May > Mosley - Not because Shane is old, but because he couldn't deal with May's speed and counterpunching. Just FYI, I am a huge Mosley fan and I knew May would win unless Shane could land something big. Well...we know how that went.
Pac > Cotto - Not because Cotto is shot, but because Cotto can't handle pressure. I really thought Cotto would be able to control Pac with the jab, but...
Mosley = Mora - Because styles make fights and Mora is a big fighter. Also he is a veteran of the sport. Mosley is not shot...just not crafty enough to handle every style thrown at him.
So...
Pac vs Mosley - Is a legit fight, a good fight! Yes Pac has fast hands, BUT he isn't as skilled of a counterpuncher as May AND he isn't big enough to do a lot of damage against Mosley. If Mosley can clinch here and there and let his hands go this will be an interesting fight.
So in conclusion, Mosley is not shot and you all will see first hand if this fight does happen....:booty::booty::booty:
I think it could be an interesting fight, I don't really like Mosley chances as he would have to really do a lot to win but I think he can be a lot more competitive than a lot of people think in the first half of the fight.
Wouldn't surprise me if Manny whooped him though.
I also wouldn't be surprised if Pac won, but Mosley can def bring a fight. I can see this being and all out war.
I never said Mosley was on EPO at the Margarito fight. I account Mosley's win to Margarito's poor training camp and lack of focus because he was just caught. Margarito didn't look anything like his previous fights so you're making that up to your advantage. If look pass that victory, Shane has shown nothing impressive. He was a great name back in the day and many of his wins are questionable wins just like Margarito's.
This fight has no potential unless Pacquiao takes the fight as a joke and even then Pacquiao not being 100% is too fast for Mosley.
Shane has always been a fast explosive fighter that doesn't do to good against boxers. Margy was a come forward brawler...and Shane would destroy him 10 out of 10 times. Can Pac beat Mosley? Of course, but he better come in with a gameplan, and not just try to trade with him because that is what Shane likes.
I'm not buying the threadstarter's explanation but I'm buying the PPV if that's what you mean. Just wanna clarify things.
Chups, I'm not trying to sell the fight. I really couldn't care less if Pac fought Berto or whomever else...I just want to make it clear that Mosley is still a threat.
Mosley wasn't on EPO during the Margy fight, AND Marg looked the same as ever that night against Shane. I mean he might have been shook cause they also caught him that night with dem bricks. So I guess you could have given Mosley the mental edge that night, but that's all Margy fault for being a dirty cheat.
I never said Mosley was on EPO at the Margarito fight. I account Mosley's win to Margarito's poor training camp and lack of focus because he was just caught. Margarito didn't look anything like his previous fights so you're making that up to your advantage. If look pass that victory, Shane has shown nothing impressive. He was a great name back in the day and many of his wins are questionable wins just like Margarito's.
This fight has no potential unless Pacquiao takes the fight as a joke and even then Pacquiao not being 100% is too fast for Mosley.
I think it could be an interesting fight, I don't really like Mosley chances as he would have to really do a lot to win but I think he can be a lot more competitive than a lot of people think in the first half of the fight.
Wouldn't surprise me if Manny whooped him though.
pac-berto is more viable
Berto is young and in his prime, but there is just one thing about him...
HE DOESN'T DESERVE A PAYCHECK. HE HASN'T FOUGHT ANYONE WITH A NAME!
bcuz shane stopped trying. he took 0 chances after he landed the right.
he has no stamina left, on top of his poor performance against the latin fake.
That's because he couldn't find a way to stop May's quick counters from landing. It wasn't a stamina issue it was a mental issue.
I mean I don't know how anyone could think Shane would do better than what he did that night. His only chance was to catch May with something big, which he did, but it just wasn't enough. May is a smart fighter...I have him beating Pac if they fight. With that said, why couldn't Mosley look that bad?...I mean he was fighting the best.
bcuz shane stopped trying. he took 0 chances after he landed the right.
he has no stamina left, on top of his poor performance against the latin fake.
Everybody knows I'm a pacfan but I ain't buying it either.
Look, I know Mosley beats BERTO but I still want Pac to fight BERTO!! No reason or logic can explain it.
Sure there is,Berto is a young,undefeated welterweight champ who got a 1 round ko in his last fight!!He may not really be that great but it will kill some of the negative impact that Pacman is receiving for beating old men,or fighters coming off bad beatings & there won't be a need for 1 of Pacman's famous catchweights!!Plus it'll be unifying 147!!
I agree that team Pac seem to be beating everyone on the scale, but I also think that it's the other camps fault for taking the fight. No excuses! As for team Pac taking this fight after Mosley's less than steller performances...well that might be their downfall. I don't think Mosley is going to come out as shot as they believe. He will def bang with Pac, and Pac has a huge head for a target.
I want & hope that Mosley brings the same attitude he did against Margarito too!!The only faint glimmer of hope that I have for him in this fight is the fact that he can take blows from jr middleweights & Pacman surely can be hit!!Because I'm willing to hope that if he lands anything close to those 2 right hands that he landed on Floyd,it's a wrap!!
Thanks for clearing that up,D!!Too bad Pacman didn't want any part of Mosley at 142 when he came off that huge win against.....that's right Margarito,but all of a sudden after Mosley has a couple extra years & 2 less than stellar performances he's now ok to fight!!I like Mosley & I appreciate him getting himself a solid payday,but team Pacman are a bunch of hypocrites & cherrypickers just like everyone's favorite badguy!!
I agree that team Pac seem to be beating everyone on the scale, but I also think that it's the other camps fault for taking the fight. No excuses! As for team Pac taking this fight after Mosley's less than steller performances...well that might be their downfall. I don't think Mosley is going to come out as shot as they believe. He will def bang with Pac, and Pac has a huge head for a target.
What's so funny about Margarito not being focused and poorly trained? Are you saying it's false?
You have to understand that the last time Mosley was truly dominant, he was on EPO. This fight should only be attractive to the casual fans who have heard Mosley was an all time great once upon a time and only know Pacquiao because of his great popularity.
Mosley wasn't on EPO during the Margy fight, AND Marg looked the same as ever that night against Shane. I mean he might have been shook cause they also caught him that night with dem bricks. So I guess you could have given Mosley the mental edge that night, but that's all Margy fault for being a dirty cheat.
Thanks for clearing that up,D!!Too bad Pacman didn't want any part of Mosley at 142 when he came off that huge win against.....that's right Margarito,but all of a sudden after Mosley has a couple extra years & 2 less than stellar performances he's now ok to fight!!I like Mosley & I appreciate him getting himself a solid payday,but team Pacman are a bunch of hypocrites & cherrypickers just like everyone's favorite badguy!!
LOL at a poorly prepared and not focused Margy. As for Mosley not looking good against opponents that looked like cruiserweights on fight night...well I guess I can understand that.
What's so funny about Margarito not being focused and poorly trained? Are you saying it's false?
You have to understand that the last time Mosley was truly dominant, he was on EPO. This fight should only be attractive to the casual fans who have heard Mosley was an all time great once upon a time and only know Pacquiao because of his great popularity.
mosley should fight berto. winner should get pac.
jmm should fight khan or winner of bradley/alexander. winner gets pac.
but pac needs a big name to fight in the spring and mosley is the biggest name among those guys so....
For once I think I can agree with everything you said...
All of these good-fight scenarios would have been true if Mosley was not way over the hill. Mosley looked terrific against a poorly prepared and not focused Margarito and possibly being handicaped with his lack of "help" on his gloves. Before that he fought a horrible fight against Mayorga and we know before that he looked good while being on EPO. I don't think anyone can sell the idea that it's going to be a good competitive fight.
LOL at a poorly prepared and not focused Margy. As for Mosley not looking good against opponents that looked like cruiserweights on fight night...well I guess I can understand that.
mosley should fight berto. winner should get pac.
jmm should fight khan or winner of bradley/alexander. winner gets pac.
but pac needs a big name to fight in the spring and mosley is the biggest name among those guys so....
All of these good-fight scenarios would have been true if Mosley was not way over the hill. Mosley looked terrific against a poorly prepared and not focused Margarito and possibly being handicaped with his lack of "help" on his gloves. Before that he fought a horrible fight against Mayorga and we know before that he looked good while being on EPO. I don't think anyone can sell the idea that it's going to be a good competitive fight.