Picking" Mosley now confirms this yet again. Be on the look out for Pac vs Cotto II regardless of who's around, who deserves a shot and what the fans want.
Yet you try and justify this shyt fight with......."but Floyd........." and you call me a "troll"?????
I want the best match ups for Pac. I've already told you he beats Berto, Mosley and JMM (at 140 or 147). Its about doing the right thing for the sport and making the best match ups. Pac/Arum yet again chooses not to. Is Pac the new Mayweather?
If floyd comes back and fights berto as a 'tune up' as an example
floyd - berto >>> pac - current mosley.
Or if Floyd fights Martinez which i doubt eitherway
floyld - martinez >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pac - mosley
Or even if Floyd fights Khan, same result whichever way you look at it. Moisley is done and finished and as it stands does not deserve a shot at the two pound for pound fighters even as a tune up. Especially when Marquez and Berto were on the table for Pac. Easy money for pac. Arum = *******
That's the bottom line
Berto is a good choice for Manny just because he is undefeated and young, but Marquez over Mosley is far worst, Marquez was fat, slow, heavy handed and diminished reflexes when he fought Floyd at 144lbs. He was much faster at the lower weights but i'm sorry but Marquez didn't retain much of his speed when he moved up....
People are dissing it because it's a sh*tty fight. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out and you don't have to be a member of some group of fans to voice that.
You see how PAc's fans have to talk to boxing fans lol... they can't address real boxing fans, they just want to keep talking to Floyd's fans and how he ducks guys lol...
PAc hand picks his fights, and every sane minded boxing fan knows this except PAc's fans. They think because he is beating up bigger but inferior comp that, that is so much tougher than what other boxers are doing lol...
Who ever said that Margarito and Cotto were good? They are ok at best, and PAc fought them at catch weights. Pac wins are decent wins, but his fans overrate his wins as if he fought Hagler type opponents in those fights. GTFOOH wit dat lol...
Problem is its NOT just certain fans. Its the majority of boxing fans. I'm not sure who Floyd will fight when if he returns but if I had to guess it would be Berto. Again NOBODY can talk shyt as Berto is the #1 WW just as Mosley was. Win for Mayweather, lose for Pac because again he's fighting another washed up fighter.
Don't get me wrong, Pac beats Berto. Its the point he avoids these guys and people give props to him and bash Floyd even when Floyd's fighting P4P TOP guys or the TOP guys in the WW division.
LMAO@Floyd fighting Berto.... again more fantasy matchups by Flomos
i don't see whats the fuzz actually, Pac has only 3 more fights before he hangs em up
so lets say he picked Berto or JMM, one way or the other he's still gonna fight Shane down the road
Shane is so desperate pimping for himself to land a Pacquiao fight, and Uncle Bob's all too willling to give him that because of Shane's falling from GBP
But I'll bet you anything in the aftermath JMM will fight like for example the Alexander-Bradley winner at 140. Do some more of Manny's heavy lifting and dirty work.
it's more likely that jmm will fight khan or maidana as all are with GBP.
if bradley or alexander wins, both guys will call out pac and mayweather.
trust me, wifebeater will take a tune up against matt hatton to tease everybody that a fight with pac is next only to go back into retirement or vacation. he's biitch-made like that
Pac is probably gonna fight the winner of Cotto-Margarito. Mayweather will stay in retirement. They are both joke ass hoes. And just like you've mentioned in other threads you think JMM should take the same kind of heat for fighting Morales.
But I'll bet you anything in the aftermath JMM will fight like for example the Alexander-Bradley winner at 140. Do some more of Manny's heavy lifting and dirty work.
trust me, wifebeater will take a tune up against matt hatton to tease everybody that a fight with pac is next only to go back into retirement or vacation. he's biitch-made like that
im a floyd fan and if he did the same thing id call him out on it too. so really, whats the point?? bullsh it is bullsh it no matter whos pulling it off.
the better question is why pac fans keep on running back to talking about floyd when its clear the guy wont be relevant anytime soon??? forget about him manny is the man in the spotlight and hes making an ass of himself. the fact that u guys keep thinking about floyd says more about u than it does about him and his fans.