Anti Pac-Mosley hate and here's why:

Kirby;9836580']You ignore me because you're defenseless. You were expecting people to thank you or to praise of your "knowledge" of the boxing business. When you saw my post, your confidence went down the drain. That's why you're ignoring me. You can't face the fact that what you posted is common sense and almost all of us know it. Also, I've seen several intelligent posters call people Pactards and Flomos. Why do you keep judging people based on small things? I can judge you for saying "BTW" and call you an idiot for not saying "By the way". You don't see me doing that now do you? You sound like an imbalanced child who thinks he knows it all. Please, next time when you post a thread, expect to be criticized, don't expect to be praised for it. KTHXBUDDYBAI I'm still wondering why somebody who isn't a "Pacquiao nuthugger" feels that they have to make that statement if they know they're not.

Do you have some sort of reading disorder? There is no justification in my posts. If we had to justify everything happening in boxing we'd be going on for a long time. I even stated I don't like the damn fight. You and Kirby stink of Troll, my ignore mode goes on. Only sensible posts get replies. *mode on* edit: btw people that use the term 'pactard' or 'flomo' are disgusting creatures with a low IQ. Nobody's trolling at all. It's simple to see that your stance is pro Pacquiao-Mosley when the fight shouldn't even be happening. For you to justify the fact that it is and to accept it falls in line with the likes of Pac's fanbase. A fan of the sport doesn't make this thread. Keep it up. edit: btw, I've never used those terms.

You people act as if you don't know the business side of boxing. - First of all, stop the asstalk about Berto at 147 and Bradley at 140. Pacquiao is a megastar, why on earth would he fight these young cats that have absolutely NO NAME FOR THEMSELVES. They can't even get a few thousand people to show up at their fights. If YOU were Pacquiao or his promoter you damn well would not make fights with these useless upcoming boxers. They're ants compared to the elite boxers that are known outside the boxing die hards. Do the words risk/reward ratio ring any bells? - Secondly, find some better alternatives. Marquez? Please people, if I was Pacquiao I wouldn't make a fight with that ungrateful bad loser. Whether he priced himself out I really don't know, but at 147 he's in for an asswhooping. WHY THE HELL would Pac move down to 140?! People, HE IS THE DRAW, stop acting naieve and stupid. There's no way Manny fokking Pacquiao is gonna move below his current weight class to fight some annoying Marquez. He already fought him twice, he had his chance. - Tarnishing legacy? Hilarious some people actually believe this. We're talking about the P4P great. His legacy is already sealed. The only thing that can enhance it....is a fight with Mayweather. That's the stone cold truth and deal with it, stop crying like a little wimp about his legacy. He already has achieved god-like status...that's not gonna disappear by fighting Mosley or having a catchweight...idiots. - The next person to say he's ducking Martinez needs to seriously evaluate their sanity. So get it through your thick skulls. There is nothing on offer at Welterweight. Mosley wants to fight....Mosley will generate the most money. For YOU this fight might not be marketeable, but that's what you said about the Margarito fight as well, look what happened. Boxingscene.com is NOT the real world. I kinda got a deja vu reading all those silly reactions.....EVERYONE said this about the Bhop/Pascal fight as well....that the old fart would get beaten down hard.....look what happened. I'm not guaranteeing Mosley Pac will be great, but I sure as hell understand why the fight's being made. There's a big difference between not wanting a fight to be made and not understanding why it's made. You people don't seem to know the difference, because apparently it's a disgrace to boxing....but there's really not much else to be done atm. For the record, I don't like the fight. I love SSM and I think this is too dangerous to be getting into at his age. But the reactions here are just ridiculous, a sad state of affairs. i agree with everything you said. That bit about pac tarnishing his legacy is a joke. How can anyone with a career pac has had tarnish his legacy. What ever he does from now on are just extra toppings to of his great career. People really seem to forget that this guy was the flyweight champ of the world at one stage. Fans are jokes man. But history will look good on pacquiao so forget the haters.

You and Kirby stink of Troll, my ignore mode goes on. Only sensible posts get replies. *mode on* edit: btw people that use the term 'pactard' or 'flomo' are disgusting creatures with a low IQ. You ignore me because you're defenseless. You were expecting people to thank you or to praise of your "knowledge" of the boxing business. When you saw my post, your confidence went down the drain. That's why you're ignoring me. You can't face the fact that what you posted is common sense and almost all of us know it. Also, I've seen several intelligent posters call people Pactards and Flomos. Why do you keep judging people based on small things? I can judge you for saying "BTW" and call you an idiot for not saying "By the way". You don't see me doing that now do you? You sound like an imbalanced child who thinks he knows it all. Please, next time when you post a thread, expect to be criticized, don't expect to be praised for it. KTHXBUDDYBAI

Couldn't care less. Clearly you do since you professed your "non Pac huggingness" for the thread... well, you've done nothing but justify this decision and the fact you wrote an essay to start the thread shows that you ride Pacquiao... Like I said before, keep it up. Do you have some sort of reading disorder? There is no justification in my posts. If we had to justify everything happening in boxing we'd be going on for a long time. I even stated I don't like the damn fight. You and Kirby stink of Troll, my ignore mode goes on. Only sensible posts get replies. *mode on* edit: btw people that use the term 'pactard' or 'flomo' are disgusting creatures with a low IQ.

Kirby;9836413']You sound like a Pactard to me, or just a really dumb fan. I can't take you seriously pal. Exactly. No sense in debating with somebody bias.

U really think I give a rat's ass about someone in the red making useless 1 sentence posts about nothing? Go play with yourself. You sound like a Pactard to me, or just a really dumb fan. So you don't care what he says because he has Red K? Lol. Then you tell him to go play with himself when I'm pretty sure you play with yourself all the time playboy. I can't take you seriously pal.

Unbiased....objectively speaking.....yes the fight ought to be at 140. But think about it...with his current status and weight class. Do you think....realistically speaking Pac's gonna bounce down to 140 again? if pac wanted to he could, so yes it is realistic.

You people act as if you don't know the business side of boxing. - First of all, stop the asstalk about Berto at 147 and Bradley at 140. Pacquiao is a megastar, why on earth would he fight these young cats that have absolutely NO NAME FOR THEMSELVES. They can't even get a few thousand people to show up at their fights. If YOU were Pacquiao or his promoter you damn well would not make fights with these useless upcoming boxers. They're ants compared to the elite boxers that are known outside the boxing die hards. Do the words risk/reward ratio ring any bells? - Secondly, find some better alternatives. Marquez? Please people, if I was Pacquiao I wouldn't make a fight with that ungrateful bad loser. Whether he priced himself out I really don't know, but at 147 he's in for an asswhooping. WHY THE HELL would Pac move down to 140?! People, HE IS THE DRAW, stop acting naieve and stupid. There's no way Manny fokking Pacquiao is gonna move below his current weight class to fight some annoying Marquez. He already fought him twice, he had his chance. - Tarnishing legacy? Hilarious some people actually believe this. We're talking about the P4P great. His legacy is already sealed. The only thing that can enhance it....is a fight with Mayweather. That's the stone cold truth and deal with it, stop crying like a little wimp about his legacy. He already has achieved god-like status...that's not gonna disappear by fighting Mosley or having a catchweight...idiots. - The next person to say he's ducking Martinez needs to seriously evaluate their sanity. So get it through your thick skulls. There is nothing on offer at Welterweight. Mosley wants to fight....Mosley will generate the most money. For YOU this fight might not be marketeable, but that's what you said about the Margarito fight as well, look what happened. Boxingscene.com is NOT the real world. I kinda got a deja vu reading all those silly reactions.....EVERYONE said this about the Bhop/Pascal fight as well....that the old fart would get beaten down hard.....look what happened. I'm not guaranteeing Mosley Pac will be great, but I sure as hell understand why the fight's being made. There's a big difference between not wanting a fight to be made and not understanding why it's made. You people don't seem to know the difference, because apparently it's a disgrace to boxing....but there's really not much else to be done atm. For the record, I don't like the fight. I love SSM and I think this is too dangerous to be getting into at his age. But the reactions here are just ridiculous, a sad state of affairs. i agree with every point you stated but what can you do, most of the posters here are posers, they pretend to know more about boxing but all they can come up with is what was already written somewhere that they have read and again pretend they have "researched" they pretend and act they are big fella's on boxing but in reality they are just kids who are afraid to come out of their rooms and out of their houses to explore because really they are those types that are picked on by neighborhood bullies. they vent their frustrations on forums like this acting tough and knowledgeable, they are the types who at the drop of a pin, challenges for debates, but if you noticed they always run on circles cannot even know how to go from point a to b when you debate them. they watch boxing on you tube and picked on the comments therein, read on articles and make what they read as their own beliefs. you can always spot them easy, always calling themselves "real boxing fan", i dont know what the hell that means but they are proud calling themselves that as if they have invented boxing and that without them it will cease to exist.

U really think I give a rat's ass about someone in the red making useless 1 sentence posts about nothing? Go play with yourself. Couldn't care less. Clearly you do since you professed your "non Pac huggingness" for the thread... well, you've done nothing but justify this decision and the fact you wrote an essay to start the thread shows that you ride Pacquiao... Like I said before, keep it up.

For the simple fact that you started this one. Keep it up. U really think I give a rat's ass about someone in the red making useless 1 sentence posts about nothing? Go play with yourself.

I'm just not seeing the argument you make when there's JMM out there. MOre than a few diehard fans want to see that fight at 140. EVERYONE who knows boxing at all should and most do want that fight at 140. We all saw how JMM looked over 140 in that fight with floyd (who I agree is ducking pac like a felon ducking speed traps). JMM has never proven effective above 135 so they should meet in the middle. Fighting Shane off his last 2 performances DEFINTIELY hurts pac's legacy. I mean even Bradley would give pac's detractors a lot less to complain about. The fight isn't even interesting considering Shane only throws one punch at a time and was smoked by floyd for 11 or 12 rounds. I'll say it again. THere's one lost PPV sale right here. Unbiased....objectively speaking.....yes the fight ought to be at 140. But think about it...with his current status and weight class. Do you think....realistically speaking Pac's gonna bounce down to 140 again?

Why don't you read some other threads I've started dumbass before judging. For the simple fact that you started this one. Keep it up.

Yeah, right. Why don't you read some other threads I've started dumbass before judging.

Bob's in his 70s and acts like he's 12 years old. Are the two ages that much different?

Look people, chill the **** out and realize I'm not some Pacquiao nuthugger. Yeah, right.

First of all you assume I'm one of those mindless Pacman fans that just hates on Mayweather. I only hate on Mayweather for 1 thing and that's not getting the mega fight done. I love him as a boxer, and I loved PBF. The arrogant Money personality got to me a little though. So don't act like you know my point of view. Clottey was an in-house fight as an alternative to May-Pac not being made. It obviously wasn't a genius idea cos the PPV didn't do THAT good. It was decent, not more than that. Nevertheless, all the $$$ stayed within Top Rank. Look people, chill the **** out and realize I'm not some Pacquiao nuthugger. I don't trust Arum either. But it's not like he's boxing's only scumbag. I just think this outrage over the Mosley fight is ridiculous. It's not like anyone didnt see it coming, and for good reason as I explained before. A lot of the outrage has to do with Arum ciontinually ripping off the fans. Clottey was ok, margs was very borderline, and Shane is just plain despicable as far as what Bob is doing to the fans by lining his own pocketbook and the childish beef he has wioth Golden BOy. Bob's in his 70s and acts like he's 12 years old.

If I ever ducked a response to you, sorry cos you actually formulate proper replies unlike that retard here in this thread. I dont care about 'slick black' fighters cos I don't think in terms of race. Manny's legacy as the best P4P fighter of the modern era is pretty sealed in my opinion. How his opponents are picked lately....yeah it bothers people. I can understand that....but at the end of the day he's still that same fighter. Relatively speaking, the people that **** on his fights are only a handful. The PPV numbers speak for themselves. The choices are pretty bleak, he still has a few fights coming so maybe he will fight JMM. But it won't be happening at 140, mark my words. He's not gonna move down guys, why would he? To please those few die hard fans that wanna see JMM-Pac 3 under the most similar possible conditions of the first two fights? Not realistic. Same with Bradley/Alexander....not happening. Pac's not gonna move down for these young cats guys. No way. Regarding the money....Berto is undefeated and champion, but there are many champions in boxing no one has heard of in the mainstream. I don't even believe Berto actually deserves this fight with what he's been doing lately. (you can make a case for Shane as well, I'll give you that) Not that I don't wanna see it....but I can fully understand Team Pac and Arum not making that fight. And yeah...personally I do think there's a money difference. Ideally...yes Pac fighting a slick boxer puncher is what we all want. But the best doesn't wanna fight him atm, so we get something with a bitter aftertaste. I agree the most with the JMM/Legacy argument. Very little though, but yes another trilogy in the mix will add some flavour. I'm just not seeing the argument you make when there's JMM out there. MOre than a few diehard fans want to see that fight at 140. EVERYONE who knows boxing at all should and most do want that fight at 140. We all saw how JMM looked over 140 in that fight with floyd (who I agree is ducking pac like a felon ducking speed traps). JMM has never proven effective above 135 so they should meet in the middle. Fighting Shane off his last 2 performances DEFINTIELY hurts pac's legacy. I mean even Bradley would give pac's detractors a lot less to complain about. The fight isn't even interesting considering Shane only throws one punch at a time and was smoked by floyd for 11 or 12 rounds. I'll say it again. THere's one lost PPV sale right here.

Yet you call Floyd a lil cunt? LMAO! If you weren't such a hypocrite I'd actually agree that you made good points. However, if this was Mayweather fighting MOsley after coming off an ASS WHOOPIN and a DRAW, Mayweather would not be affored these excuses by you or the other haters. Get off Pac's pee pee for a second and realize he fought JOSHUA CLOTTEY who has less of a fan base than ANDRE BERTO. Explain that one. Explain how CLOTTEY made perfect BUSINESS SENSE. I'll be waiting.... First of all you assume I'm one of those mindless Pacman fans that just hates on Mayweather. I only hate on Mayweather for 1 thing and that's not getting the mega fight done. I love him as a boxer, and I loved PBF. The arrogant Money personality got to me a little though. So don't act like you know my point of view. Clottey was an in-house fight as an alternative to May-Pac not being made. It obviously wasn't a genius idea cos the PPV didn't do THAT good. It was decent, not more than that. Nevertheless, all the $$$ stayed within Top Rank. Look people, chill the **** out and realize I'm not some Pacquiao nuthugger. I don't trust Arum either. But it's not like he's boxing's only scumbag. I just think this outrage over the Mosley fight is ridiculous. It's not like anyone didnt see it coming, and for good reason as I explained before.

“I read them saying Mosley was huffing and puffing for air in the fourth or fifth round,” Arum told Marley. “To me, that is the real tipoff for an aging fighter. Even Big George Foreman did that in his 40s, but he always had that big, big punch, like in the (Michael) Moorer fight. What I’ve read is not very supportive to make any Mosley-Pacquiao bout. Look, he’s going to be 40 and he’s in the lighter weights, where speed is so important. He’s on a show with guys … old enough to be his son. “I guess Shane needs the money due to his (divorce). I’ve always considered Shane to be a nice guy but this is what happens to fighters when they age. It’s like (Bernard) Hopkins: He still knows how to fight, but who wants to pay to see him now? His fights are not very scintillating. What you see with Hopkins, we’re beginning to see with Mosley.” - BOB ARUM After the Sergio Mora fight. http://cdn1.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/50600/box_g_arum_300_large.jpg