Ya'll are pathetic. You've been arguing for years that Floyd didn't face this person or that person because of $1 differences and timing problems and this excuse or that excuse- and you finally found another fighter who has a couple years of questionsable fights (although only half of the 9 years its been since Floyd didn't have a questionable fight).
Ya'll are pathetic leaches using the same arguments against pac you've been defending Floyd with like little teenybopper fanboys.
Me, I think they're both good examples of what's bad in boxing. I never thought I'd be saying that about Manny, but I can't be a raving hypocrite.
On top of all that, FLoyd is nowhere to be found when Manny's next fights are up for discussion. He looks like a bigger puss than any other time in his career right now.
we've talked plenty of times before cort. i know you're aware of both, but c'mon, i could just as easily chop up of 4 fight runs of floyd.
corley/bruseles/gatti/sharmba
gatti/sharmba/judah/baldo
those are some punching bags.
best that was available is a total joke.
how come he announced the jmm fight the day before manny fought? how come cotto and shane managed to fight everyone at ww and floyd didn't? you're an excuse maker, that's it.
no one needs to make excuses for jmm, for shane, for cotto, for vic d, for adamek, for cunningham, for froch, for malignaggi, for bradley, for pascal, for the klits. those are real fighters, just saying what you said about floyd fighting the best available is makes you questionable.
you're playing youself for your crush on him if you really believe that floyd fought the best available at every time.
i remember stevie johnson being available., i remember margs being available, i remember spaddy and casa being available. i remember cotto being available in 08,
the worst shi t ever is agreeing to a fight at one weight and not even making the weight. at least at catchweights all parties agreed and everyone made weight.
Walt, u not being fair my man. How r u going to downgrade Floyd for fighting to get the big ticket in gatti. U know like i know that the bruseles/corley fights were both eliminators for gatti. Floyd hadn't even headlined a PPV fight at the time. U know he was chasing the $$$. But after he beat Gatti who was he looking for? Where were the Hattons and the Cottos then?
And u know the Mitchell fight was a tuneup for Judah. U know this walt....let's call it fair. And ain't nothing wrong with fighting the former undisputed champ and then the lineal champ in consecutive fights. What.. did you really want him to fight margarito instead? what had maragrito done to warrant a fight...beat Six heads, Cintron, or is shotgun gomez?
Then u mention Stevie Johnson, but didn't stevie get conquered by Jose Luis Castillo? Didn't Floyd fight Him? Castillo whatn't the best available? What r u saying walt!!!
The only thing i agree with you on is Cotto in 08. he should of fought him before retiring. But Floyd ain't pull no pacquiao crap. let's call it fair...don't compare Floyd to pacquiao shenanigans.
Ya'll are pathetic. You've been arguing for years that Floyd didn't face this person or that person because of $1 differences and timing problems and this excuse or that excuse- and you finally found another fighter who has a couple years of questionsable fights (although only half of the 9 years its been since Floyd didn't have a questionable fight).
Ya'll are pathetic leaches using the same arguments against pac you've been defending Floyd with like little teenybopper fanboys.
Me, I think they're both good examples of what's bad in boxing. I never thought I'd be saying that about Manny, but I can't be a raving hypocrite.
On top of all that, FLoyd is nowhere to be found when Manny's next fights are up for discussion. He looks like a bigger puss than any other time in his career right now.
You are pathetic for writing this post. I have followed Floyd's career from the beginning and he has not avoided anyone. What clowns like you fail to mention when you write garbage like this are facts such as: Floyd offered to fight Mosley twice and Mosley turned the fight down (in 1999 when Mosley was in his prime and in 2006 when he was closer to his prime than when they actually fought in 2010); Floyd tried to secure a fight with Ricky Hatton at 140 in what would have been Floyd's first fight at 140 after two fights against Jose Luis Castillo at 135, but Hatton's promoter and father refused to take the fight; Floyd called out Kostya Tyszu at 140. Tyszu chose to fight Hatton instead; Floyd called out Cotto at 140 after the Gatti fight when Mayweather was still fighting under Top Rank's banner. It could have easily been made. Arum wouldn't put Cotto anywhere near Mayweather; Pacquaio turned down the fight against Mayweather because Pac refused a 14-day compromise on drug tests. No matter how you retards try to spin all the bulls....t, that is the fact.
It amazes me and I think it is pathetic that retarded Pac fans like you spend more time on this message board talking about Floyd, who has not fought since May 2010 spoken publicly in months than you do about the god you worship. You should get life or visit a brothel because you desperately need help.
Really?
Now you know how Floyd fans feel.
your fat ass finds any way to discredit Manny and praise floyd for any little thing he does, so what the hell you bitching about?
It will be the same but with different people taking up different sides with different people upset.
Floyd and Manny are so intertwined with how most people currently think that an opinion on one means they hold the exactly opposite position on the other guy.
It is a fairly good example of mob mentality.
green k owed.
:lol1: at some of you..
Good post TS.. Fukk the bull**** by Manny and Floyd. Fukk Arum and Team Pacquiao.
But, at the end of the day..
He beats Mosley - he's shot.
He beats Marquez - he's over the hill.
He beats Berto - he's green/never beat a top contender.
Different people will come up with different ways to discredit him.
Hopefully, before his career is over, he fights all three (plus Floyd) so nothing else can be said.
Catch 22 .. lose/lose
Really?
Now you know how Floyd fans feel.
Not only that. They all thought that Floyd would loose against all these guys. And floyd knows what they'll say after so he has to really be careful when picking his opponents.
huh?????
who did people think floyd would lose against?
Exactly Gambler, what walt don't understand is that i'm pretty familiar with both of their careers. I have all of Floyd's career and some of manny's. i think very highly of Floyd and i think his career is stellar. But if 1's argument is that Floyd fights for money, then i'm not going to argue with them. But i will argue that he fought the best that was available at the time at any weight class.
Now pacquiao is just outrageous as of late. Walt wants to talk about holes in careers well pacquiao's is like Swiss cheese. say what u about Floyd, but atleast he made defenses and fought the man of the division in mostly all of the divisions that he has been in.
floyd ain't fighting punching bags in 4 or 5 straight fights or oscar's leftovers and fighitng everyone at a catchweight that is suitable to him or trying to stack every single advantage in his favor. floyd ain't always do what the people wanted, but he didn't pull this crap.
we've talked plenty of times before cort. i know you're aware of both, but c'mon, i could just as easily chop up of 4 fight runs of floyd.
corley/bruseles/gatti/sharmba
gatti/sharmba/judah/baldo
those are some punching bags.
best that was available is a total joke.
how come he announced the jmm fight the day before manny fought? how come cotto and shane managed to fight everyone at ww and floyd didn't? you're an excuse maker, that's it.
no one needs to make excuses for jmm, for shane, for cotto, for vic d, for adamek, for cunningham, for froch, for malignaggi, for bradley, for pascal, for the klits. those are real fighters, just saying what you said about floyd fighting the best available is makes you questionable.
you're playing youself for your crush on him if you really believe that floyd fought the best available at every time.
i remember stevie johnson being available., i remember margs being available, i remember spaddy and casa being available. i remember cotto being available in 08,
the worst shi t ever is agreeing to a fight at one weight and not even making the weight. at least at catchweights all parties agreed and everyone made weight.
:lol1: at some of you..
Good post TS.. Fukk the bull**** by Manny and Floyd. Fukk Arum and Team Pacquiao.
But, at the end of the day..
He beats Mosley - he's shot.
He beats Marquez - he's over the hill.
He beats Berto - he's green/never beat a top contender.
Different people will come up with different ways to discredit him.
Hopefully, before his career is over, he fights all three (plus Floyd) so nothing else can be said.
Catch 22 .. lose/lose
Not only that. They all thought that Floyd would loose against all these guys. And floyd knows what they'll say after so he has to really be careful when picking his opponents.
That is why it is funny to me when people get on Floyd fans for doing the same thing.
Aside from a few people that actually know what they were talking about that started talking about Floyd's career it was all recycled garbage parroted by people. Now it is funny to me watching the people that parroted that garbage get shit on because they have no come back because they don't even know enough about their man or who he has fought to truly make a logical argument.
I think if you got in that argument with cortdawg he could defend Floyd's career well as I am sure it would not be the first time he was challenged in such a way. A lot of people wanted a lot of those fights before they happened.
To me that is the difference people shit on Floyd but still most all of his fight's people thought were acceptable in the lead up it wasn't until after they became ****ty fights. The last person that Manny fought that people really wanted to see was Cotto, in boxing it is always what have you done for me lately.
This was always the logical outcome though, the best part was the people who didn't see it coming.
Exactly Gambler, what walt don't understand is that i'm pretty familiar with both of their careers. I have all of Floyd's career and some of manny's. i think very highly of Floyd and i think his career is stellar. But if 1's argument is that Floyd fights for money, then i'm not going to argue with them. But i will argue that he fought the best that was available at the time at any weight class.
Now pacquiao is just outrageous as of late. Walt wants to talk about holes in careers well pacquiao's is like Swiss cheese. say what u about Floyd, but atleast he made defenses and fought the man of the division in mostly all of the divisions that he has been in.
floyd ain't fighting punching bags in 4 or 5 straight fights or oscar's leftovers and fighitng everyone at a catchweight that is suitable to him or trying to stack every single advantage in his favor. floyd ain't always do what the people wanted, but he didn't pull this crap.
I don't hope for people to go down in flames... That is the difference between me and you, and why you post what you post lol...
Now who is taking what someone says and runs with it???
We both know FMJ only fights when he needs the paycheck..> No more, no less...
I don't care about FMJ personal life, he has no effect towards my life, but as a boxing fan i want him to fight..> So if that means he needs to go broke to do so, then so be it... He'll earn it all back in one fail swoop...
Game - Set - Match
Best of luck to you being a FMJ fan, maybe you'll get to see him even fight again next year... So lets hope he goes broke sooner rather than later...
~peace~I don't hope for people to go down in flames... That is the difference between me and you, and why you post what you post lol...
Well, it's far from what it used to be. PPl don't discuss boxing anymore... they attack race, religion, and sexuality. I don't care for Floyd and Manny personal business, but just don't be a hypocrite and praise one and bash the other for the same thing. These guys have been following the formula and how to be Popular and make money. Manny took the same route Floyd took. And if he wants to fight Mosley that's their business... atleast, i will get to see a fight, but when all of sudden Mosley was the reason he (Mosley) lost to Floyd and not FLoyd beating him it makes me vomit; just like when Manny was supposed to fight Marg, everyone knew Marg was a deadman walking, then all of a sudden Marg lost the fight to Mosley because he was weight drained and not himself. Why can't the people making these excuses hold themselves to some standard of integrity? I say the ppl who who make these claims and defend them are the real losers. Imagine the life they live....they must live in a mirror-less home and avoid everything with a reflection, being too afraid to look at themselves.
I don't mind any of that statement... Why are you RED, if you state things like the above???
They have the exact opposite opinion but use the exact same argument to protect their fighter. That's my point, and it's so obvious.
They're arguing with me as we speak and trying to punch holes in pac's resume to me! Lol! I made this thread to state that they both have holes-big ones but they don't even see it cuz they live for this shi t.
Look at cort. He broke down 10 or so PAC fights. Just like people have been doing Floyd fights in the couple yrs I've been on here. I could do I for sharmba, blado, zab, gatti, Oscar, Ricky, bruseles, and so forth and so on.
My problem with Floyd is the principles he fights on. Most money-least challenge. And his fans defend tha right of his to the death on here. Now that manny's doing it they're all on his ass. I also am blasting manny for doing it.
That is why it is funny to me when people get on Floyd fans for doing the same thing.
Aside from a few people that actually know what they were talking about that started talking about Floyd's career it was all recycled garbage parroted by people. Now it is funny to me watching the people that parroted that garbage get shit on because they have no come back because they don't even know enough about their man or who he has fought to truly make a logical argument.
I think if you got in that argument with cortdawg he could defend Floyd's career well as I am sure it would not be the first time he was challenged in such a way. A lot of people wanted a lot of those fights before they happened.
To me that is the difference people shit on Floyd but still most all of his fight's people thought were acceptable in the lead up it wasn't until after they became ****ty fights. The last person that Manny fought that people really wanted to see was Cotto, in boxing it is always what have you done for me lately.
This was always the logical outcome though, the best part was the people who didn't see it coming.
What you just posted is not even worth responding to lol...
Game - Set - Match
Best of luck to you being a FMJ fan, maybe you'll get to see him even fight again next year... So lets hope he goes broke sooner rather than later...
~peace~
I was with you untill the Boxing is dying part...
Boxing is not dying.. Boxing is damaged and will continuelly be damaged until your previous statements get addressed... But "Dying" no...
Well, it's far from what it used to be. PPl don't discuss boxing anymore... they attack race, religion, and sexuality. I don't care for Floyd and Manny personal business, but just don't be a hypocrite and praise one and bash the other for the same thing. These guys have been following the formula and how to be Popular and make money. Manny took the same route Floyd took. And if he wants to fight Mosley that's their business... atleast, i will get to see a fight, but when all of sudden Mosley was the reason he (Mosley) lost to Floyd and not FLoyd beating him it makes me vomit; just like when Manny was supposed to fight Marg, everyone knew Marg was a deadman walking, then all of a sudden Marg lost the fight to Mosley because he was weight drained and not himself. Why can't the people making these excuses hold themselves to some standard of integrity? I say the ppl who who make these claims and defend them are the real losers. Imagine the life they live....they must live in a mirror-less home and avoid everything with a reflection, being too afraid to look at themselves.
Floyd and PAc deserve to pick and choose their opponents at this stage in their careers. Pactards come up with the monikers...coward, ducker, or scared when it comes to Floyd not fighting any TR fighters after he left TR. Floyd said Arum had no vision for his future and bought himself out of TR.
^^^^^^^^ So if you agree the fight is pure trash whats th point of the brining up a guy who gets arrested every other day?
Just let Manny take his backlash.