Just like I said all along... Roach told Filipino reporter Joaquin Henson that he would insist on a pre-fight drug test from Mosley.
No later than 8 minutes after this article went public I made a thread about it on another boxing site saying how it was hypocritical to make that request. There were only about 3 links that would appear in google search after typing "Roach insists on Mosley drug test" into the search engine. Less than a day later there were over 10 pages worth, as other boxing fans on other boxing sites and blogs articulated his hypocrisy as well.
The next day, Roach denied all of it and said the reporter made it up. I made another thread talking about how I did not believe the reporter would lie on the adored trainer of their national hero & icon. I said that Roach publicly denied it because of the heat that boxing fans were putting on him. I was actually banned from that other website after making that thread.
And what do we have now? That same reporter speaking out and reassuring people that he would NOT have misquoted Freddie Roach. Now that evidence has surfaced about Roach being a liar, how can anybody believe ANYTHING that he has said in the past?
link:
http://philboxing.com/news/story-49028.html
"I wouldn't misquote Freddie -- he's a real friend and I wouldn't want to put words in his mouth. After I read Freddie's denial, I texted Freddie and asked him if he really wouldn't insist on a drug test. I said sorry if I misquoted him but recalled he said he would insist on a drug test during our conversation. He replied right away and texted, "normal testing.""
Yea, they sent a Filipino doctor (lol) to collect urine sample from Pac....how legitimate is that? And tell me if they would have done that if Floyd had'nt exposed them and their garbage testing...
They did that shyt to save face, and why only Manny and Floyd? They weasnt even a signed fight.. Why did'nt every fighter get random urine tested?
If the OST that Coward and Mosley took, how come we knew there was gonna be OSTs involved in their fight.
We knew it would happen because Floyd said "Any fight I have from this point on, OST will be involved". He said this in the midst of Manny declining the tests..
Correct me if I'm wrong, Coward Jr and Mosley signed on to fight with OSTs involved, they knew it was gonna happen. COLOR="red"]Who the f**k is gonna do PEDs when they signed off on a contract agreeing to OSTs.]
That's the point of OST, to prevent drug use or jjust make it more diffacult to cheat... Duh!
And, just to let you know, Olympians get tested year-round !!
Olympic STYLE, meaning in the same manner as used in the olympics. Meaning random blood and urine.
You're missing it when they say STYLE
Mosley has a history of cheating. It will always follow him till his last breath.
We can't say the same for PAC. So, it's not hypocritical at all on Roach's side if indeed there was a request for extra tests against a former cheater.
A cheater of any kind will always be subjected to a different type of treatment. That's the price a cheater pays. You reap what you sow.
It would be hypocritical of Roach if he asked for additional tests against a fighter who has NO history of cheating !!
Your turn to respond Opal. But Freddy has a history of training cheaters... You can't just sweep that under the rug man, not saying Manny is cheating but their is a history of Freddy training juiced fighters.. So the history is there on both camps
Question is, do you have a personal opinion? Or just go with whatever Mayweather says? I as a fan for example could agree with 7 days cut-off. Why tf flomos can't when they were all fine with 14 days in a poll months ago? That's lunacy.
you, my friend is delusional...look at u believing u hold the balance of negotiation in your hand..this is pathetic.
Oh, and btw, NSAC did do an extra test for PAC and Coward Jr. it was one of WADA's reps that showed up at PAC's house, it wasn't a blood test, but, it was random.
Yea, they sent a Filipino doctor (lol) to collect urine sample from Pac....how legitimate is that?
next time try actually presenting an argument--instead of insults--that's what pac fans are best at, insulting flomos but not following that up with any fukking logic--
mr opal made a hell of a thread--that's all there is to it--he knows his sh1t--he's a great poster--he presents facts--i do also--but manny fans like puss4puss and pullcounter like to throw insults--don't you fall into that category--it's not a good look--trust me--ask pound4pound--he's a fukking dumby--pure fukking dumby-lol
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Wow......i guess that pretty much puts me in my place than dont it sonny.
Another stupid thread made and supported by fan boys. Once again, fan boys will find (and sadly they really look extra hard) anything on a fighter they dont like (mainly due cuz they are fan boys of another), and twist it and make it into how they see fit. Yall didnt give a damn about this 2 years ago, and now out of the blue, everybody seems to be an insider or expert. Heck look at that moron Teddy Atlas. Mr insider he is i suppose.
Sorry if i just broke down 95% of yall in this thread. Which is kinda almost as sad as most of you who make fake accounts to make yourselves feel better by giving yourself green "K". So now......its yalls turn.....call me the names, and a tard, flomo whatever it is you fan boys say.How about that i know nothing about the sport. Thats always a classic.
Fan boys at their best.
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next time try actually presenting an argument--instead of insults--that's what pac fans are best at, insulting flomos but not following that up with any fukking logic--
mr opal made a hell of a thread--that's all there is to it--he knows his sh1t--he's a great poster--he presents facts--i do also--but manny fans like puss4puss and pullcounter like to throw insults--don't you fall into that category--it's not a good look--trust me--ask pound4pound--he's a fukking dumby--pure fukking dumby-lol
Another stupid thread made and supported by fan boys. Once again, fan boys will find (and sadly they really look extra hard) anything on a fighter they dont like (mainly due cuz they are fan boys of another), and twist it and make it into how they see fit. Yall didnt give a damn about this 2 years ago, and now out of the blue, everybody seems to be an insider or expert. Heck look at that moron Teddy Atlas. Mr insider he is i suppose.
Sorry if i just broke down 95% of yall in this thread. Which is kinda almost as sad as most of you who make fake accounts to make yourselves feel better by giving yourself green "K". So now......its yalls turn.....call me the names, and a tard, flomo whatever it is you fan boys say.How about that i know nothing about the sport. Thats always a classic.
Fan boys at their best.
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opal, i'm not sure how aware you are of manny pacquiao fans on here--but comprehension is not their strong suit---lol
they'll argue to the death even if the facts are right there in their faces-trust me, i know-lol-
good thread man--keep it up--you're making it look too easy--i'm starting to get a little jealous-lol
I think the backlash made freddie roach deny it but am glad he still did but the fact that he said he was referring to "Normal testing" shows he wasnt too confident in the NSAC testing because if he was he doesnt even need to mention "Testing" period.
Question is, do you have a personal opinion? Or just go with whatever Mayweather says? I as a fan for example could agree with 7 days cut-off. Why tf flomos can't when they were all fine with 14 days in a poll months ago? That's lunacy.
Too much time has passed between their rejection of the 14 day window and their offer of a 7 day window. This would have given them plenty of time to find the minimum amount of time needed to cycle PEDs in and out of his system to be affective through experimentation. I didn't agree with Floyd's offer of 14 days because I knew that Manny could cycle something within that time and be clean after the fight.
Big deal u fukking retard.. what if he is, look at other trainers. Floyds trainer compare to freddy. freddy is an angel compare to that monk#y. U guys are a bunch of retard making this a big deal. So what if he is a hypocrite?These retardz trying to find zomething pac bcoz they know there homo flloyd iz hiding
You mad lol!
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Question is, do you have a personal opinion? Or just go with whatever Mayweather says? I as a fan for example could agree with 7 days cut-off. Why tf flomos can't when they were all fine with 14 days in a poll months ago? That's lunacy.
Since you have your own opinion, I must imagine that since the first negotiation fell apart because Pac wouldn't except 14 days, you've been blaming the first negotion failure on him, correct?
2) even turning down the biggest fight ever on the basis that it's not commission standard.
No, he accepted it remember "yeah, sure, no problem. Anything u want"....Oh, i'm sorry, they turned it down, AFTER they originally accepted it. Then started back peddling on the dates and making 101 needle excuses.
it was more like:
“I gave him a chance, up to 14 days out. But my new terms are all the way up to the fight. They can come get us whenever, all the way up to the fight, random drug test. That’s what it is.”
http://www.8countnews.com/news/125/ARTICLE/2327/2010-02-17.html
http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/index.ssf/2010/02/floyd_mayweather_still_wonders.html
http://www.************.com/2010/11/manny-pacquiao-vs-floyd-mayweather-fight-of-the-century/
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleid=577359
That's only four out of many more sources. :headbang:
Question is, do you have a personal opinion? Or just go with whatever Mayweather says? I as a fan for example could agree with 7 days cut-off. Why tf flomos can't when they were all fine with 14 days in a poll months ago? That's lunacy.
They'd even put words into Mayweather's mouth, "offer is off the table", 7 day cut-off is not enough
it was more like:
“I gave him a chance, up to 14 days out. But my new terms are all the way up to the fight. They can come get us whenever, all the way up to the fight, random drug test. That’s what it is.”
http://www.8countnews.com/news/125/ARTICLE/2327/2010-02-17.html
http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/index.ssf/2010/02/floyd_mayweather_still_wonders.html
http://www.************.com/2010/11/manny-pacquiao-vs-floyd-mayweather-fight-of-the-century/
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleid=577359
That's only four out of many more sources. :headbang:
Don't even compare Flomos' attitude to Pac fans towards this request. I'm sure Pac fans are amenable to any compromise, ie, 2, 7, 14, 24 cut-off, even one blood test after the fight. Fukking flomos are the worst kinds of boxing fans when it comes to this issue. They'd even put words into Mayweather's mouth, "offer is off the table", 7 day cut-off is not enough, and all those stupid roadblocks flomos like to throw without even checking with their God.
Look retarded pissed of ****. There is ntohing wrong with freddy asking for pac a blood test before the fight special with mosley. Pac did reject floyds proposal before(BEFORE).
This would have been bad if pac did nt agree to floyd until now but pac did. these retarded ppl saying freddy is a hypocrite . He would have been few years back not at this time.
Opal lick you mothers @ss cream. RETARD!
freddie is a hypocrite, you lose! "peeleft: