Don't buy into what Robert Garcia says about Victor Ortiz...Most of it is BS!!!

"Brandon had no idea that Freddie Roach had Parkinsons" - Robert Garcia that just shows how much Garcia lies out his ass...and how low they go about making jokes on other people...how did Brandon know roach had 13 losses but didn't know about his parkinson's which is crucial amd obvious...these Oxnard guys are a joke!!!

damn victor ortiz had a dude goto rios' crib with the hammer..... these dudes got a serious beef going. idk who is telling the truth though about all the other crap. Thats the part that sounded hard to believe. I remember when Rios was saying all this in a radio show, and he sounded like he was lying. Still an interesting story and Garcia did offer to take a lie detector test, so who knows.

I don't believe Garcia on some parts...wasn't it Vargas who also said that he had beef with ODLH for laughing at him when he fell on the snow in big bear? Total BS...Plus you have to question why Danny Garcia departed from his family and stuck with Ortiz? From what I know Robert Garcia along with Rios and others at the gym would verbally abuse Ortiz...and for him to call Ortiz a quitter in amature fights is dumb because Ortiz accomplished a lot more than Rios did in the Ams...so he better explain why Rios did so sh1tty in the ams as well...Rios called Ortiz' life story BS but there's a documentary out there where Rios is on Ortiz' nuts about how hard he had his life along with Garcia...I know for a fact that Ortiz wanted to move out of Oxnard because it was not a good place and he wanted better living conditions...he took a job at fedex and went to school for a bit at ventura college...Robert knows his brother left because he was tired of all the BS and the childish games these fools were playing at the Oxnard gym...and for Ortiz wanting a trainer that would focus more on him and to help him accomplish goals in boxing shows that Ortiz cares and has love for the sport...that's why he wanted Grandpa Garcia to train him right? GTFO Robert... Time to change your sig.

I think you need too change your sig TS,ortiz certainly isnt the man at 140

Ortiz doesnt seem like he has goons on deck, I dont know.

Garcia reminds me of Whitney Houston: " I aint never took no crack, they aint no receipts!" Lie detectors don't mean a damn thing. They are unreliable which is why they are inadmissible in court. I don't know Garci from a hole in the wall but from what I have seen on 24/7 and from what SoCal locals post he is a dude that has surrounded himself with knuckleheads who are dragging him down with them. Then again maybe those knuckleheads are feeding off Garcia.... just saying.

Rios is trash

Can someone fill me in on what Garcia said?

Garcia's story was kinda over the top IMO. like the pointing of the gun to brandon. I mean LOL come on the boxing community is very small i'm pretty sure both of their camps bump into each other in events but you never see any **** popping off. If some guy I know threatened my friend's life with a gun to his face LOL we'd be looking for his ass for sure.

most people made up there minds on the issue even tho nobody knows really what happened. easy to kick a guy when his down I guess Considering how long Victor has been saying the stuff about them, it's funny how they pick NOW to have this interview.

Green K Sounds Garcia and company are trying to use Victors own kindness as a weakness....Victor sounds like a good kid and I think he's more sincere than anybody over at Garcia's gym...

Do you guys think that if Ortiz fights Rios the fighter in Ortiz will show up because of all the bad blood? If it does, should be one helluva fight! :boxing:

Do you guys think that if Ortiz fights Rios the fighter in Ortiz will show up because of all the bad blood?

Rios comes across as a straight-up jerk. Maybe seeing Margarito beat down right in front of his eyes had a positive effect on him and his attitude. If you **** with people you might have to back it up. I wouldn't let Garcia train my dog. Whoop him good, Victor.

All I gotta say is that even if Ortiz did hire someone to gun down Rios then Rios should be ashamed that a surfer embarased his street cred lol I mean come on ppl the Garcias and Vargas have also lied about the de la hoya incident just to get a good pay day...these fools lie out their ass big time! There's a reason why they ride bob arum to the fullest...scum bags and liars recognize other scum bags and liars...Ortiz signed with GBP because he said it felt like an honest deal...and when he did that he took his career more seriously and got himself a full time trainer in Danny Garcia...look at Rios' work ethic compared to Ortiz' you can tell that Robert Garcia doesn't do much work with him when he has other fighters like margs and donair...they're just mad because Ortiz left the homeboys...

Garcia and his clan got kicked out of La Colonia Gym for a reason...

I don't believe Garcia on some parts...wasn't it Vargas who also said that he had beef with ODLH for laughing at him when he fell on the snow in big bear? Total BS...Plus you have to question why Danny Garcia departed from his family and stuck with Ortiz? From what I know Robert Garcia along with Rios and others at the gym would verbally abuse Ortiz...and for him to call Ortiz a quitter in amature fights is dumb because Ortiz accomplished a lot more than Rios did in the Ams...so he better explain why Rios did so sh1tty in the ams as well...Rios called Ortiz' life story BS but there's a documentary out there where Rios is on Ortiz' nuts about how hard he had his life along with Garcia...I know for a fact that Ortiz wanted to move out of Oxnard because it was not a good place and he wanted better living conditions...he took a job at fedex and went to school for a bit at ventura college...Robert knows his brother left because he was tired of all the BS and the childish games these fools were playing at the Oxnard gym...and for Ortiz wanting a trainer that would focus more on him and to help him accomplish goals in boxing shows that Ortiz cares and has love for the sport...that's why he wanted Grandpa Garcia to train him right? GTFO Robert... I don't think Robert tried to down Vic in his interview... I think he stated "facts" He even said that Vic was very self motivated and loved to work... Now if all these police reports exist and all this stuff is on record, then what... The guy even offered to take a lie detector test... Vic Ortiz is about Vic Ortiz man and thats fine just stop playing the Victim on account of your past man thats my thing... Did Garcia probably ride him hard in the gym, DAMN RIGHT! Its an F'in gym for God sakes not a church... What do you think goes on in the gym, a bunch of hugging and kissing, HELL NO... The gym is where the players are separated from the pretenders and where boys are turned into men...

I don't believe Garcia on some parts...wasn't it Vargas who also said that he had beef with ODLH for laughing at him when he fell on the snow in big bear? Total BS...Plus you have to question why Danny Garcia departed from his family and stuck with Ortiz? From what I know Robert Garcia along with Rios and others at the gym would verbally abuse Ortiz...and for him to call Ortiz a quitter in amature fights is dumb because Ortiz accomplished a lot more than Rios did in the Ams...so he better explain why Rios did so sh1tty in the ams as well...Rios called Ortiz' life story BS but there's a documentary out there where Rios is on Ortiz' nuts about how hard he had his life along with Garcia...I know for a fact that Ortiz wanted to move out of Oxnard because it was not a good place and he wanted better living conditions...he took a job at fedex and went to school for a bit at ventura college...Robert knows his brother left because he was tired of all the BS and the childish games these fools were playing at the Oxnard gym...and for Ortiz wanting a trainer that would focus more on him and to help him accomplish goals in boxing shows that Ortiz cares and has love for the sport...that's why he wanted Grandpa Garcia to train him right? GTFO Robert...that gym is a cess pool and should be shut down....

Ortiz is a nice guy, I don't belive this whacked out story, of Ortiz trying to harm Brandon Rios lol

I don't believe Garcia on some parts...wasn't it Vargas who also said that he had beef with ODLH for laughing at him when he fell on the snow in big bear? Total BS...Plus you have to question why Danny Garcia departed from his family and stuck with Ortiz? From what I know Robert Garcia along with Rios and others at the gym would verbally abuse Ortiz...and for him to call Ortiz a quitter in amature fights is dumb because Ortiz accomplished a lot more than Rios did in the Ams...so he better explain why Rios did so sh1tty in the ams as well...Rios called Ortiz' life story BS but there's a documentary out there where Rios is on Ortiz' nuts about how hard he had his life along with Garcia...I know for a fact that Ortiz wanted to move out of Oxnard because it was not a good place and he wanted better living conditions...he took a job at fedex and went to school for a bit at ventura college...Robert knows his brother left because he was tired of all the BS and the childish games these fools were playing at the Oxnard gym...and for Ortiz wanting a trainer that would focus more on him and to help him accomplish goals in boxing shows that Ortiz cares and has love for the sport...that's why he wanted Grandpa Garcia to train him right? GTFO Robert... its pretty well known that ortiz would quit in the gym when the going got tough. just look at his reaction after the maidana loss, he was talking about retirement.