Opponent not coming off a loss near his prime and not at a catchweight. someone that was a good challenge not a Diaz. A fighter coming in hot on a string of wins?
it doesnt matter if Cotto weight 146lbs against Marg....or Marg fought at WW many times....The issue is that THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED to come in at a weight of their liking up to the max limit of their division. As for Floyd....make a thread about him and we can debate in there.
You're right, it doesn't matter, because 1 fvcking pound doesn't matter, period. FYI, Cotto agreed to it without any dispute because he explicitly said that he weighs in at 145lbs most of the time, so how the fvck were they not allowed if the stipulation applies for both equally and both agreed to it.
Opponent not coming off a loss near his prime and not at a catchweight. someone that was a good challenge not a Diaz. A fighter coming in hot on a string of wins?
To all the flomos out there and you. Give me the list of your top 10 140 and 147 fighters Pac should fight or fought. Except the coward Floyd currently hiding, who has a chance of beating Pac after how he ko'ed Hatton in two, gave the worst beating to Cotto and Margarito. None! the fact that some of these fighter has a winning stakes or undefeated and young. The result will be the same.
I gave him credit for Cotto more than Clottey. Can we admit Cotto was not the same after Margarito. Clottey gasses. All these fighters were picked for a reason. When people have Cotto beating Pac its because they want PAC to lose so they choose with emotion not their head. Im not saying PAC isnt good cause he is he just hasnt challenged himself with a threat without some kind of catchweight to give him the edge. I dont even know what weight class he is in. I really dont..
enlighten me , which of the WWs should he have fought?
Yeah, agree to it or no fight! He is not the only one telling "half truths".
The same guys that knock FMJ fighting JMM over the agreed catchweight after JMM agreed to sign the new contract (doesn't matter when it was), are the same people giving Pac a pass. All the fighters(JMM, Cotto, Margarito) are all pushed into a corner and if they don't accept, no chance at glory and more importantly...NO PAYDAY!
fukking clown
JMM is a fetherweight while Floyd is a welterweight for 5 years
Pac is a featherweight while Cotto, Marg & Clottey were all welters
Not allowed? he fuking agreed to it LOL way to tell a half truth my friend!!
Yeah, agree to it or no fight! He is not the only one telling "half truths".
The same guys that knock FMJ fighting JMM over the agreed catchweight after JMM agreed to sign the new contract (doesn't matter when it was), are the same people giving Pac a pass. All the fighters(JMM, Cotto, Margarito) are all pushed into a corner and if they don't accept, no chance at glory and more importantly...NO PAYDAY!
it doesnt matter if Cotto weight 146lbs against Marg....or Marg fought at WW many times....The issue is that THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED to come in at a weight of their liking up to the max limit of their division. As for Floyd....make a thread about him and we can debate in there.
Not allowed? he fuking agreed to it LOL way to tell a half truth my friend!!
First of all, DLH called out Pac and came up with the catch weight for their fight. Against Cotto, Cotto was 145lbs, down from 146lbs vs Marg and most of his other fights, even Cotto himself admitted that 145lbs was his normal weight during weigh ins. Marg has fought at 147lbs many times way before Manny, so going down to 150lbs shouldn't have been a problem and he wasn't "weight drained", considering that at fight night he was 165lbs vs Manny at 148lbs. Furthermore, as i have posted in my last post, Floyd had done the same thing.
it doesnt matter if Cotto weight 146lbs against Marg....or Marg fought at WW many times....The issue is that THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED to come in at a weight of their liking up to the max limit of their division. As for Floyd....make a thread about him and we can debate in there.
This wasnt meant to be about Floyd. Ive never even defended Floyd. This about PAC fighting a fighter thats actually threat and not having to do a catchweight...
Regardless who it is about, my point is that if you're going to question Pac, then you better question most other boxers including and especially Floyd. So why just pick on Pac. And do you honestly think that Hatton, Cotto, Marg, and DLH weren't a threat, it wasn't that long ago when these fighters weren't even considered in the same conversation with Manny due to their size advantage. Be real and cut the fvcking bvllsh1t if you seriously think that these fighters weren't a threat, Cotto at 145lbs is just as formidable at 146lbs. THere's a real good reason why Floyd ducked Cotto and Margarito.
Boxing is dead. That's why he has nobody left to fight. As someone said, you want him to to fight B-level fighters?
There's literally no other fight left in this sport except for PBF-PAC that would gain any interest from casual fans.
instead of offering catchweights, he could have really fukked these fools up by making them come to 140 for that payday
something to think about
He does not even want to fight Marquez at 140.
Why doesnt he fight Martinez for the 154 belt? Wait Sergio is too big or too big of a threat. How are you gonna fight Margo for the belt but then Sergio steps up nah im good. Nobody on Pacs team had an issue fighting Margorito but Sergio steps up then what? Sergio agreed to come to 154. Wait Mosely is the best choice right now cause he riding a hot streak of a one sided loss and draw to Mora...Hes bound to bring fans and Money. If he wants an easy fight he can fight JMM at 147 cause Pac is too big for 140. Nevermind that his strength and conditioning coach said he could still make 140. JMM will bring in more fans than Mosley will. PAC and Mayweather should go on vacation together..Fighters submit at the end because they want the cash..
Im not arguing against your opinion on the mosely fight i agree with you and i also agree with your sentiments about JMM. But Martinez cannot make the weight! He said it himself and he hasn't been a jr middle for 2 fuking years. You have to accept that Manny was eventually gonna hit a wall as to how far up he could go up in weight classes. The man injests 7 times the required calories a full grown adault needs to maintain their body weight in order to get up to 144 pounds. Isn't it obvious he can't fight martinez who is the Middleweight champion of the world?
And who exactly forced those fighters to fight at a catchweight? They could of said no and notice that none of them except for that homosexual ODLH have used weight as an excuse. Only the pac haters have made all the excuses!
Why doesnt he fight Martinez for the 154 belt? Wait Sergio is too big or too big of a threat. How are you gonna fight Margo for the belt but then Sergio steps up nah im good. Nobody on Pacs team had an issue fighting Margorito but Sergio steps up then what? Sergio agreed to come to 154. Wait Mosely is the best choice right now cause he riding a hot streak of a one sided loss and draw to Mora...Hes bound to bring fans and Money. If he wants an easy fight he can fight JMM at 147 cause Pac is too big for 140. Nevermind that his strength and conditioning coach said he could still make 140. JMM will bring in more fans than Mosley will. PAC and Mayweather should go on vacation together..Fighters submit at the end because they want the cash..
And who exactly forced those fighters to fight at a catchweight? They could of said no and notice that none of them except for that homosexual ODLH have used weight as an excuse. Only the pac haters have made all the excuses!
Mayweather and Pacman = paydays....they can ask an opponent to fight with one arm tied behind their backs and they would agree just for the big money involved. It doesn't make it right though.
Yea thats what im looking for a tag team..If your gonna move up in weight then go all the way and dont use catchweights especially when its for a belt. I didnt realize people would get so emotional ove a fighter. You guys act like this is yalls husband.
And who exactly forced those fighters to fight at a catchweight? They could of said no and notice that none of them except for that homosexual ODLH have used weight as an excuse. Only the pac haters have made all the excuses!
Oh I see fight guys that would have outweighted him by 20 pounds instead of 10-15 pounds on fight night.
Whats next "oh everyone he fights from now on gets to have a sword".
What other disadvantages would you like Pac to have? Perhaps he can have a handicap match!!!
Margarito and Cotto can Team up against him as a tag team!!!
Yea thats what im looking for a tag team..If your gonna move up in weight then go all the way and dont use catchweights especially when its for a belt. I didnt realize people would get so emotional ove a fighter. You guys act like this is yalls husband.
First of all, DLH called out Pac and came up with the catch weight for their fight. Against Cotto, Cotto was 145lbs, down from 146lbs vs Marg and most of his other fights, even Cotto himself admitted that 145lbs was his normal weight during weigh ins. Marg has fought at 147lbs many times way before Manny, so going down to 150lbs shouldn't have been a problem and he wasn't "weight drained", considering that at fight night he was 165lbs vs Manny at 148lbs. Furthermore, as i have posted in my last post, Floyd has done the same thing.
This wasnt meant to be about Floyd. Ive never even defended Floyd. This about PAC fighting a fighter thats actually threat and not having to do a catchweight...
He could have fought everyone he fought at their weight. Not at a catchweight. Also to say he was fighting fighters much bigger I think thats awesome. Go up to the weight class they are currently in not drain them. Nobody was fighting to beat pac they were fighting for the pay day. I understand its impossible to catch two fighters in their prime but JMM,Soto,Cotto with no catchweight to many to list would have been good fights. Everything has been a walk in the park for PAC since ODLH.
First of all, DLH called out Pac and came up with the catch weight for their fight. Against Cotto, Cotto was 145lbs, down from 146lbs vs Marg and most of his other fights, even Cotto himself admitted that 145lbs was his normal weight during weigh ins. Marg has fought at 147lbs many times way before Manny, so going down to 150lbs shouldn't have been a problem and he wasn't "weight drained", considering that at fight night he was 165lbs vs Manny at 148lbs. Furthermore, as i have posted in my last post, Floyd had done the same thing.