How is Mosley a garbage fight for Manny when the other two options are lesser fighters than Mosley? Mosley would Ko Marquez and Berto.
Marquez got embarrassed by Mayweather. He didn't win a second of that fight. Easiest fight Mayweather ever had.
Marquez ducked Khan and after the Mayweather fight he fought Diaz and Katsidis. Come on man
As for Berto. This guy resume is garbage.
Who has he fought to deserve a Pacquiao fight?
Martinez would have been a great fight for Pacquiao but that guy is 160lbs.
He would come in the ring at 175lbs on fight night. Thats asking too much from a guy coming from 106lbs.
Alexander/Bradley are tied up with eachother.
Khan is trained by the same trainer and is not ready for a fight like that.
Paul Williams is still asleep after the martinez fight.
Maidana just lost and is not on Manny's level.
Ortiz would get destroyed
Alvarez is too green and young
Who else is there. Mayweather is on another vacation.
so if jmm can't carry the weight above 135 lbs and roach and arum are adamant that pac fight at 147 lbs, then the JMM fight can't and shouldn't happen. JMM is just too small.
ah...I was waiting for a pactarded answer such as yours.
Independently of weight. JMM still has a better shot against Pac than Mosley. JMM weight at fight night is around 143-145. Pac's weight always stays the same at welter.
And if it is such an easy fight why not take it?
Why not clear up that Pac is the better fighter by knocking out JMM?
All of you excuses are patethic, Pac has nothing to prove by fighting old man Mosley.
just like JMM said he would beat cotto and tony..quote he said if gained weight correctly wtf?? excuse..should cotto call JMM at 147 would JMM take it?? i think not..
JMM is just looking for a payday...
shane in the other hand is a bigger draw..
sooner or later we'll get use to it like we did with pac/margarito
Marquez wants fighters to move down in weight like he is some kind of big draw or something.
Drink some piss and move your punk ass up.
see, this is the reason why i like fighters like Martinez.
earned his way to become the Middleweight champion , but still meets him at a catchweight just to make the fight.
Manny Pacquiao can easily make 135 IMO, the guy weighs in at 144 and rehydrates to 148.
and what has Mosley done to deserve this fight?
his destruction of Margarito two years ago? or his unimpressive run since then?
Marquez has looked very good despite his loss to Mayweather.
Jro, is right... 138 would be a perfect weight for this fight, and he gives him a run for his money.
The difference between Martinez and Pacquaio is alot $$$$$$$.
Pacquaio can call shots while Martinez must do whatever he can to get the most money.
The P. Williams fight was the biggest fight for him so he had to do that catchweight. Mayweather and Manny can fight me and you and make a **** load of cash.
Fighting marquez at 135-138 is just plain unrealistic.
If you would have said 144 then maybe but not 135 come on.
I agree with you you partner...there is no way that marquez would beat shane...pac is the shot caller right now, if marquez wants the fight; he should go to 147, make some noise, and earn the fight!
see, this is the reason why i like fighters like Martinez.
earned his way to become the Middleweight champion , but still meets him at a catchweight just to make the fight.
Manny Pacquiao can easily make 135 IMO, the guy weighs in at 144 and rehydrates to 148.
and what has Mosley done to deserve this fight?
his destruction of Margarito two years ago? or his unimpressive run since then?
Marquez has looked very good despite his loss to Mayweather.
Jro, is right... 138 would be a perfect weight for this fight, and he gives him a run for his money.
How is Mosley a garbage fight for Manny when the other two options are lesser fighters than Mosley? Mosley would Ko Marquez and Berto.
Marquez got embarrassed by Mayweather. He didn't win a second of that fight. Easiest fight Mayweather ever had.
Marquez ducked Khan and after the Mayweather fight he fought Diaz and Katsidis. Come on man
As for Berto. This guy resume is garbage.
Who has he fought to deserve a Pacquiao fight?
Martinez would have been a great fight for Pacquiao but that guy is 160lbs.
He would come in the ring at 175lbs on fight night. Thats asking too much from a guy coming from 106lbs.
Alexander/Bradley are tied up with eachother.
Khan is trained by the same trainer and is not ready for a fight like that.
Paul Williams is still asleep after the martinez fight.
Maidana just lost and is not on Manny's level.
Ortiz would get destroyed
Alvarez is too green and young
Who else is there. Mayweather is on another vacation.
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Well said homie.. and I know you ain't a retarded ass pacfan.
First off I'm not a pactard.
Second, you keep talking about weight. Marquez is the one calling for the Pacquiao fight so why not move to 147 ?
You should know that Pac dictates terms not Marquez. If he really wanted that fight why not move up and fight.
My point was how can you call Pac vs Mosley garbage when Mosley is the better fighter. Get off that weight Bull ****
I agree with you you partner...there is no way that marquez would beat shane...pac is the shot caller right now, if marquez wants the fight; he should go to 147, make some noise, and earn the fight!
See this why I can't debate with you.
Because, you can't dispute my points?
Berto the only option at 147? Berto should fight someone who I know like cintron, williams, margarito, cotto, etc. Then i could see Pac vs Berto happening. Berto facing hernandez in his last fight doesn't get you a pacquaio fight.
Berto is the #3 rank WW by every respectable ranking, he is a title holder, undefeated, and prime. And, get this he has won fights at WW in the last 2 years.
At 140 bradley and alexander are good fighters but again what have they done to warrant a Pacquiao fight. They should clean up at 140 with Khan and maybe then You could talk Pac vs alexander/bradley.
Bradley would hands down be the king at 140...WTF are you talking about on what has he done to get a fight with Pac? He has done more to warrant a fight with Pac then what Mosley has that is for sure. And, Khan is talking about fighting Peterson, Judah, or Prescott in April in the U.K...So obviously Bradley can fight against Pac in May. Again what is the rush why not just wait?
Marquez at 135-138? For what?
Move to 147 if you want the fight.
At 147 is just as garbage as the Mosley fight...Maybe even worse...Not sure.
Martinez at 154. Can Martinez make that weight?
He says he can, so I will take his word for it.
If it is at 147 the only options is Berto.
If it is at 140 Bradley if he beat Alexander. The fight is not until May 7th. What is the rush see how Bradley-Alexander plays out.
JMM is only an option to me at 135....maybe at catch-weight of 138. Nothing higher than that though. Anything higher would be just as garbage as the Mosley fight.
Really at 154 Martinez.
All these options are better than the this garbage Mosley fight. And, it would have been more respectable, only true low life haters would of had a problem with those fights. And, especially against Martinez if he lost or even against JMM at 135 if he lost he still would of had respect just for taking those tough fights. And, it would had hurt his legacy one bit.
See this why I can't debate with you.
Berto the only option at 147? Berto should fight someone who I know like cintron, williams, margarito, cotto, etc. Then i could see Pac vs Berto happening. Berto facing hernandez in his last fight doesn't get you a pacquaio fight.
At 140 bradley and alexander are good fighters but again what have they done to warrant a Pacquiao fight. They should clean up at 140 with Khan and maybe then You could talk Pac vs alexander/bradley.
Marquez at 135-138? For what?
Move to 147 if you want the fight.
Martinez at 154. Can Martinez make that weight?
For someone with the name "Bigboxingfan" you sure aren't one.
We all know that Marquez cannot carry his weight over 140. You are trying to match up a 147 pounder against a 135 lb fighter shows how much brains you have.
Marquez vs Pac at 140 would have been a much more competitive fight. Just look at their two past fights.
Why not be a real boxing fan and provide useful threads not this garbage that only a pactard can think of.
so if jmm can't carry the weight above 135 lbs and roach and arum are adamant that pac fight at 147 lbs, then the JMM fight can't and shouldn't happen. JMM is just too small.
Kirby;9838531']No, he doesn't. Pacquiao won't trade with Shane, he'll circle with the jab and keep hitting him with his favorite punch, that straight left punch. Besides, he's too quick. Mosley would be confused, because I'm sure Mosley thinks Pacquiao will trade with him.
cool :boxing:
Ok 23,000 post guy. Who should Manny have fought then?
You act as if there is a gang of fighters for Pac to fight.
Name them please
If it is at 147 the only options is Berto.
If it is at 140 Bradley if he beat Alexander. The fight is not until May 7th. What is the rush see how Bradley-Alexander plays out.
JMM is only an option to me at 135....maybe at catch-weight of 138. Nothing higher than that though. Anything higher would be just as garbage as the Mosley fight.
Really at 154 Martinez.
All these options are better than the this garbage Mosley fight. And, it would have been more respectable, only true low life haters would of had a problem with those fights. And, especially against Martinez if he lost or even against JMM at 135 if he lost he still would of had respect just for taking those tough fights. And, it would had hurt his legacy one bit.
Is Pac a counter puncher?
Or do you also think that Mosley has a chance against Pac?
No, he doesn't. Pacquiao won't trade with Shane, he'll circle with the jab and keep hitting him with his favorite punch, that straight left punch. Besides, he's too quick. Mosley would be confused, because I'm sure Mosley thinks Pacquiao will trade with him.
Irony of it all is that this is the 2nd thread that Floyd dickriders have made liking this garbage match up.
Phenom was the first and now the TS :nonono:
Ok 23,000 post guy. Who should Manny have fought then?
You act as if there is a gang of fighters for Pac to fight.
Name them please
Kirby;9838280']Marquez would school Shane. You need to remember that Marquez looked bad against a guy who makes EVERYBODY look bad.
The Pactards forget that styles make fights and Mosley is HORRIBLE against counter punchers, always has been, always will be. Marquez by UD.
Lol...Can you imagine if it was Marquez in the 2nd of the Mayweather-Mosley fight? Do you think JMM would have survived?
Nah, Mosley would KO Marquez to dream land. JMM has been known to hit the canvass against lesser punchers (He was KD'd by Floyd who had 1 KO in his last 6 fights)...imagine him getting hit with a Mosley bomb.
shows you how people are clueless when it comes to boxing
JMM depending on the weight they fight at, would BEAT Mosley, JMM doesn't come forward and is one of the best Counter Punchers in Boxing Today STILL, so just like the Mora Fight, I think Mosley would struggle with JMM Style...even with the Size and Power Advantage that he would have
as for Berto...I thought if the tragedy in Haiti didn't happen, I always thought that Berto would have been the one to beat Mosley and not Mayweather, one thing about Berto is that he can be unpredictable, he can Brawler and Fight Coming Forward...but he can also out-box you when he needs to and he can fight going backward and be a counter puncher when he has to, just because he Brawled with Collazo does not mean he would have done the same with Mosley
2011 people will learned that it wasn't Berto ducking people, it was people ducking Berto because of his hands speed which would and WILL pose a problem for many fighters today, if Berto was so "Weak" "Overrated" "Not That Good" people would be coming after his WBC title like crazy, he is fighting Bums because none of the Top Fighters in his division wants to fight him...WHO FAULT IS THAT? It is certainly not Berto that is running from a fight, plus that Welterweight division is weak right now with everyone moving up to 154
No Berto refuses to face anyone decent, he priced himself out of a Cotto and Mosley fight, he has refused to face Cintron and Jones, and now wants to look for jwws. Please tell me who has ducked him?
shows you how people are clueless when it comes to boxing
JMM depending on the weight they fight at, would BEAT Mosley, JMM doesn't come forward and is one of the best Counter Punchers in Boxing Today STILL, so just like the Mora Fight, I think Mosley would struggle with JMM Style...even with the Size and Power Advantage that he would have
as for Berto...I thought if the tragedy in Haiti didn't happen, I always thought that Berto would have been the one to beat Mosley and not Mayweather, one thing about Berto is that he can be unpredictable, he can Brawler and Fight Coming Forward...but he can also out-box you when he needs to and he can fight going backward and be a counter puncher when he has to, just because he Brawled with Collazo does not mean he would have done the same with Mosley
2011 people will learned that it wasn't Berto ducking people, it was people ducking Berto because of his hands speed which would and WILL pose a problem for many fighters today, if Berto was so "Weak" "Overrated" "Not That Good" people would be coming after his WBC title like crazy, he is fighting Bums because none of the Top Fighters in his division wants to fight him...WHO FAULT IS THAT? It is certainly not Berto that is running from a fight, plus that Welterweight division is weak right now with everyone moving up to 154
People are clueless because you said so?
Thats your opinion that marquez could beat Mosley. My opinion is that Mosley would walk through Marquez.
So to me you are clueless.
As for berto. He wouldn't even rematch Collazo which was a great fight.
It's hard for me to believe that the only reason Berto hasn't fought anybody is because he is being ducked. Money talks and bull **** runs the marathon.
If HBO made the money right maybe he could get a fight. He brings nothing to the table money wise.
How is Mosley a garbage fight for Manny when the other two options are lesser fighters than Mosley? Mosley would Ko Marquez and Berto.
Marquez got embarrassed by Mayweather. He didn't win a second of that fight. Easiest fight Mayweather ever had.
Marquez ducked Khan and after the Mayweather fight he fought Diaz and Katsidis. Come on man
As for Berto. This guy resume is garbage.
Who has he fought to deserve a Pacquiao fight?
Martinez would have been a great fight for Pacquiao but that guy is 160lbs.
He would come in the ring at 175lbs on fight night. Thats asking too much from a guy coming from 106lbs.
Alexander/Bradley are tied up with eachother.
Khan is trained by the same trainer and is not ready for a fight like that.
Paul Williams is still asleep after the martinez fight.
Maidana just lost and is not on Manny's level.
Ortiz would get destroyed
Alvarez is too green and young
Who else is there. Mayweather is on another vacation.
i LOL'd :lol1:
Kirby;9838280']Marquez would school Shane. You need to remember that Marquez looked bad against a guy who makes EVERYBODY look bad.
The Pactards forget that styles make fights and Mosley is HORRIBLE against counter punchers, always has been, always will be. Marquez by UD.
Is Pac a counter puncher?
Or do you also think that Mosley has a chance against Pac?
Irony of it all is that this is the 2nd thread that Floyd dickriders have made liking this garbage match up.
Phenom was the first and now the TS :nonono: